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Old 03-16-2015, 05:53 PM
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In England and the United States, the police were invented within the space of just a few decades—roughly from 1825 to 1855.
The new institution was not a response to an increase in crime, and it really didn’t lead to new methods for dealing with crime. The most common way for authorities to solve a crime, before and since the invention of police, has been for someone to tell them who did it.

Besides, crime has to do with the acts of individuals, and the ruling elites who invented the police were responding to challenges posed by collective action. To put it in a nutshell: The authorities created the police in response to large, defiant crowds. That’s

— strikes in England,
— riots in the Northern US,
— and the threat of slave insurrections in the South.

So the police are a response to crowds, not to crime.

I will be focusing a lot on who these crowds were, how they became such a challenge. We’ll see that one difficulty for the rulers, besides the growth of social polarization in the cities, was the breakdown of old methods of personal supervision of the working population. In these decades, the state stepped in to fill the social breach.

We’ll see that, in the North, the invention of the police was just one part of a state effort to manage and shape the workforce on a day-to-day basis. Governments also expanded their systems of poor relief in order to regulate the labor market, and they developed the system of public education to regulate workers’ minds. I will connect those points to police work later on, but mostly I’ll be focusing on how the police developed in London, New York, Charleston (South Carolina), and Philadelphia.
Here is a lengthy, but interesting history of the police coming from the actual far-left. That term, gets thrown around by a host of public and private figures who don't quite understand what that entails, so I thought posting examples of it would be instructive.
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Old 03-16-2015, 09:38 PM
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So in all this history of the Police, where is thy Sting?
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Here is a lengthy, but interesting history of the police coming from the actual far-left. That term, gets thrown around by a host of public and private figures who don't quite understand what that entails, so I thought posting examples of it would be instructive.

LOL, That sure is! I haven't read much of that kind of stuff in years ( had a card-carrying socialist as a prof in college) . I love it! Hopefully someone will be able to tell that these is not the ideas of a 'liberal' historian .There really is a difference between a socialist and a liberal.

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LOL, That sure is! I haven't read much of that kind of stuff in years ( had a card-carrying socialist as a prof in college) . I love it! Hopefully someone will be able to tell that these is not the ideas of a 'liberal' historian .There really is a difference between a socialist and a liberal.
Fairly sure the notion of police to keep social order is an inherent necessity within an economic framework that ensures the very few gain ownership of the vast majority of wealth/resources. Whether the police prevents redistribution of wealth is a economic or philosophic debate, but they sure keep the poor from being able to take food from a rich man's plate (literally).
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