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PittsburghAfterDark
08-09-2006, 01:54 AM
You have to hand it to Democrats, they find new ways of losing all the time. Only Democrats could field a winning Democrat from a primary that would eventually lose to another Democrat in the general election.

The McGovernization of the modern Democratic Party is now complete. At no point in the past 34 years have you seen the party driven by a more out of touch driving force than they are right now.

Lieberman loses, vows independent run

By ROBERT TANNER, AP National Writer 33 minutes ago

Three-term Sen. Joe Lieberman fell to anti-war challenger Ned Lamont in Connecticut's Democratic primary Tuesday, the first major election-year test of sentiment over the conflict that has claimed the lives of more than 2,500 U.S. troops in Iraq.

"Tonight we voted for big change," a jubilant Lamont told supporters. Unbowed, Lieberman vowed to fight on, announcing plans to run as an independent this fall.

"Of course I am disappointed by the results, but I am not discouraged," Lieberman said. "For the sake of our state, our country and my party, I cannot and will not let that result stand."

Lamont won with 52 percent of the vote, or 146,061, to 48 percent for Lieberman, with 136,042, with 99 percent of precincts reporting. Turnout was projected at twice the norm for a primary.

Lieberman's loss made him only the fourth incumbent senator to lose a primary since 1980, and came just six years after he was the Democrats' choice for vice president.

Two other incumbents in Congress lost their seats Tuesday.

In Georgia, Rep. Cynthia McKinney, the fiery congresswoman known for her conspiracy theories about the Sept. 11 attacks and a scuffle this year with a U.S. Capitol police officer, lost a runoff for the Democratic nomination.

In Michigan, moderate Republican Rep. Joe Schwarz lost to a conservative in a GOP primary.

Elsewhere, voters in Colorado and Missouri also chose candidates for the fall elections.

The Connecticut Senate race dominated the political landscape, and its outcome promises to echo through the fall. The race was watched closely by the liberal, Internet-savvy Democrats who lead the party's emerging "netroots" movement, groups such as Moveon.org that played a big role in pushing Lamont's candidacy.

Critics targeted Lieberman for his strong support for the Iraq war and for his close ties to President Bush. They played and replayed video of the kiss President Bush planted on Lieberman's cheek after the 2005 State of the Union address.

In the final weeks of the campaign, Lieberman appeared with former President Clinton, Sen. Barbara Boxer (news, bio, voting record) of California and other national Democratic leaders.

Now attention turns to how party leaders will respond: Rally around Lamont? Pressure Lieberman to step down?

Officials said turnout Tuesday was up to 50 percent, when primaries usually only draw 25 percent of voters. Vote totals showed roughly 16,000 more ballots cast for the Democratic Senate primary than the party primary for governor, reflecting the extra attention to the Lieberman-Lamont battle.

In the lead up to the primary, 14,000 new Connecticut voters registered as Democrats, while another 14,000 state voters switched their registration from unaffiliated to Democrat to vote in the primary.

Jubilant Lamont supporters predicted victory in November.

"People are going to look back and say the Bush years started to end in Connecticut," said Avi Green, a volunteer from Boston. "The Republicans are going to look at tonight and realize there's blood in the water."

A week ago, polls showed Lieberman trailing Lamont by 13 percentage points. The latest polls showed the race tightening, with Lamont holding a slight lead of 51 percent to 45 percent over Lieberman among likely Democratic voters, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released Monday.

On the final day of the race, Lieberman accused his opponent's supporters of hacking his campaign Web site and e-mail system. Lamont said he knew nothing about the accusations.

Lamont, the millionaire owner of a cable television company and former Greenwich selectman, will face Republican Alan Schlesinger in the general election.

In Georgia, McKinney, her state's first black congresswoman, lost to Hank Johnson, the black former commissioner of DeKalb County, 58 percent to 41 percent.

In the heavily Democratic district, the runoff winner is likely to win in the fall.

McKinney has long been controversial, once suggesting the Bush administration had advance knowledge of the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks. Her comments helped galvanize opposition and she lost her seat in 2002, but won it again two years ago.

In her latest brouhaha in March, she struck a Capitol Police officer who did not recognize her and tried to stop her from entering a House office building.

A grand jury in Washington declined to indict her, but she was forced to apologize before the House. She drew less than 50 percent of the vote in last month's primary.

In other primaries Tuesday:

? In Michigan, Republican Rep. Joe Schwarz, a moderate who supports abortion rights, lost to conservative Tim Walberg, a former state lawmaker. The race drew more than $1 million from outside groups; Schwarz has received support from President Bush and Arizona Sen. John McCain (news, bio, voting record).

? In Colorado, two open congressional seats have drawn crowds of candidates.

? Missouri Republican Sen. Jim Talent (news, bio, voting record) and Democratic challenger Claire McCaskill, the state auditor, won their party's primaries.
Link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060809/ap_on_el_ge/primary_elections_70)

CheesyMuslim
08-09-2006, 03:17 AM
Sorry bout that,

1. But I hope Joe has to go it alone, but either way Joe won't get no respect for a close race.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

lily
08-09-2006, 04:26 AM
You might want to change the title.:cool:

The Democrats are showing just what they think of both candidates! The power of the vote! Isn't that what people say? If you don't like the way the government is run, use your vote as your voice?

Personally I don't know what Lieberman's problem is. Why is he even bothering running again for the senate, when all he's going to serve is 2 years, before he backs out and runs for president.

BoogyMan
08-09-2006, 05:14 AM
Link Here (http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/shared-blogs/ajc/elections/entries/2006/08/08/mckinney_allege.html)

Shortly after the polls opened on Tuesday, allegations of voting irregularities began appearing on U.S. Rep. Cynthia McKinney?s campaign Web site.

At 8:14 a.m., the first complaint appeared: ?Less than an hour into voting, McKinney?s name is not on ballot, opponent?s is,? read an item on her blog.

Other similar allegations would follow throughout the day as 4th Congressional District voters decided whether to send McKinney back to Congress, or give the Democratic nomination to runoff opponent, Hank Johnson, a lawyer and former DeKalb County commissioner.

The McKinney Web site noted voting machines not working or mysteriously casting incorrect ballots, ?insecure? voting equipment, police harassment, and poll workers refusing to hand out Democratic ballots.

At one campaign stop Tuesday, McKinney said, ?We also had a problem at Midway [elementary school polling place], where my name was not on the ballot,? McKinney said.

?My opponent?s name was on the ballot. ? We are disappointed that the secretary of state?s office has not dealt adequately with these electronic voting machines and the deficiencties. Also, polling places have opened up and some of the machines were not zero-counted out. ? And that is a problem. That is a serious problem.?

Dana Elder, the precinct manager at the school, said there was a power failure around 2:20 p.m. affecting one machine that lists registered voters in the precinct, but it posed no problem because there was another backup machine. The broken machine was fixed within 10 minutes and did not affect the actual voting machines, Elder said.

?It was really nothing,? Elder said.

The Georgia Secretary of State?s Office kept an eye on the elections, with 15 roving monitors on the ground in the 4th District, said spokeswoman Kara Sinkule.

Sinkule noted that the complaints were only coming from the McKinney campaign. ?We are not having voters saying we are having equipment malfunctions,? Sinkule said.

McKinney has always held a distrust of the state?s new touch-screen voting machines. She has appeared at events promoted by activists opposed to electronic voting in Georgia. One of her congressional aides, Richard Searcy, was one of the most outspoken critics of Georgia?s electronic voting platform before taking a job in McKinney?s office.

When McKinney beat out five opponents in the Democratic primary in 2004 to re-claim her congressional seat, she did not question the voting machines? accuracy or the results. On Tuesday, she was anything but silent on the issue.

?Voters should be able to go into the precinct with the assurance that their vote is actually going to be cast, first of all, and counted,? McKinney said Tuesday. ?But at this point we have had voters to tell us the voting machines took several tries before they would actually even cast the correct ballots.?

McKinney made other claims about voting problems but did not elaborate or take questions before disappearing into a truck.

Both local and state elections officials said they are taking McKinney?s allegations seriously. But they were also quick to say many of the complaints were unwarranted.

The DeKalb County elections office released a statement addressing complaints from the McKinney campaign.

In answer to an allegation that a voter tried to vote for McKinney, but the machine popped up a vote for Johnson, the office said:

?Upon investigation by the manager, it was determined while the one candidates?s name was touched by the ball of the finger, the fingernail hit the name,? the statement read. ?We do not expect voters to cut their nails to vote, but we are cautioning everyone to make certain they are satisfied with their choices before they hit the ?cast ballot? button.?

?We don?t have a problem addressing any claims that they have,? said Linda Lattimore, head of elections for DeKalb County, where much of the 4th Congressional District lies. ?We?ll investigate and respond to each claim.?

The statement from Lattimore?s office addressed other issues raised by the McKinney campaign, claiming they were immediately rectified when brought to officials? attention.

Some voters who wanted to vote in the runoff did not realize congressional lines were redrawn by the state Legislature in 2005, Lattimore said. So some voters accustomed to voting in the 4th District were perplexed at not being able to do so.

Lattimore said some voters who were told to wait while a poll worker investigated a problem misinterpreted it as being turned away from the polls. ?We ask a voter to wait a second and suddenly [they think] we turn them away.?

Gads.....

Drocket
08-09-2006, 06:41 AM
Personally I don't know what Lieberman's problem is. Why is he even bothering running again for the senate, when all he's going to serve is 2 years, before he backs out and runs for president.

His hope of ever being a serious presidential canidate are over now anyway. He couldn't even manage to get the Democratic voters to let him keep a job that he's held for 18 years: there's no way in hell that he's ever going to convince them to give him the presidential nod (not that there was a chance of that happening even if he won - in 2004, he was in a 3-way tie for 3rd place in his home state, with about 5% of the vote, an absolutely -AWFUL- result. Even complete screwball canidates who have never held office in their life often get 10% in their home state. His 2004 presidential bid should have been a clear sign of things to come, had he been paying any attention at all.)

Also, Lieberman would NOT resign from his office to run for president. If you'll remember, in 2000 when he was the VP canidate (how the mighty have fallen...), he stayed in his Senate race despite the fact that custom very strongly dictates that he step out from that race. Lieberman always chooses the safest and easiest (and most publicly visible...) path - another large part of the reason why he is where he is now.

PittsburghAfterDark
08-09-2006, 07:52 AM
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And in true McKinney fashion, her and hers slug the media.

McKinney Supporters, Media Scuffle

Outgoing Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney returned to her campaign headquarters to address her supporters after midnight Tuesday, soon after some of her staffers scuffled with news photographers.

During her concession speech, McKinney said her mother was hurt and one of her staffers required stitches after members of the media hurt them during the night. Police were eventually called to the scene by 11Alive News.

As McKinney walked outside her campaign headquarters after losing her reelection bid to Hank Johnson, a boom microphone carried by a photographer struck members of McKinney's entourage. In the confusion, McKinney staffers struck an 11Alive photographer and knocked his camera equipment to the ground.

A short time later, the 11Alive news desk called 9-1-1 after some people followed an 11Alive staff member into the station's satellite truck outside the McKinney headquarters.

Earlier Tuesday, a McKinney staffer scuffled with another 11Alive photojournalist, who videotaped as McKinney supporters waved some signs while the Congresswoman remained in her vehicle.

McKinney's staffers asked photographers to keep their distance -- which they did -- until McKinney rolled down her window and motioned to a reporter. The photographers approached, thinking she was about to give an on-camera interview.

At that point, a staffer again got between the vehicle and blocked the 11Alive photographer.

"That's right, and I'll touch you again, if you do it again," the staffer told 11Alive.

McKinney campaign chief John Evans vowed to investigate the earlier incident.
Link (http://www.11alive.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=83138)

Rider
08-09-2006, 01:37 PM
Congress doesn't do a whole lot of good, but at least it could be entertaining. Now we won't even have that. Damn.

Rider
08-09-2006, 01:46 PM
Although complaints like this from the McKinney campaign aren't worth a bucket of warm spit, we really need to insist on equipment that leaves a paper trail for verification. Most of the precincts I've voted in use paper ballots and dark lead pencils that are extremely hard to erase without leaving some evidence. they are counted by readers and can be recounted quickly and easily.
There's a very nasty trend developing where Democrats do their best to invalidate elections that don't go their way, and if unsuccessful, work to undermine confidence in the electoral system.

CheesyMuslim
08-09-2006, 02:00 PM
Sorry bout that,

1. But Joe didn't tow the Party Line to well.
2. That's why he's gone.
3. Will he do much as an Independent?
4. Nope.
5. Would he have a better chance if he came over to the Republican Party?
6. Yes.
7. Joe should think long and hard before he runs as an Independent.
8. Now McKinney is gone, and we can only hope that she stays gone.
9. She is the kind of person that's bad for America.
10 And she represents a faction of people who are not either.
11. I think she's Muslim.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

CheesyMuslim
08-09-2006, 02:22 PM
Sorry bout that,

1. But she's pulling a Gore/Kerry.
2. No surprise there.
3. She's cut from the same cloth.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

lily
08-10-2006, 01:48 AM
Drocket



Also, Lieberman would NOT resign from his office to run for president. If you'll remember, in 2000 when he was the VP canidate (how the mighty have fallen...), he stayed in his Senate race despite the fact that custom very strongly dictates that he step out from that race.

I forgot about that. Thanks for the reminder!

lily
08-10-2006, 01:51 AM
Sorry bout that,

1. But she's pulling a Gore/Kerry.
2. No surprise there.
3. She's cut from the same cloth.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas


Actually, so is Lieverman in a way.....if he doesn't get the votes the first time, he'l try again.

Rider
08-10-2006, 02:36 AM
Well, Lily - not really. What he is doing is perfectly legal and above board. He's not trying to undermine an election result. He has a perfect right to run as an independent as long as he meets all of the legal requirements. It looks like he has done that. Whatever you think about Lieberman's politics, he's a class act.

Bama
08-10-2006, 08:01 AM
McKinney Voting Irregularite::: Eat more fiber. It may not help her but will help all of us as she is a ' Pain In The Butt.'

Sidewinder
08-10-2006, 09:29 AM
Sorry bout that,

8. Now McKinney is gone, and we can only hope that she stays gone.


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas


General concensus here is that she will (at least in congress.) She could run for other elective office, but her machine isn't powerful enough to make much difference even is a state wide election. And Ga. is a Republican state.

Rider
08-10-2006, 09:34 PM
I wish that she had won. It's not likely that her replacement will vote any differently and she was a constant embarassment to her party.