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Truth Detector
01-21-2008, 06:29 PM
Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented immigrant" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"

Author unkown, but definately intelligent.

AnnEsthesia
01-21-2008, 06:31 PM
Why are you putting this stuff in Current Events? It is hardly current events.

micfranklin
01-21-2008, 07:09 PM
The moral of the story is that it's easier to sell cocaine and heroin at Rite Aid.

PatrickHenry
01-21-2008, 07:20 PM
definately intelligent.

More than I can say for your spelling.

Truth Detector
01-21-2008, 07:26 PM
definately intelligent.

More than I can say for your spelling.


Your focus on my spelling and avoidance of substance are duly noted. :clapper:[hr]
Why are you putting this stuff in Current Events? It is hardly current events.


How is a discussion about "illegal immigration" not a current event? Because you say so?
:peace:

AnnEsthesia
01-21-2008, 07:35 PM
What discussion? You posted a quote. No commentary, nothing along with it.

BoogyMan
01-21-2008, 07:40 PM
The quote posted was quite truthful, no matter how much others want to relegate the comment to obscurity. Those who sneak into America deserve to carry the weight of their action in the label applied to them. Illegal alien is EXACTLY what someone whose first action with regard to America is sneaking into the country illegally. Call an illegal alien and undocumented immigrant is PC speak that tries to lessen the specter of illegality of their action and truly does equate to a drug dealer being called an unlicensed pharmacist.

PatrickHenry
01-21-2008, 07:55 PM
definately intelligent.

More than I can say for your spelling.


Your focus on my spelling and avoidance of substance are duly noted.
Heh. Surely you can see the humor in the juxtaposition of the word "intelligent" with the misspelling "definAtely"... :madlaugh:

Anybody can make a typo, no big deal.

It just tickled me to see it in its context.

Alonzo
01-21-2008, 08:09 PM
I've never heard of anyone referred to as an "illegal pharmacist". Unlicensed pharmacist is like saying "unlicensed plumber" or "unlicensed electrician"

Heh. Surely you can see the humor in the juxtaposition of the word "intelligent" with the misspelling "definAtely"... Madlaugh

Anybody can make a typo, no big deal.

It just tickled me to see it in its context.

That's why I have my browser underline all misspelled words, and I simply right click to correct it.

Though I do type the wrong word a lot though, which I often don't catch.

Truth Detector
01-21-2008, 09:04 PM
What discussion? You posted a quote. No commentary, nothing along with it.


It is funny how someone as smart as you appear to be cannot see a dialogue as it is occurring.

To satisfy your inability to see any relevance to my statement; "Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented immigrant" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist", I will place it in its current political context.

The Democrats and Left in this country want to change the debate about illegal aliens in this country by re-defining the term. This is a weak effort to demonize their opponents by promoting the idea that those on the OTHER side of the aisle who believe we need to enforce our immigration laws must be "immigrant haters" or "anti immigrant."

It is a common tactic used by those who do not have any facts to support their emotional political positions. However, nothing could be further from the truth.

The truth is, we do have laws in this country which have been largely ignored for the past two decades by our politicians on BOTH sides of the aisle. This issue has now come to light as a direct result in the equally disingenuous debate about Healthcare.

Those who want to promote the lie that 45 million of our citizens are without healthcare because the Government isn't in the healthcare business, use the "undocumented alien" debate to promote an agenda not based on fact, but emotional bile.

Most of the stress being placed on our healthcare system is the result of legislation that requires anyone who comes to the Community Hospital be treated regardless of status.

While this is a very humanitarian thing to do, one has to pretend that illegal aliens are not part of the cause of our budgetary problems related to healthcare and it's insurance and must be living in a fantasy world of their own making.

This "immigration" debate has been turned into a partisan debate as a direct result of many on the Left who do not want to have an honest dialogue of why these people come here and how they get in and the costs associated with them being here illegally. Perhaps they see them as a possible voting contingent to be pandered to. But they do not want to have an honest debate and would rather resort to demonizing anyone wanting to enforce our laws by calling them "undocumented aliens" rather than what they really are, "illegal aliens" who are breaking our laws, thereby positing that anyone against these "undocumented aliens" must be "anti-immigration." Forget the fact that sneaking into this country undermines legal immigrants in the work force and by making babies here they can by-pass the lengthy and tedious "legal" path those who are here legally had to go through. Why go through the effort of "legal" immigration when one can by-pass the tedious effort to be LEGAL and instead argue for eventual amnesty from politicians who don't have the spine to enforce the laws they pass?

It is time to have an HONEST dialogue about how to FIX the problem of ILLEGAL aliens sneaking into our country and who are using our generosity and largess to their benefit and our detriment.

It is time to have an HONEST dialogue about why Government should not be in the Insurance or Healthcare business and how those nations who have gone that way have shown it to be a failure.

I am still waiting for that HONEST dialogue and this is another way to highlight it. I certainly hope this satisfies your perception that one need to have a commentary to make a point.
:peace:

potter
01-21-2008, 09:14 PM
I have to laugh at all the indignant comments on the Illegal ailiens and how they are "breaking the law" and should be punished and raked over the coals for "breaking the law". Indeed, most Americans break the law whenever they see fit. You speed? tailgating? no signal when changing lanes? You've broken the law...cheat on your taxes? You've broken the law. I doubt there isn't a person in the US who hasn't broken one law or another at some time in their lives...but go on and demonize those "illegal" immigrants.....as if you're pure as the driven snow.....:unreal:

AnnEsthesia
01-21-2008, 09:20 PM
If that had been your original post, then it would have belonged where you tried to place it. (Minus, of course, the comment about my intelligence, which I am sure you meant sarcastically, judging by your prior posts.)

Elrathin
01-21-2008, 09:30 PM
Indeed, most Americans break the law whenever they see fit. You speed? tailgating? no signal when changing lanes? You've broken the law...cheat on your taxes? You've broken the law. I doubt there isn't a person in the US who hasn't broken one law or another at some time in their lives...but go on and demonize those "illegal" immigrants.....as if you're pure as the driven snow.....:unreal:


The difference is some people break the law true, but they don't do it each and every day for years at a time. An illegal does because each and every day they are here, they are here illegally.

Truth Detector
01-21-2008, 09:35 PM
If that had been your original post, then it would have belonged where you tried to place it. (Minus, of course, the comment about my intelligence, which I am sure you meant sarcastically, judging by your prior posts.)


Contrary to your perceptions of my character, or lack thereof, I am fairly certain of your intelligence.

It might be hard for you to take a compliment, but it was not meant as sarcasim in any way.

AnnEsthesia
01-21-2008, 09:40 PM
If that is truly the case, then thank you.

Truth Detector
01-21-2008, 09:44 PM
If that is truly the case, then thank you.


I go by the name "Truth Detector", I would not lie. You are welcome.

:love:

lily
01-21-2008, 11:21 PM
The Democrats and Left in this country want to change the debate about illegal aliens in this country by re-defining the term. This is a weak effort to demonize their opponents by promoting the idea that those on the OTHER side of the aisle who believe we need to enforce our immigration laws must be "immigrant haters" or "anti immigrant."

Those sneaky BASTARDS!! They changed the term ............and the Republicans haven't caught on??!!!

..........as for the rest of your post........it pretty much says it all right here......we need to enforce our immigration laws. We have enough....they just need to be inforced. Not discussed, not new ones made........but enforced.

PatrickHenry
01-21-2008, 11:23 PM
immigration laws. We have enough....they just need to be inforced. Not discussed, not new ones made........but enforced.

And who carries the enforcement authority in the US?

Why, my goodness, it's the Executive Branch!

BoogyMan
01-22-2008, 12:32 AM
I have to laugh at all the indignant comments on the Illegal ailiens and how they are "breaking the law" and should be punished and raked over the coals for "breaking the law". Indeed, most Americans break the law whenever they see fit. You speed? tailgating? no signal when changing lanes? You've broken the law...cheat on your taxes? You've broken the law. I doubt there isn't a person in the US who hasn't broken one law or another at some time in their lives...but go on and demonize those "illegal" immigrants.....as if you're pure as the driven snow.....:unreal:


You have a fundamental problem with this assessment Potter, and that problem is intent. You are going to have a very hard time proving intent for your scenario of the tailgater or speeder, but it is VERY easy to prove intent for the illegal alien. People don't just accidentally sneak over the border, get a job, and work in the shadows only to wake up one day and BAM! what they have done hits them like a load of bricks.

Alonzo
01-22-2008, 12:46 AM
Indeed, most Americans break the law whenever they see fit. You speed? tailgating? no signal when changing lanes? You've broken the law...cheat on your taxes? You've broken the law. I doubt there isn't a person in the US who hasn't broken one law or another at some time in their lives...but go on and demonize those "illegal" immigrants.....as if you're pure as the driven snow.....:unreal:


The difference is some people break the law true, but they don't do it each and every day for years at a time. An illegal does because each and every day they are here, they are here illegally.


I speed every single day that I drive, which is essentially every day.

People don't just accidentally sneak over the border, get a job, and work in the shadows only to wake up one day and BAM! what they have done hits them like a load of bricks.

Similar scenarios unfold for illegal children who came here with parents.

Elrathin
01-22-2008, 01:36 AM
I speed every single day that I drive, which is essentially every day.

Do you speed 24/7? Nope, didn't think so. An illegal here in this country is breaking the law 24/7 by being here illegally.