Gunmen kidnap Fox News journalists in Gaza: witness

[BoogyMan]

Link Here (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060814/ts_nm/mideast_gaza_kidnapping_dc_5)

GAZA (Reuters) - Palestinian gunmen kidnapped two foreign journalists working for the Fox News Channel in Gaza on Monday, a witness and the U.S. television network said.

A Fox spokeswoman in New York named the two journalists as correspondent Steve Centanni, an American, and cameraman Olaf Wiig, from New Zealand.

A Fox news report said the network did not know who had seized them but that "negotiations were under way to secure their release."

There was no immediate claim of responsibility for the abduction.

The witness said two vehicles blocked the journalists' transmission truck in the center of Gaza City and a masked man put a gun to a bodyguard's head, forcing him to the ground.

The kidnappers then sped away with the two journalists.

Palestinian police stopped and searched cars. A spokesman for Hamas, the Islamic militant group that leads the Palestinian government, condemned the kidnapping.

Similar incidents in the past in Gaza have ended with the release, usually within hours, of kidnapped foreign journalists or aid workers.

Many of the abductions were carried out by Palestinians pressing a grievance against the Palestinian government or its security forces.

Innocents are kidnapped and what does the nutjob left do?Â*Â*They rejoice, or call for their death.Â*Â*Egads.

AmericaBlog.com (http://americablog.blogspot.com/2006/08/two-bush-administration-officials-fox.html)

DemocraticUnderground.com (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=2455828&mesg_id=2455828)

Rawstory.com (http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Reuters_Fox_journalists_kidnapped_0814.html)
**Be sure to scroll down the page and read the comments**

[lily]

You beat me to the story..........but I would have left out what others think. I don't know why people on the right think they need to post the extreme. Guess they think it adds fuel to the fire?

Anyway......back to the topic........guess Palestine either wanted in on the action, or they were bored after a month of not being bombed.

[BoogyMan]

You beat me to the story..........but I would have left out what others think. I don't know why people on the right think they need to post the extreme. Guess they think it adds fuel to the fire?

Anyway......back to the topic........guess Palestine either wanted in on the action, or they were bored after a month of not being bombed.


I was merely pointing out the disgusting commentary on some prominent left leaning sites. If they embarrass you then there is hope for you yet, if not, shame on you.

This action today points out what we all already know, there is no making peace with a people who simply don't know how to be peaceful. It shouldn't matter who these poor guys were that were abducted, what should matter is a common stand against what was done.

Your making light of who and why is quite distasteful.

[Alonzo]

These kidnappings have been done to embarrass the government, to show they have no control. I'd be somewhat suprised if they aren't released relatively soon, as historically that has been the case. Though they may also have been captured as some sort of bargaining tool, considering recent events.

Even sadder is the fact that Jill says nothing about "activist" the late Tom Fox, murdered for being American, albeit an incredibly stupid one.

I have never for a second believed that this woman was kidnapped. I think that she was hand in glove with some terrorist boyfriend. When no ransom money was forthcoming, and her name slipped to the back pages of the MSM, Jill was "released". Now, where is Keith Maupin?.....

I think we may have found a cure for liberalism. Just have the insurgents kidnap and threaten to kill them and they'll understand!.....

Call me crazy , but I have always thought this kidnapping was orchestrated by her and her cronies to gain access and show sympathy to these radical islamofacist for a future book deal . I just know the book will be comming soon , and I'll also bet the NY Times , LA Times ,the BBC and all the other members of the Mean Streak Media will give the books a best seller rating and I think I'm going to puke so I have to run . . .....

Although the circumstances of her interviews seem a little murky, her unwillingness to receive assistance from the military or to share intelligence with them reduces to absolute ZERO my concern that she ultimately makes it home.......

I have a feeling that the whole thing was planned and that she was never really kidnapped. She just wanted national exposure and publicity. There is something about her story that doesn't ring true.....

Typical media Liberal scum not worthy of living in freedom......

She wears that muslim head gear and "tent".

Even if she wasn't, why should we lift a finger to save her.....

You're right Howlin. She's not a muslim. She's worse. She's an American freelance anti-war reporter. i.e. she's Rachel Corrie with a journalism degree.....

What used to be called a traitor who wishes to aid the enemy, to provide comfort and communications as well as support, and to use the "press" as a veneer of cover.
Used to be "humanitarian" worked, but it's too restrictive and difficult to fake. How many "dispatches" did this moonbat send back for publishing? What was the nature of the dispatches?....

I predict she will be released unharmed. This was the faux kidnapping too far.

She will be an even greater asset to the islamofascists as a hero journalist than a dead one.

She has too many Massachusetts ties for me to believe that she is anything other than a traitor to the republic trying to abuse whatever position she had to harm the US........

Just a bunch of quotes I grabbed off free republic from the Jill Carrol kidnapping.

Seriously, the posters at DU and FR are good for a laugh, but they're not something you can honestly use to condemn the average person from their side.

[BoogyMan]

Seriously, the posters at DU and FR are good for a laugh, but they're not something you can honestly use to condemn the average person from their side.


A L O N Z OÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* E Q U I V O C A T I O NÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* A L E R T

How many of those quotes you just posted wished her a painful death and suggested that it would be great if they killed others as well? Now go read the mental feces posted at DU! You gotta love your big tent.

[PittsburghAfterDark]

Unfortunately 'zo the models for "good" representatives and senators are being driven by participants both sites. It's going to be even worse in 2008 when we try and nominate a President. 2004 was only a "get to know you" for that process. You're going to see the most polar opposites in the history of the Republic nominated in 2008 since the Civil War.

I won't defend FR for those statements however the majority of the distateful ones you posted were conspiratorial in nature, not waiting/hoping for the outright death of a reporter.

You're vastly underestimating the tone of the argument and political tone/positioning the web has. Ned Lamont is the bastard love child of DU and the Daily Kos.

[lily]

BoogyMan



I was merely pointing out the disgusting commentary on some prominent left leaning sites. If they embarrass you then there is hope for you yet, if not, shame on you.

Didn't bother with the links, not did I bother with Zo's posting from FR. If I wanted to know what the extremist said, I would go to those sites and post. I'm more interested in what the people on the forums I choose to post on think.



Your making light of who and why is quite distasteful.
I wasn't making light........that was my opinion.

[Alonzo]

I read the whole article. Jill Carroll still is anti-american/anti-military. Frankly, I don't care how well or how bad she claims they treated her (as she states in the article). IMO, if her story is indeed true, then she got what she deserved after speaking out against our troops.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1683093/posts?q=1&&page=51

On Rachel Corrie (american girl crushed by an Israeli bulldozer):

Rachel "Look ma I'm Roadkill" Corrie was an idiot. Proven by the way she CHOSE to die.....

Rachel Cories parents need to just have the **** beat out of them....

What's she saying now? Live flat or die? BUAHAHAHHAH!....

Corrie is hardly forgotten. Her commie life and idiot's death are celebrated, here, nearly all the time. In fact, I'll never be able to eat pancakes without first thinking of that kooky, zany and wonderfully stupid young lady.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1604353/posts#comment?q=1


The wacko's on both sides are just that, wacko's. We got conservatives on this site, hell one's posting in this topic, who has no concern if an arab or muslim is killed. And we have posters who openly call for the killing of all Muslims as a solution our problems (chess most notably).

[Churchel]

I dunno, fox reporters? I find that interesting. I wonder if they worked with tony snow.

[Drocket]

I find it amusing/telling that to find stupid/offensive/violent comments on the left, you have to search through anonymous postings by random idiots on the internet, where as on the right, all you have to do is listen to 'respected' conservative commentators such as Rush and Coulter.

[PittsburghAfterDark]

I think the difference there Drocket, since you're making generalities, is that the right views America as noble and worth defending and the left views it with contempt, abject hatred and would surrender in order to look good.

I suggest that some people on this board go buy a prayer rug. I mean, in the name of "diversity" and "sensitivity". Try it out. Pray to Mecca once or twice a day, we're not going to ask you to do it five times a day. Just see if you like it, follow a tennant or two of Islam for acclimation purposes.

Get back to us when you've conducted your experiment. We already know the Islamic fascists goals, you can go quietly since you have no intention of going by force. Let us know how how enlightened you feel after you've given Islam a taste.

[BoogyMan]

I dunno, fox reporters? I find that interesting.Â*Â*I wonder if they worked with tony snow.




Ahhh, we have a DU veteran!

[BoogyMan]

I find it amusing/telling that to find stupid/offensive/violent comments on the left, you have to search through anonymous postings by random idiots on the internet, where as on the right, all you have to do is listen to 'respected' conservative commentators such as Rush and Coulter.


So tell me Drocket, where is it that Rush has ever called for the death of a kidnapping victim? I think I must have missed that, point it out for me.

[Drocket]

So tell me Drocket, where is it that Rush has ever called for the death of a kidnapping victim?Â*Â*I think I must have missed that, point it out for me.


November 29, 2005 (http://mediamatters.org/items/200511300010?offset=20&show=1). A group of Christian peace activists were kidnapped in Iraq, and Rush nearly giggled himself sick over how they'd be tortured and killed.

[PittsburghAfterDark]

Sorry, I read it... even though it came from Media Matters, a huge left wing slanted site, and he said no such thing.

Saying that they would be shown the reality of the world, the conflict and the enemy is not calling for their death.

[lily]

Ok, PAD, I'm a fair person. I don't make a habit of listening or reading much of Limbaugh. Tell you what.........you read and/or listen. I'll check every now and then also. If and when he says he likes the idea of the Fox News reporters getting the same treatment that he wishes on these others that were captured.......and that he likes it....... we'll meet back here and discuss it.

Somehow, I think that hell just might freeze over, but who knows?

[BoogyMan]

So tell me Drocket, where is it that Rush has ever called for the death of a kidnapping victim?Â*Â*I think I must have missed that, point it out for me.


November 29, 2005 (http://mediamatters.org/items/200511300010?offset=20&show=1).Â*Â*A group of Christian peace activists were kidnapped in Iraq, and Rush nearly giggled himself sick over how they'd be tortured and killed.


Drocket, I was ready to come back here with a "I was wrong" until I read that page. Did you even read the question I asked? No wonder people don't trust the left, you took my question and twisted it just like you tried to twist that page into saying that Rush called for the death of those hostages.

The left in this country has NOTHING to bring to the table, nothing!

[Drocket]

Saying that they would be shown the reality of the world, the conflict and the enemy is not calling for their death.


And the Fox News reporters will be shown the reality of the situation in the Middle East - that the whole 'we're winning'/'stay the course'/yadda yadda is a whole lotta propaganda bullshit. And if they happen to get their heads cut off as part of their education - well, those things happen.

[BoogyMan]

Saying that they would be shown the reality of the world, the conflict and the enemy is not calling for their death.


And the Fox News reporters will be shown the reality of the situation in the Middle East - that the whole 'we're winning'/'stay the course'/yadda yadda is a whole lotta propaganda bullshit.Â*Â*And if they happen to get their heads cut off as part of their education - well, those things happen.



Like I said previously, we have a DU superstar here.

[Drocket]

And again, if I was rightwing, I'd be qualified to be a highly paid commentator/author.

[lily]

Drocket

'stay the course'/


Not to nit-pick Drocket.......but according to Melhman, the new phrase is Win by Adapting......stay the course is so yesterday.:P..........or they just now figured out stay the course is not working.

[Cobra]

A new phrase, cool. I know, probably wont help anything but stay the course was getting old really fast considering the situation over there. I swear I want to change the channel everytime I hear it talked about on the news.

[Drocket]

Not to nit-pick Drocket.......but according to Melhman, the new phrase is Win by Adapting......stay the course is so yesterday.:P..........or they just now figured out stay the course is not working.
I know they did the big public test-marketting of the phrase 'Win by Adapting', but it just doesn't seem to be working out. The phrase already seems to have disappeared as quickly as it appeared. It just wasn't catchy enough, I guess. I'm sure we'll be hearing a LOT of different new catchphrases in the next couple of months as they try to find a replacement slogan for the ever-worsening situation in Iraq, something with enough pizzazz to cover up a massive debacle.

Its a lot like trying to come up with the magic slogan to convince people to buy New Coke, really.

[Rider]

Lily said-
Ok, PAD, I'm a fair person. I don't make a habit of listening or reading much of Limbaugh. Tell you what.........you read and/or listen. I'll check every now and then also. If and when he says he likes the idea of the Fox News reporters getting the same treatment that he wishes on these others that were captured.......and that he likes it....... we'll meet back here and discuss it.

Somehow, I think that hell just might freeze over, but who knows?
I have listend to Rush for about 15 years now. I agree with him on maybe 50-60% of what he says. But one thing that I can tell you is that he is not vindictive or hateful. If you believe that then I can safely assume that you don't listen to him.
On this issue, Rush pointed out the naivete' and obvious lack of understanding of these so called "peace activists". Anyone who thinks Rush would really wish them harm doesn't listen to him. In fact, of all the talk show hosts I listen to, he is the most upbeat and good humored.
I think that this is the biggest reason he has stayed on top for so long. By comparison, the hosts on Air America come across as being angry, bitter and vitriolic.

[Churchel]

So please tell me, oh listeners of talk radio, what does the phrase DU mean?

[lily]

DU=Democratic Underground. Don't feel bad about not knowing.....I had no clue what it was until someone on the right told me to go there. For some reason, the right is obsessed with them.

[Rider]

DU is the place to go if you want to listen to the heartbeat of the Democratic Party base.

[Alonzo]

DU is the place to go if you want to listen to the heartbeat of the Democratic Party base.


I find DU to be run by blind, shouting mad people, and free republic to be run by blind, shouting bigots. Are they the heartbeat of the republican party?

I never get along with political groups it seems.

[Rider]

OK, point well taken, Zo.