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lily
01-29-2008, 03:42 AM
I have to say, whithout trying to sound over dramatic, that when I watched this live this afternoon, I felt like I was watching history in the making. I have to admit that I'm feeling something that I haven't felt in a long time and that is passion for a candidate.......and it feels good. (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/28/kennedy.obama/index.html?eref=rss_topstories)

Kennedy: 'It's time now for Barack Obama'


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Sen. Edward Kennedy backed Sen. Barack Obama for
president Monday, saying, "It is time again for a new generation of
leadership."


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"It is time now for Barack Obama," the Massachusetts senator and brother of
the late President Kennedy added.

He stood with Obama, his son, Rep. Patrick Kennedy, and his niece, Caroline
Kennedy, before a screaming capacity crowd of students at American
University in Washington.

"Like you, we want a president who appeals to the hopes of those who still
believe in the American dream," he said.

"I've found that candidate. And it looks to me like you have too," he said.
Watch Kennedy compare Obama to JFK »

After Kennedy spoke, Obama told the boisterous crowed: "I know what your
support means. I know the cherished place the Kennedy family holds in the
hearts of the American people."

The Illinois Democrat said he would work to carry on the vision the
senator's brother laid out when he was president nearly five decades ago.

"The dream has never died ... it lives on in those Americans, young and old,
rich and poor, black and white, Latino and Asian and Native American, gay
and straight, who are tired of a politics that divides us and want to
recapture the sense of common purpose that we had when John Kennedy was
president of the United States of America," Obama said.

"That is the dream we hold in our hearts," Obama said. "That is the kind of
leadership we long for in this country. And that is the kind of leadership I
intend to offer as president of the United States of America."

Kennedy said he has always planned to "support the candidate who inspires
me, who inspires all of us, who can lift our vision and summon our hopes and
renew our belief that our country's best days are still to come." Watch
Obama explain why Kennedy decided to endorse him »



Kennedy praised Sen. Hillary Clinton and former Sen. John Edwards, saying
Edwards "has been a powerful advocate for economic and social justice. And
Hillary Clinton has been in the forefront on issues ranging from health care
to the rights of women around the world.

"Whoever is our nominee will have my enthusiastic support," he said.

But he also took a line from Clinton's campaign, saying Obama "is ready to
be president on Day 1."

In what may have been a veiled swipe at Clinton, Kennedy said of Obama,
"From the beginning, he opposed the war in Iraq. And let no one deny that
truth."

Clinton has pointed to various statements Obama has made about Iraq,
suggesting he has not been consistent -- an accusation he has denied.

Kennedy -- a fixture of the Democratic Party popular with many liberals --
was introduced by Caroline Kennedy, who spoke of her father, the slain
president. She said Obama offers the "sense of hope and inspiration" that
Americans today need. In fact, she said, her children "were the first people
who made me realize that Barack Obama is the president we need."

The New York Times reported Monday that Sen. Kennedy endorsed Obama despite
pleas from the Clinton camp to remain neutral in the Democratic race.

The Massachusetts senator decided to endorse Obama after becoming concerned
about the often-bitter campaigning involving former President Clinton before
Saturday's South Carolina primary, which Obama won, the newspaper reported.

The Times said Kennedy was angry the former president had introduced what he
felt were racial themes into the campaign and that Bill Clinton had made
misleading statements about Obama, matters Kennedy and Clinton discussed
during two heated telephone conversations earlier this month.

Caroline Kennedy endorsed Obama in a weekend New York Times editorial.

Members of the Kennedy clan are split in the race. Former Maryland Lt. Gov.
Kathleen Kennedy Townsend issued a statement Sunday stating her support for
Clinton.

"I respect Caroline and Teddy's decision, but I have made a different
choice," she said. "While I admire Sen. Obama greatly, I have known Hillary
Clinton for over 25 years and have seen firsthand how she gets results. As a
woman, leader and person of deep convictions, I believe Hillary Clinton
would make the best possible choice for president."

She added that her brother Bobby and sister Kerry are also backing Clinton.

Kennedy Townsend is the oldest child of Robert F. Kennedy.

Sen. Kennedy's decision to endorse Obama could help Obama's campaign as he
seeks momentum toward Super Tuesday on February 5, when 22 states and
American Samoa will weigh in on the Democratic race. In polls, Obama has
trailed Clinton nationally.

Obama, coming off the South Carolina victory, has been seeking to expand his
support nationwide. He won that state with the help of a large majority of
African-American voters, while most white voters supported Clinton or
Edwards.

Sen. Kennedy spoke enthusiastically, interrupted by frequent applause from
the young crowd.

"When John Kennedy thought of going to the moon, he didn't say no, it was
too far, maybe we couldn't get there and shouldn't even try," he said.


"I am convinced we can reach our goals only if we are not petty when our
cause is so great -- only if we find a way past the stale ideas and
stalemate of our times -- only if we replace the politics of fear with the
politics of hope -- and only if we have the courage to choose change.

"Barack Obama is the one person running for president who can bring us that
change. Barack Obama is the one person running for president who can be that
change."

Alonzo
01-29-2008, 03:44 AM
If Obama wins then either Iraq is screwed, or Obama pisses off the left by not withdrawing from Iraq soon.

Either way someone gets screwed. Either Iraqi's or the voters.

Buck Laser
01-29-2008, 03:47 AM
There is really something different about what's happening this year. The test is going to be to see if Senator Obama can live up to his anointment as the leader. We do have time to find out before November.

To the question of experience: some have said that nothing really prepares someone for the presidency--it's always on-the-job training. Judged in that light, Obama may be the best choice simply because he's certainly already demonstrated his potential.

It's going to be an exciting year.

Drocket
01-29-2008, 05:39 AM
Our next president, whoever it may be, is, quite simply, screwed even before he/she takes office. They're going to be under assault from the day they take office, if not before. I predict the Republicans calling for impeachment hearings before the end of February 2009. What for, god only knows, but they'll make something up out of thing air if they have to. I wish I was kidding here, but I'm not. After turning a blind eye to Bush's continuous violations of the law and the Constitution, I'll bet you any amount of money that ANY exercise of power by the next president will be met with demands for congressional investigation.

The bigger problem, though, is that we're in the middle of multiple crises, none of which have an easy solution. The housing bubble is collapsing and foreclosures are increasing at an almost exponential rate. The next president is going to have the choice of trying to bail homeowners out at the cost of billions of dollars, or presiding over a nation of homeless. The economy in general is going into the toilet, and no tax rebate scheme is going to do more than keep things marginally afloat for a few more months. Iraq is in a damned-if-you-do-damned-if-you-don't situation: we either keep our troops over there for a few more decades (which we can't afford to do anyway) or watch the country collapse into all-out civil war. And all of these things are putting pressure on the dollar, which is rapidly approaching the value of toilet paper.

As I said, I think we're screwed. Things aren't going to be getting better any time soon, and the next president is going to bear the brunt of the blame for it (the only thing keeping the networks afloat the next few may turn out to be Republican-sponsored ads blaming Democrats...) I *almost* wish the Republicans would win, just so they could have the joy of reaping what they've sown, but quite frankly, I don't know if our country could survive that. The Democrats may simply have to take the blow for the good of the country...

ViolaLee
01-29-2008, 05:48 AM
I have to say, whithout trying to sound over dramatic, that when I watched this live this afternoon, I felt like I was watching history in the making. I have to admit that I'm feeling something that I haven't felt in a long time and that is passion for a candidate.......and it feels good. (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/28/kennedy.obama/index.html?eref=rss_topstories)

I feel the same way Lily. I never felt this good about Clinton. Obama is really the first candidate I've been really optimistic about. Hopeful, energized, excited. I went to make phone calls for his campaign again tonight. Every time someone in the room gets an Obama supporter on the phone we ring the bell in the middle of the table and everyone cheers. It's sometimes so loud we can't hear the person on the phone, but it's fun, and really hopeful.

Pookie
01-29-2008, 06:15 AM
Man, you people really are spot-on with all your points. I'm stuck between Obama and Romney, yes whoever is elected will be up to his/her southern border in major alligators, and I feel hopeful too! And this IS already an exciting year and it's going to get a lot more exciting as we roll toward November.
I'm especially excited because this year I have a much better car in which to get folks back and forth to the polls, and it will be a lot more comfortable and easier for people to get in and out of.
What a rush.
Purrs,
Pookie

bishop
01-29-2008, 01:14 PM
good to see the dems breaking ranks from the clinton camp. they act way too arrogant and entitled for my tastes..

and, while i don't like obama's positions on the issues, i will at least give him credit for having the sort of air/charisma that one would expect from a leader/president. he carries himself in a way where people will at least listen to what he has to say - and would be willing to talk to, compromise with... i also believe he would do a lot of good to improve our nation's international image.

can't say the same about hillary. she's a polarizing turd, just the opposite side of the same coin bush is on.

preservanation
01-29-2008, 01:32 PM
I look at the GOP running against Obama or Hillary as I would odds in Vegas.
Obama, who I actually like but who's policies are virtually identical to Clinton's, would be harder to beat than Hillary.
Hillary would be an easier opponent, however the dire consequences of her getting in office are much worse than Obama doing the same. She will ensconce herself in power and install liberalism or better yet, "clintonism" in every aspect and level of gov. Remember the tactics they used in the 90's and now on Obama. FBI files, ruthless opposition research and division in order for them to wield and maintain power.

Run against Obama; 1:1 to beat him with $20 on the line.
Run against Hillary; 5:3 to beat her with $20,000 on the line.
A political Hobson's Choice.

Cobra
01-29-2008, 02:45 PM
We'll see on super tue. if Obama can keep up with Hillary. I'd much rather see Hillary get the dem nod. Obama promises the moon but I doubt he has the political clout to get things pushed through with congress that is only slightly dem controlled and a fractured dem party.

bishop
01-29-2008, 03:55 PM
Run against Obama; 1:1 to beat him with $20 on the line.
Run against Hillary; 5:3 to beat her with $20,000 on the line.
A political Hobson's Choice.

thanks for exemplifying how the media has effectively turned people to viewing elections as horse races that they gamble on.

micfranklin
01-29-2008, 04:02 PM
God bless you Ted Kennedy.

preservanation
01-29-2008, 09:50 PM
Run against Obama; 1:1 to beat him with $20 on the line.
Run against Hillary; 5:3 to beat her with $20,000 on the line.
A political Hobson's Choice.

thanks for exemplifying how the media has effectively turned people to viewing elections as horse races that they gamble on.
thanks for exemplifying how naive and ignorant some people can be.

ViolaLee
02-04-2008, 02:36 AM
Kennedy's speech:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Eawu8pQxRI