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lily
08-13-2006, 01:50 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060812/ap_on_el_se/republican_infighting

PROVIDENCE, R.I. - Fresh off their first victory over a Republican
incumbent, GOP conservatives seeking party purity on taxes and spending are
focused on ousting moderate Republican Sen. Lincoln Chafee (news, bio,
voting record) of Rhode Island.




The Club for Growth and its 36,000 members spent around $1 million to help
challenger Tim Walberg unseat first-term Rep. Joe Schwarz in Michigan's
Republican primary on Tuesday. The win came despite Schwarz's support from

President Bush and the National Rifle Association.

Since its inception in 1999, the group has spent millions to help dozens of
conservative Republicans win seats in Congress - often at the expense of
more moderate party members. The Club's president, former Rep. Pat Toomey
(news, bio, voting record), nearly defeated Pennsylvania Sen. Arlen Specter
(news, bio, voting record) in 2004.

This year, the group's top priority is defeating Chafee, who angered many
Republicans by voting against President Bush's tax cuts and then casting a
write-in vote for the president's father in the last election. The Club has
helped Cranston, R.I., Mayor Stephen Laffey raise hundreds of thousands of
dollars to unseat Chafee, and polls show the two Republicans running even a
month before the Sept. 12 primary.

The prospect of a Laffey win worries national Republicans, who consider
Chafee the party's best bet for holding the seat in a heavily Democratic
state. Polls show Laffey trailing far behind the leading Democratic
candidate, former Attorney General Sheldon Whitehouse.

The Club's Web site says that's fine: "It wouldn't be much of a loss if a
new Democrat senator were elected, as he would vote much the same as Chafee
does now."

Republicans who support the Club say its refusal to compromise its ideology
gives it credibility.

"They're not about getting more Republicans elected, they're about getting
real Republicans elected," said Jerry Stacy, spokesman for Sharron Angle, a
Club-endorsed House candidate in Nevada.

But Chafee is a Republican who votes with his party most of the time. His
father, the late John Chafee, is revered in Rhode Island as a World War II
hero who served three terms as governor and more than 20 years in the
Senate. Like his father, the younger Chafee is a fiscal conservative and
environmentalist.

Moderate Republicans criticize the Club for targeting incumbents like Chafee
instead of going after Democrats.

"I refer to the Club for Growth as the enemy within," said Rep. Sherwood
Boehlert (news, bio, voting record), R-N.Y., whom the Club opposed in GOP
primaries in 2002 and 2004.

Economic conservatives founded the Club to encourage the federal government
to adopt "pro-growth economic policies." That includes making the Bush tax
cuts permanent, repealing the estate tax, cutting government spending and
expanding free trade.

One Club tactic is providing campaign cash to candidates who espouse a free
market philosophy. It raised $22 million for issue advocacy, candidates and
operations in the last election cycle.

This year, the club and its 36,000 members were responsible for $1.1 million
of the estimated $3 million spent on Michigan's Republican primary. The
group opposed Schwarz even though he - like Chafee - was endorsed by Bush.
Also like Chafee, Schwarz has criticized the war in

Iraq, supports abortion rights and favors stem-cell research.

Rider
08-13-2006, 03:30 PM
Lily- A perfectly valid point. Thanks for the balance. We'll see how this all plays out in November.

lily
08-13-2006, 11:26 PM
Sounds fair to me! Hats off to you Rider.......you're the only Republican that even wanted to touch the topic.

Nathan Brazil
08-13-2006, 11:29 PM
!!NEWS FLASH!!

Chaffee ain't a Republican.Â*Â*He abandoned the party to suck Democrat heinie in 2001.Â*Â*Remember?Â*Â*That dumb-ass is an independent and if he's trying to sneak back into the party in the primary it's perfectly reasonable for real Republicans to rally around another figure that isn't even a RINO anymore.

Loserman's situation is completely different.

As for Arlen Specter, the Republicans had an excellent chance of getting rid of someone almost as smelly as Chaffee, but Bush-The-Liberal can't abide Republicans that don't cater to the Democrats, so he backed Specter and lost Pennsylvania in the 2004 election as a result.

It doesn't surprise me that many RINO's wish to return Chaffee to his former spot of shame. That just proves that the big problem in this coutnry isn't Democrat vs Republican but liberal vs American.

lily
08-13-2006, 11:57 PM
Nathan Brazil


!!NEWS FLASH!!

[quote]Chaffee ain't a Republican. He abandoned the party to suck Democrat heinie in 2001. Remember? That dumb-ass is an independent and if he's trying to sneak back into the party in the primary it's perfectly reasonable for real Republicans to rally around another figure that isn't even a RINO anymore.

Odd.......that's how the Democrats feel about Lieberman.

Loserman's situation is completely different.

As for Arlen Specter, the Republicans had an excellent chance of getting rid of someone almost as smelly as Chaffee, but Bush-The-Liberal can't abide Republicans that don't cater to the Democrats, so he backed Specter and lost Pennsylvania in the 2004 election as a result.

Let me see here......Lieberman didn't get the Democats vote because he backed the president on Iraq. Chaffee didn't get the vote, because he didn't back Bush on taxes and poor Swartz lost, because he had the president's backing.........hmmmm.......I'm seeing a pattern here.

ECW
08-14-2006, 05:57 AM
Chaffee ain't a Republican.Â*Â*He abandoned the party to suck Democrat heinie in 2001.Â*Â*Remember?Â*Â*That dumb-ass is an independent and if he's trying to sneak back into the party in the primary it's perfectly reasonable for real Republicans to rally around another figure that isn't even a RINO anymore.

Chafee certainly is a Republican but he is the kind of Republican that is fast disappearing in our country: a Rockefeller Republican. He's a moderate who doesn't march in lock step with his party. That pisses off the neo-cons who have taken over the GOP. They would rather be in charge than be right. That makes Chafee especially dangerous because he can think for himself. Neo-cons cannot.

That just proves that the big problem in this coutnry isn't Democrat vs Republican but liberal vs American.

Close. It's actually neo-cons vs everybody else. Liberals, moderates, and independents all have seen the writing on the wall and it says that we're sending neo-con politicians home in record numbers this November. You're done screwing America over to fatten your bankbook.

Nathan Brazil
08-14-2006, 06:05 AM
Chaffee ain't a Republican.Â*Â*He abandoned the party to suck Democrat heinie in 2001.Â*Â*Remember?Â*Â*That dumb-ass is an independent and if he's trying to sneak back into the party in the primary it's perfectly reasonable for real Republicans to rally around another figure that isn't even a RINO anymore.

Chafee certainly is a Republican but he is the kind of Republican that is fast disappearing in our country: a Rockefeller Republican. He's a moderate who doesn't march in lock step with his party. That pisses off the neo-cons who have taken over the GOP. They would rather be in charge than be right. That makes Chafee especially dangerous because he can think for himself. Neo-cons cannot.

That just proves that the big problem in this coutnry isn't Democrat vs Republican but liberal vs American.

Close. It's actually neo-cons vs everybody else. Liberals, moderates, and independents all have seen the writing on the wall and it says that we're sending neo-con politicians home in record numbers this November. You're done screwing America over to fatten your bankbook.


Yeah, he's a Republican. That's why he's listed as an "independent" on the Senate's rolls.:rolleyes:

ECW
08-14-2006, 06:30 AM
Yeah, he's a Republican.Â*Â*That's why he's listed as an "independent" on the Senate's rolls.:rolleyes:

The only independent listed on the Senate's rolls is Jeffords of New Hampshire. Chafee is listed as a Republican. (http://www.abanet.org/poladv/sjres16606.pdf)

Sorry, pal, you're wrong again.

Nathan Brazil
08-14-2006, 08:04 AM
Yeah, he's a Republican.Â*Â*That's why he's listed as an "independent" on the Senate's rolls.:rolleyes:

The only independent listed on the Senate's rolls is Jeffords of New Hampshire. Chafee is listed as a Republican. (http://www.abanet.org/poladv/sjres16606.pdf)

Sorry, pal, you're wrong again.


Oops, you're right, I got them confused.Â*Â*That's so easy to do, since there's no difference between them. My bad.

But you're wrong for using the word "again". Again.

Chaffee is one of the many many RINO's in the government.Â*Â*In fact, all the so-called Republicans in the Senate are fat horny ugly four legged bastards that don't do a damn thing to help the United States.

They're just like all the Democrats and the Jumpin' Jim in the Senate in that regard.

PittsburghAfterDark
08-14-2006, 12:37 PM
I wouldn't call Chaffee the "Lieberman" of the Republican party. The base has been livid with him for years.

It's not like we suddenly woke up in 2004 and said, damn, Linc has got to go.

You're going to have to go a long way back in American political history before you find someone a major party made their VP candidate to having the majority of party leadership quietly looking to have him thrown out of existing office his next term.

I would put Jim Jeffords in a hell of a lot more distain than Chaffee. We know what we're getting with Chaffee. Jumpin' Jim swung the makeup of the Senate to where it was a deadlock and the hyper partisan cesspool it is today.