These Are the People the Left Think We Can Negotiate With

[PittsburghAfterDark]

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Palestinian gunmen, who identified themselves as members of the Islamic Jihad group, shoot a man in a public square in the West Bank town of Jenin Sunday Aug. 13, 2006. The man, who was executed in front of hundreds of people, was accused by the gunmen of giving information to Israeli authorities, helping them to kill two militants last week in a targeted attack, said witnesses and Islamic Jihad members. The victim was identified as Bassem Malah, 22, who worked in the Israeli Arab town of Umm al Fahm. (AP Photo/Mohammed Ballas)

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As others take pictures with their mobile phones, a man kicks the lifeless body of an alleged ?collaborator? after he was shot and killed by Palestinian gunmen, who identified themselves as members of the Islamic Jihad group, in a public square in the West Bank town of Jenin Sunday Aug. 13, 2006. (AP Photo/Mohammed Ballas)

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Palestinians, some taking pictures with their mobile phones, gather around the body of an alleged ?collaborator? after gunmen, who identified themselves as members of the Islamic Jihad group, shot him and killed him in a public square in the West Bank town of Jenin Sunday Aug. 13, 2006. (AP Photo/Mohammed Ballas)

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A woman, mother of a militant killed by the Israeli army in 2002, steps on the body of an alleged ?collaborator? after Palestinian gunmen, who identified themselves as members of the Islamic Jihad group, shot him and killed him in a public square in the West Bank town of Jenin Sunday Aug. 13, 2006. (AP Photo/Mohammed Ballas)

[Labrocca]

Man they look so gleeful killing someone.

[ECW]

Congratulations, Mr Neo-con.

Another successful smear job.

Karl Rove would be proud.

Hey, while I have your attention, think you could point out in the story you got this from (for which you conveniently forgot to post the link) where it talks about anyone from the left trying to negotiate with these murderers?

[Alonzo]

Look, I don't support the death penalty. But, what do you think should be done with traitors? Somehow I can't picture you condemning the execution of traitors during the revolutionary war, WW2 etc. If I remember correctly, you support executing traitors.

I have no problem condemning this, and I would condemn any country using execution. But the execution of traitors isn't exactly something odd. I fail to see how this is so unique.

[PittsburghAfterDark]

Let's use this comparison, and yes, I am acknowledging your condemnation in the process.

1. Traitors, spies and sabetours in American wars were given trial by Courts Martial or military tribunal. There was some semblance of legal process.

This appears to be nothing more than street justice. Islamic Jihad, legally standing, has no more legal authority than Crips or Bloods.

2. When we executed such person(s) we did so in accordance within the norms of the day. Hangings were private, so were firing squads or electrocution. Not private in the sense of there were no witnesses but it was not public spectacle.

We did not bring in people to gleefully photograph the body, stomp on it, spit on it, celebrate etc.

3. I'm feeling like CWN posting like this.

This is why you cannot negotiate with terrorists groups in any fashion, yes, I'm beating that dead horse again.

Don't think the same thing isn't going to happen in Lebanon with Hezbollah. The worldwide left just organized a "cease fire" with an organization just like these people and called it UN Resolution 17 BLAH BLAH BLAH.

I honestly can agree to disagree over the death penalty with someone principled against it. However even you must acknowledge the process we use to decide life and death is vastly superior to what's exhibited here.

[BoogyMan]

Look, I don't support the death penalty. But, what do you think should be done with traitors? Somehow I can't picture you condemning the execution of traitors during the revolutionary war, WW2 etc. If I remember correctly, you support executing traitors.

I have no problem condemning this, and I would condemn any country using execution. But the execution of traitors isn't exactly something odd. I fail to see how this is so unique.


Wow, you actually took a stand on what a traitor was. The disturbing part of this is that they shot this poor guy to death because he informed on HIZBOLLAH, not their country. You will take a stand against traitorous activity for hizbollah, but not a recognized government. Egads.

[Rider]

Zo wrote: Look, I don't support the death penalty. But, what do you think should be done with traitors? Somehow I can't picture you condemning the execution of traitors during the revolutionary war, WW2 etc. If I remember correctly, you support executing traitors.
Execution is too extreme. Just vote Republican and get them out of office.

[Alonzo]

Wow, you actually took a stand on what a traitor was. The disturbing part of this is that they shot this poor guy to death because he informed on HIZBOLLAH, not their country. You will take a stand against traitorous activity for hizbollah, but not a recognized government. Egads.

I don't see it mentioning anything about that. Even if true, they're still aiding the enemy.

Don't think the same thing isn't going to happen in Lebanon with Hezbollah. The worldwide left just organized a "cease fire" with an organization just like these people and called it UN Resolution 17 BLAH BLAH BLAH.

Did Hezbollah do this after Israel withdrew the last time? I honestly don't know, but we actually history to go on when trying to figure out how they'll behave, and they had essentially free reign to act however they wanted back then, unlike now.

2. When we executed such person(s) we did so in accordance within the norms of the day. Hangings were private, so were firing squads or electrocution. Not private in the sense of there were no witnesses but it was not public spectacle.

Well, we have a functioning court system and the enemy isn't walking our streets. There's a bit of a difference.

If they aided Israel they should be jailed and given a trial and sentenced X amount of years. But this isn't really odd, especially considering the amount of destruction Israel has done to Palestine and the extreme weakness of the palestinian court system. Since the beginning of the second Intifada, the court system exists in little more than name only. It can barely even perform the most basic functions. I haven't heard of them doing anything in the past 4 years.

Execution is too extreme. Just vote Republican and get them out of office.

That makes sense. Vote republican and get the republicans out of office.

[ECW]

Don't think the same thing isn't going to happen in Lebanon with Hezbollah.??

Agreed. Hezbollah is there merely to fight Israelis and drive them into the sea. There is no negotiating with them.

The worldwide left just organized a "cease fire" with an organization just like these people and called it UN Resolution 17 BLAH BLAH BLAH.??

Unless the worldwide left is run by your president, this is where I disagree with your assessment of who wants to negotiate with them.

I honestly can agree to disagree over the death penalty with someone principled against it.??However even you must acknowledge the process we use to decide life and death is vastly superior to what's exhibited here.

Also agreed. This is the mark of a barbaric society and mob rule.

[Athena]

These pictures are worse than ones of torture committed by Americans how?

Humans are the same around the world. I remember seeing some really bad pictures of KKK abuse of blacks, and then there is popular TV which nightly abuse of human beings. It seems most of us are content with fictional violence against others, and are not motivated to lash out so hatefully in real life, but I am uncomfortable with what most Americans watch and consider good entertainment. Most of us are not bu;rning with prejudice as the KKK, and have no reason to lash out violently at others. However, I think if we did, we would. I trust strongly in that fact that human beings are pretty much the same creature around the world.

For sure the intention of this thread is to spread hate, not understanding, forgiveness or love, and I would bet it was started by a Christian. I don't think Jesus would approve.

[PittsburghAfterDark]

For sure the intention of this thread is to spread hate, not understanding, forgiveness or love, and I would bet it was started by a Christian.??I don't think Jesus would approve.??

Do you see a whole lot here to be understanding and forgiving of here?

[Rider]

Athena wrote- These pictures are worse than ones of torture committed by Americans how?
It's pretty obvious. Would you rather:
A) Be sexually humiliated, or
B) Dragged out and shot to death?

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. But death squads are present, where ever there are Arabs.
2. Those who held the guns this time may be the gunnie next time.
3. This type of mob rule is present, all over the middle east.
4. Can you imagine that here in USA?
5. Where lets say someone like ECW makes a claim on someone like me, CWN, and they haul me out in the street and blow my brains out?
6. Just making a statement that I was traitor of his religion or our government?


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[dsanthony]

Look, I don't support the death penalty. But, what do you think should be done with traitors? Somehow I can't picture you condemning the execution of traitors during the revolutionary war, WW2 etc. If I remember correctly, you support executing traitors.

I have no problem condemning this, and I would condemn any country using execution. But the execution of traitors isn't exactly something odd. I fail to see how this is so unique.


You are truly frightening. I hope people like you never gain power in the US. Comparing this mob violence to a death sentence handed down by a US court shows you have no discretion, and no respect or feelings for the US.

[Rider]

A few years ago I felt that the old adage about Arabs only understanding violence and being less than civilized was just prejudiced claptrap. I now believe that it's true.
Has anyone else noticed that areas of the world that seem to be in a constant state of violence and unrest tend to have a strong tribal structure that transcends the concept of nationalism?
All of this has made me realize how fortunate the US and Europe is to be the inheritors of western civilization.
In any event I have come to believe that the people of the Islamic nations in the middle east are not reasonable or even rational and therefore cannot be reasoned with.