Who Would Jesus Bomb?

[December]

Or shoot....

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[Ralph]

Jesus by example of His commission would not bomb anyone while He walked the earth, His commission was to bring fulfillment to the Old Law. But, on the other hand nothing in the scriptures precludes anyone from acting in self defense in defending his/her life or property. In fact did not The Christ Himself "marvel" at the faith which was presented by a "Centurion"? (Matthew 8:5-13) If a Centurion of the 1st century can be presented by the Christ Himself as one who possess great faith, what would preclude the example from being carried over into the current day? Was not this also apparent in the house of Cornelius, as a Roman soldier was chosen by God to prove that Christianity was not only a faith for the Hebrew but to all nations of the worlds (Gentiles)? (Acts 10).

You are presenting an "opinion" that Christ would deem it wrong for someone to serve in the Military, or work under arms defending the public as does law enforcement officers, that all Christians have no right of self defense and must humble themselves before their enemies and sacrifice both their life and property upon request. The scriptures on the other hand present an entirely different TRUTH.

If someone believes that it is wrong to serve in the military under arms or in law enforcement, then wouldn't it also be wrong and hypocritical for that same person to call upon these services when they were needed? If it is sinful to be someone that works in the field of protecting others rights, life, and property, what would justify calling upon those same people in a time of crisis? I would conclude that the same person that started this thread in the name of political ideology would not hesitate to call upon a civil servant working under arms if their family or their own life was under threat.

The wise man of the scriptures says there is a time.......(Ecclesiastes 3:18)
Moses knew there was a time to kill when he defended his oppressed brethren. (Acts 7:22-35, Exodus 2:12, 3:10).

In John 15:12-13 Jesus said, "This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you. Greater love has no one than than this, than to lay down one's life for his friends." Also this script can be referenced to John 3:16. The men and women who serve in law enforcement and in the military may lay down their lives for their fellow man. They may sometimes sacrifice their needs, hopes, desires, and even their very lives in the protection of others, not under their own will but under the orders of a government that only exists in the first place by the will of God, as they are but ministers of God's will (Romans 13:1-7).

In Luke 10:27, Jesus says that we must love our neighbor as we do ourselves. Just as this clearly means do them no harm by commission, it must also imply that we are to see that no harm goes to them due to our lack of action or an act of omission, remember the Golden Rule? If we enjoy the freedoms and protections that are represented by these people as they clearly defend our family and friends are we a good neighbor if we openly "chastise" them for their service? Apparently, The Christ did not chastise them for their service, by example neither should we.

In Luke 3:12-14, did John the Baptist tell the tax collectors and soldiers to give up their occupations? No.

Matthew 8:5-10 and Luke 7:1-10, Jesus does not condemn the work of the centurion, but rather commends his faith.

In fact Jesus uses a parable of kings taking counsel before a battle, would he use such an illustration if he knew that all the military would be condemned? Luke 14:31-32.

Why does the Christ tell his disciples they will be in need of a sword---and presents this need as more important than even their clothing, a Robe? Luke 22:35-38.

It's true Jesus does criticize those who have come to arrest him under arms, but says this should be the methodology used against a robber or thief. Luke 22: 48-52.

As said earlier, in Acts 10 Cornelius was a Roman Centurion, what does 2Tim 2:3-4 conclude? "Thou therefore endure hardness, as a good soldier of Jesus Christ. No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier."

Romans 13: 1-7 offers excellent, self explanatory verses on the roll and function of authority (from God) of all governments of earth, and whether they be good or evil they all are allowed to exist only upon the will of God's mercy.

1 Peter 2:13-14, discusses submission to governing authorities as a duty of any Christian.

Colossians 1:16-17, discusses God's part in creating governments.

Proverbs 29:2, describes what happens when righteous people rule.

Examine the often misrepresented 6th commandment that God gave the nation of Israel and then carried over into the teachings of the New Testament. THOU SHALT NOT KILL. This implies unlawful killing by murdering humans that were made in the image of God, not a probation on all killing, just taking any life unjustly. Any one that makes study of the Bible learns that that there were killings of animals for sacrifices under the old law (Lev. chapters 1-8), that God sanctioned the eating of meat in Genesis 9:3 and Acts 10:10-15. God at times guided his armies in battle as found in Joshua 6, and commanded capital punishment in Genesis 9:6. In Prov. 6:16-17 we learn that God hates hands that shed innocent blood. He did not say hands that shed all blood.

God also allows self-defense as we read of the King David when he was young slaying both lion and bear in defense of his property, his flock 1 Samuel 17. In verse 37 David said it was the Lord who delivered him from the attacking beasts and he would likewise deliver him in battle against the Philistine Goliath. Remember the Apostle Paul killing the attacking viper in Acts 28 1-5? Is it not obvious that "THOU SHALT NOT KILL" means "YOU SHALL NOT MURDER".

In fact GOD spoke of hypocrites who pretend to worship God but instead teach as doctrines the commandments of men. Matthew 15:7-9

GOD EXPECTS THE INDIVIDUAL TO:
Render no evil for evil (1 Thess. 5:15, Romans 12:17)

Blessed are the meek and peacemakers (Matt. 5:5,9).

Turn the other cheek, walk that extra mile and try to do good to your enemies (Matt. 5:38-48, Luke 6:31).

Forgive your brother (Matt. 18:21-23)

Vengeance is Mine, I will repay (Rom. 12:9)

Love one another (1John 4:7-21)

WHILE THE GOVERNMENT (WE THE PEOPLE IN THE USA)
are rulers and minsters of God (Rom. 13:1-7)

They do not bear the sword in vain; an avenger to execute wrath on him who does indeed practice evil against our people.

According to the inspired Apostle Paul, one can commit something deserving of death Acts 25:10-12.

1 Peter 2: 13-17 states, "SUBMIT YOURSELVES TO EVERY ORDINANCE OF MAN FOR THE LORD'S SAKE; WHETHER IT BE TO THE KING, AS SUPREME; OR UNTO GOVERNORS, AS UNTO THEM THAT ARE SENT BY HIM FOR THE PUNISHMENT OF EVILDOERS, AND FOR THE PRAISE OF THEM THAT DO WELL. FOR IT IS THE WILL OF GOD, THAT WITH WELL DOING YE MAY PUT TO SILENCE.......the IGNORANCE of FOOLISH MEN;".

The Lord God tells us the wisdom of executing a sentence speedily against an EVIL WORK (Ecclesiastes 8:11). Ralph

[Alonzo]

Jesus would shoot Putin, then bomb Russia to hide the evidence.

[Ralph]

Jesus would shoot Putin, then bomb Russia to hide the evidence.


As concluded, a political ideology presented in the pretense of religion as being responsible and projected as the fault of anyone other than someone that wants to take personal responsibility for their own actions. The truth contained in the scriptures hinders any presentation generated in the all too apparent hatred of a "liberal" mind, that does not know which polar extreme of cognation they wish to adhere to, TODAY, as it depends upon what is in vogue by their fellow human beings, or what is presented for them to follow by the mass media, no individual thought at all, the lock step of humanistic fascism gestated in social communism. Amusing. (R)

[Alonzo]

Jesus would shoot Putin, then bomb Russia to hide the evidence.


As concluded, a political ideology presented in the pretense of religion as being responsible and projected as the fault of anyone other than someone that wants to take personal responsibility for their own actions. The truth contained in the scriptures hinders any presentation generated in the all too apparent hatred of a "liberal" mind, that does not know which polar extreme of cognation they wish to adhere to, TODAY, as it depends upon what is in vogue by their fellow human beings, or what is presented for them to follow by the mass media, no individual thought at all, the lock step of humanistic fascism gestated in social communism. Amusing. (R)


You're right. I"m worthless, filled with hatred, and lack any thoughts of my own. :(

I wish my mother had aborted me so the world would have been spared my presense.

[Easy90]

Well...I don't want to offend anyone, but..correct me if I'm wrong..Ah, wasn't Jesus just some illiterate guy that got a rep for a few magic tricks? I mean...he was supposed to have been a carpenter...but there's no record of his ever building anything...And, since he couldn't read or write...and nobody who was living when he was supposed to have, wrote anything about him...there's no actual direct evidence of his existence. The actual "written" accounts of his being only got put in ink several centuries after he was supposedly killed...then magically "resurrected" ... performed a few more magic tricks...then ROSE magically into space...and then, he went to America and appeared to the "real" (white) Indians...or so the story goes...(if you are a Mormon.)

I mean...here's a guy that, according to the Bible....and depending on which book you accept, had a direct blood line back to King David...somehow...even though his actual "father" is supposed to have been GOD...and his mother a virgin...However that works...Poor Joseph bought that story anyway.

So....doesn't asking who he would "bomb" seem like a really dumb question?

[Nostalgic Euphoria]

The U.S. would not exist anymore, if Jesus had to bomb someone.


But luckily, he is a figment of our imagination.

[Easy90]

You really hate the U.S. huh?

[Pookie]

I don't think He would bomb or shoot anyone, unless He got really pissed at people claiming to be Christian and Christ-like being total hypocrites and using His name to further their agendas rather than His message.
Purrs,
Pookie