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Old 06-18-2016, 06:34 AM
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WASHINGTON — House Republicans are going to reveal to the public next week what kind of health care reform they want instead of Obamacare. In anticipation, we thought a preview of conservative health policy ideas was in order.

Before anyone gets too excited, the House GOP task force handpicked by Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) to tackle the thorny issue of “replacing” Obamacare isn’t going to introduce legislation or anything like that.

Rather, Ryan will issue a broad outline Wednesday, which will differ somehow from all the other broad outlines congressional Republican leaders have tossed off since 2009, when the debate over the Affordable Care Act began.

It’s only been seven years, so they’ll surely tell everyone what they really want to do, how much it’s going to cost, how many people it will cover, etc., at some point. Next year? Or maybe 2018? (House Republican leaders are still ahead of their Senate counterparts, who don’t appear to be making any effort to define an Obamacare replacement.)

What we already know from news reports — and history — is that the contents of the House GOP proposal likely will be cribbed from previous Republican health care plans, like the ones touted by President George W. Bush in 2004, by Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) during his White House bid in 2008, by then-House Minority Leader John Boehner (Ohio) in 2009 and by presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump this year.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...8c045?section=

I do wonder what would happen to the millions of people who now are insured under the health care program?
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Old 06-18-2016, 02:43 PM
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Oh gee, let's take a few guesses, based upon past efforts:

- HSAs, which favor the young, healthy, and single over older, sicker folks who before the ACA were being forced out of the insurance market and into hoping they could make it until Medicare kicked in.

- Tax credits they promise will help pay for that insurance, but will amount to a pittance to anybody who isn't (again) young, healthy, and single.

- Loosening or ending of mandates that the ACA put in place to ensure that all Americans would join the market and not simply the oldest and sickest, a cynical ploy to win them public favor but will only end up screwing over the insurance companies they spent so much time worrying over years ago.

- Interstate health insurance, which will fuel a "race to the bottom" as health insurers migrate to the state with the loosest regulations in order to boost their profit margins by providing the lowest level of coverage legally allowable. Prepare for a lot of people to buy those "bargain" policies only to find out that they cover little more than a few bandages and a couple of aspirin.
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I remember looking at some of these Republican solutions back before the ACA was passed and signed into law.

What a joke. The coverage of these so called affordable health insurance plans was so limited the premiums were more than the maximum benefits. No major medical coverage, also. So if one happened to get seriously injured, or get a major illness, nada from the health insurance plan. Even the lowest premium cost high deductible plans under the ACA are a vast improvement over what came before.
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So it's now Thursday and there's still no sign of this replacement proposal. Which means it'll probably be a Friday afternoon news dump story.
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I'm sorry, the GOP (read: Paul Ryan) did release their "proposal." And the only items I missed on the list were "tort reform" and turning Medicare and Medicaid into block grant programs.
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Understandably, the GOP is torn on the issue of just what should replace Obamacare.

One faction favors Opioids, Quackery, Austerity, Sickness and Death.

Another favors Bigotry, Bias, Bullshit, Sickness and Death.

Then there are those who just favor Sickness and Death.

It's a quandary.
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Understandably, the GOP is torn on the issue of just what should replace Obamacare.

One faction favors Opioids, Quackery, Austerity, Sickness and Death.

Another favors Bigotry, Bias, Bullshit, Sickness and Death.

Then there are those who just favor Sickness and Death.

It's a quandary.
It is a quandary because if there is a chance to repeal the law, what decision will the GOP make to take those who are now on the program losing that benefit of the law?

Can those who have it continue to have the benefits of that bill, or will they lose coverage and be left to fend for themselves all over again?

How will the GOP continue to provide some sort of coverage for young men and women for their children should they lose that benefit?
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On one hand, Republicans have no legitimate plan for health care. They seem content on the pre-ACA days.

On the other hand, the ACA is largely unpopular due to higher premiums for many, and the inability for everyone to keep their previous doctor and health plan (despite being told they could).

I like single-payer systems and hope one day the U.S. will go in that direction.
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On one hand, Republicans have no legitimate plan for health care. They seem content on the pre-ACA days.

On the other hand, the ACA is largely unpopular due to higher premiums for many, and the inability for everyone to keep their previous doctor and health plan (despite being told they could).

I like single-payer systems and hope one day the U.S. will go in that direction.
The "you can keep your doctor" conundrum has been beat to death. It's a no brainer that if your health plan no longer meets the new ACA minimum requirements, it's going to have to be changed to one that does. And the trend to move toward HMO's and EPO's is nothing new, where one must pick from a list of approved providers, is nothing new, but has been unfairly blamed on the ACA. Balancing these relatively minor glitches is the huge number of Americans whose lives have been made immeasurably better by them finally being able to secure and afford health insurance, thanks to the ACA. In particular, the requirement that nobody can be turned down or cancelled for health insurance because of a pre-existing condition, or priced out of it because of their health status, is a major step in positive humanitarian distribution of health care. Instead of denying care to people who need it the most, the ACA system now provides for them.

One of the real problems of today's health care system is the skyrocketing cost of medications. Not just new, patented meds. But generics as well. The next health care reform must be for Medicare and health insurance exchanges be allowed to negotiate with drug companies on pricing, as well as allow such programs to purchase meds from foreign nations if the same medication costs less across the border. Why should American patients subsidize meds for the rest of the world? It's crazy.
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