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AmericanDreamer
01-19-2008, 06:57 AM
Why does Obama admire a Republican, rather than a Democrat? Can a Democrat give this country a sense of clarity, optimism, and dynamism that Obama mentions in the video? Shouldn't Obama have mentioned a Democrat instead of a Republican in his example of bringing change to this country?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaoYD7iZG9w

ViolaLee
01-19-2008, 07:05 AM
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Elrathin
01-19-2008, 10:33 AM
Shouldn't Obama have mentioned a Democrat instead of a Republican in his example of bringing change to this country?



Why should he have? He respects a past president, what is so wrong with that? Should he be purposely partisan?

Are we so divisive a nation now that one side HAS to hate the other just because of the name? I'm sure some think so, but I do not. Good for Obama. It shows a willingness to work with everyone.

preservanation
01-19-2008, 11:31 AM
Obama is a lib and will bring higher taxes and bigger gov.
There is no policy difference between any of the dem candidates.
It is all personality, class=warfare, racism and sexism on the left....that is what the Dems have always relied on and this election is no different

Pookie
01-19-2008, 11:44 AM
It is all personality, class=warfare, racism and sexism on the left....that is what the Dems have always relied on and this election is no different

How are Democrats/liberals so racist and sexist, as you say, and why are we the only party in this election to have a female and an African-American man running?

I would think Obama could admire anyone he wanted to. Reagan isn't a bad choice. I bet if Obama had said he admired a Democrat somebody would have asked why he didn't admire any Republicans.

Purrs,
Pookie

preservanation
01-19-2008, 11:58 AM
Yeah, and they the DNC at the behest of Hillary are attacking Obama on the basis of race.
There is no policy difference and that's all they got.
Plus they are very good at it.
The irony is now they are going after one of their own.
The vast right-wing conspiracy is on the outside looking in...and laughing it's ass off!

AmericanDreamer
01-19-2008, 01:35 PM
Shouldn't Obama have mentioned a Democrat instead of a Republican in his example of bringing change to this country?



Why should he have? He respects a past president, what is so wrong with that? Should he be purposely partisan?

Are we so divisive a nation now that one side HAS to hate the other just because of the name? I'm sure some think so, but I do not. Good for Obama. It shows a willingness to work with everyone.

Yes, he has the right to choose. Christ, he could admire Santa Clause for that matter! I just wonder if he will lose some votes because he publicly chose a Republican to admire. What do you think?

AlanC
01-19-2008, 01:49 PM
He won't lose any votes because of it. The other Dems are already slamming him for the remark, but it won't have any traction and their criticism may backfire on them.

Buck Laser
01-19-2008, 02:44 PM
It's interesting to me that the attacks, such as they are, on Obama have come not from the Clinton supporters here, but from people who have very clearly right wing agendas. They are people who seem to relish making unsupportable generalizations--even on ignore, it's impossible to miss Preserves and his "libs this... and libs that.." statements.

While I personally waste little time admiring Reagan, a great many people do, including a fair number of my fellow democrats. His presidency certainly marked a change in the tone if not the substance of an administration, and Obama is totally correct that his election would mark a radical change in the tone of an administration.

As to whether or not Obama is comparing himself to Reagan, I think it's self-evident that he isn't--although people incapable of understanding analogy or subtlety will take it as that. As I've said before, I have a great deal more faith in the people as a whole to understand what's actually happening than either the media or republican politicians realize. I think this will become increasingly apparent as we move through this election year.

preservanation
01-19-2008, 03:25 PM
Libs, IMO are the true racists in American politics.
They say they support blacks as long as they depend on them, stay on the plantation and "yes massa" all over the place, but once a black challenges their power and birthright like Obama is to the Clintons...out comes the whip.

The Dems are the ones who are obsessed with the differences among us and look at everything through the lens of race and sex.
Not me.

Elrathin
01-19-2008, 03:25 PM
I just wonder if he will lose some votes because he publicly chose a Republican to admire. What do you think?


I answered that already if you read my post. I don't think he will lose votes because it shows a willingness to work with others.

And as I said before why is it BAD for a Dem to admire a Republican? Is there some law against that. I know some partisan scumbags on the right that think so, but to hell with them.

preservanation
01-19-2008, 03:40 PM
When Obama supports tax cuts for all Americans, smaller gov and free-market capitalism and the belief in American exceptionalism over his stated socialist policies, I'll listen to the comparisons of him to a conservative. Same with the Republican front runners.
Until then, I find it offensive and pandering.
Redefining a rock-solid ideology to suit ones own political agenda to get votes is insulting and a lie.

It would be like me stating that the new liberalism favors abstinence over abortion.
It's not true

ViolaLee
01-19-2008, 03:47 PM
I just wonder if he will lose some votes because he publicly chose a Republican to admire. What do you think?


I answered that already if you read my post. I don't think he will lose votes because it shows a willingness to work with others.

And as I said before why is it BAD for a Dem to admire a Republican? Is there some law against that. I know some partisan scumbags on the right that think so, but to hell with them.
Right on El.

What a stupid issue this is.

preservanation
01-19-2008, 03:50 PM
Obama=Reagan
Huckabee=Reagan
McCain =Reagan
Gulliani=Reagan
Romney=Reagan
Shiit=Shinola.

lily
01-19-2008, 11:32 PM
Obama=Reagan
Huckabee=Reagan
McCain =Reagan
Gulliani=Reagan
Romney=Reagan
Shiit=Shinola.



Preservation.........how does saying you admire someone turn into equals?[hr]
Libs, IMO are the true racists in American politics.
They say they support blacks as long as they depend on them, stay on the plantation and "yes massa" all over the place, but once a black challenges their power and birthright like Obama is to the Clintons...out comes the whip.

The Dems are the ones who are obsessed with the differences among us and look at everything through the lens of race and sex.
Not me.


From the sounds of it........it seems it's you who thinks Obama is getting too uppity. It wasn't Clinton who had anything to say about race, though he did turn the few little sentences into something it wasn't........it still didn't have anything to do with race, as you are claiming.

ViolaLee
01-20-2008, 02:01 AM
Should Barack Obama Admire a Democrat Instead of a Republican?

How can this question even be taken seriously?

I think he can admire anyone he damn well wants to admire. Meanwhile, the OP has the story all wrong, on purpose? All Obama said was Reagan changed the trajectory of the country, Nixon did not, Clinton did not, it was because the country was ready for it.

I wish the idiots of the world would stop lying about what the candidates say.

Watch for yourselves.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP1esS0AEzk

micfranklin
01-20-2008, 02:16 AM
Obama can admire whoever the hell he wants.

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