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AlonzoMourning23
01-19-2008, 04:00 AM
McCain cheated on his first wife with a younger woman and it ended up leading to divorce, yet this seems to be a non issue with conservatives. Why is that? Why aren't the pro-family people denouncing him? Giuliani, Clinton, Kerry (rumored affair) etc. all were issues, why does McCain get a free pass?

Mark L Hamburger
01-19-2008, 04:10 AM
Because he's a war-mongering, Vienam veteran, neo-con, and it will mean a third-term of Bush. We all know how much they like THAT guy.

lily
01-19-2008, 04:54 AM
McCain cheated on his first wife with a younger woman and it ended up leading to divorce,

I didn't know that. I guess you learn something new everyday!

AlonzoMourning23
01-19-2008, 05:00 AM
McCain was still married and living with his wife in 1979 while, according to The New York Times' Nicholas Kristof, "aggressively courting a 25-year-old woman who was as beautiful as she was rich." McCain divorced his wife, who had raised their three children while he was imprisoned in Vietnam, then launched his political career with his new wife's family money.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2006/0607.benen.html

Pookie
01-19-2008, 05:03 AM
It's rather quiet because the press hasn't gotten around to blowing it out of context yet and splashing it all over the media.
Purrs,
Pookie

ViolaLee
01-19-2008, 06:17 AM
Why was George H W Bush's affair with Jennifer Fitzgerald kept under wraps?

I guess that liberal media only outs their own huh?

Elrathin
01-19-2008, 10:48 AM
It's rather quiet because the press hasn't gotten around to blowing it out of context yet and splashing it all over the media.
Purrs,
Pookie


I think you have a point Pookie. They aren't wasting the time if he doesn't get the nomination. If he does, I bet it will become an issue real quick.

preservanation
01-19-2008, 11:23 AM
McCain is crazy and will destroy the conservative movement if elected.
Partisanship is good!
This man is a mole for the libs.

AlanC
01-19-2008, 01:39 PM
His adultery is a non-issue because he is a non-issue. McCain votes with the democrats and frustrates the republicans often enough to be the media's ideal of what a "good" republican should be.

They have no interest in bringing him down and so they ignore his skeletons and periodic break downs as though they did not happen. McCain's only viability is in states that allow non-republicans a say in picking a republican candidate. Without independants and democrats, he would have finished third in New Hampshire.

preservanation
01-19-2008, 02:16 PM
I agree AlanC.
The press is ignoring it because they don't want to actually run against a conservative....See Huckabee.
The list of things that conservatives Hate about McCain is very long and there is no need to focus on peripheral issues like this.

1) Opposed Bush tax-cuts-stridently
2) McCain/Feingold, took money out of politics? Uhhhhh, yeah. Not to mention restricting free political speech which is the corner-stone of our democracy and floored me that Bush didn't veto it and the Supremes even considered it remotely Constitutional.
3) Gang of Fourteen??? Remember?
4)McCain/Kennedy?
5)Lieberman/McCain
6) The list goes on....

This man is a shill and a phony baloney politician who cares more about settling scores and siding with libs to further his own personal brand.
McCain is a Conservative like pookie hates cats.

THOMPSON!
Dammit!

AlanC
01-19-2008, 02:28 PM
Unfortunately, Thompson got into the race to see if he couldn't outmanuver Romney and Guliani in capturing the evangelical and deep conservative vote. Huckabee has flat stolen his wind.

With Hucakbee doing so much better than Thompson, I don't see Thompson lasting much longer than next Tuesday.

When he drops out, I see most of his support going to Romney. If he has any evagelicals at all, they obviously don't like Huckabee and his non-religous conservatives probably won't go there either.

preservanation
01-19-2008, 03:47 PM
Unfortunately, AC....you have a good read.
If Thompson doesn't do well in SC (20+%) he might have to go.
His votes will probably go to Romney, like you say. That's OK with me.
I would take Romney over Huck of McCain any day.
However I'm not happy.
The GOP can do better.

Keith Hamburger
01-19-2008, 05:15 PM
In regards to the OP, perhaps they are just happy that the affair was with a woman given the recent record of conservative dalliances.

Keith

ViolaLee
01-19-2008, 06:16 PM
HAHAHA Keith, good point.

lily
01-20-2008, 02:20 AM
McCain was still married and living with his wife in 1979 while, according to The New York Times' Nicholas Kristof, "aggressively courting a 25-year-old woman who was as beautiful as she was rich." McCain divorced his wife, who had raised their three children while he was imprisoned in Vietnam, then launched his political career with his new wife's family money.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2006/0607.benen.html


:lmao: Zo, man I love you!

But it wasn't until 2000 that McCain, possibly emboldened by Clinton's survival of his scandals, became the first confessed adulterer to have the nerve to run. [hr]With the way the right hates McCain and the left hates Hillary.....I think it would be funny to see these two in the primairies.....there's a lot of people who would be changing their tune, so they could stay with their party line.

micfranklin
01-23-2008, 04:16 PM
Everyone seems to be for either McCain or Romney, even the media, and thus they won't bother to mudsling at him.

Pookie
01-23-2008, 06:55 PM
Bah. It's because that goon Michael Moore hasn't gotten hold of the details and blown it up into another movie.
LOL! I really think it's much ado about nothing. Reagan was divorced, Clinton got lucky (?) with Monica Lewinsky, and as the election year drags on, more poo like this will be dragged up.
Such are politics!
Purrs,
Pookie

preservanation
01-24-2008, 12:01 PM
No matter who the GOP nominee is the libs and the press are waiting in the wings with truck-loads of bricks to drop on him.
They want the weakest candidate and don't want to queer his chances by firing all their guns at once.
They are saving the good stuff for the General election.
If anyone believes that the press or moderates will support any GOP nominee over Hillary or Obama they don't know reality and has not been paying attention.

AnnEsthesia
01-24-2008, 12:32 PM
lol... and the Republicans, were it the Dem party that had caused all this mess, would not do the EXACT same thing? Give me a break, Biggie P.

lawless168
01-24-2008, 02:24 PM
I didn't think the conservatives favor McCain last I checked. As for Kerry, I guess I didn’t know about his affair.

preservanation
01-25-2008, 01:47 PM
Trust me, Conservatives *hate* McCain, for tons of reasons I have listed before, not just one or two like the media would have you believe.
The ones voting for McCain are one issue voters (war on terror), moderate Reps, and Independents.
Once conservatives start voting in these primaries, watch his support drop to nothing.
Point of interest...McCain got a Less % of the vote in SC than he did in 2000, and the press described that at his Waterloo and this new one a victory?
Odd

cronic
01-25-2008, 10:50 PM
It's rather quiet because the press hasn't gotten around to blowing it out of context yet and splashing it all over the media.
Purrs,
Pookie


I think you have a point Pookie. They aren't wasting the time if he doesn't get the nomination. If he does, I bet it will become an issue real quick.


Thats what I was gonna say.. it's there.. and if needed.. it will rear its ugly head!!!.. When the time is right!!!

lily
01-26-2008, 03:01 AM
I don't know.......I've been giving this question a lot of thought and I really think it's not an issue is because he paid his "dues" in the 2000 election with the black baby comment and the like.

AlanC
01-26-2008, 05:39 AM
You do know that no one ever came up with the name of anyone who recieved one of the so called Black Baby calls?

That story has hung around even though it has never been verified.

lily
01-27-2008, 04:20 AM
Alan, I never said anything about phone calls. Rumors spread and get out of control.

AlanC
01-27-2008, 04:43 AM
Lily, if I remember right, it was an accusation that someone was making those robo calls and alleging that McCain was the father of a black baby. The inference was always that it was the Bush campaign.

The Bush campaign denied it and even released the text of all of their automated calls which was actually unheard of at the time.

Then there was an investigation and a huge attempt to determine who had made the calls. As it turned out they were unable to ever determine that any calls had been made to spread that rumor.

The bottom line of it all was that the only source anyone knows of for sure is when the McCain campaign complained about it. That seems to be the first anyone had ever heard of it.

lily
01-27-2008, 04:49 AM
Alan......you're not suggesting that with the lead McCain had before he went into NC, that he started the rumor himself? Yes, I know about the phone calls and the denial. I didn't know that Bush released all the text......which doesn't mean it didn't come from an independent source. It's such a Rovian tactic.......but as I said, just the hint of a rumor is all that was needed needed.

AlanC
01-27-2008, 04:56 AM
No, I'm only saying that a pretty intense look at it could not find any source to the rumor or any verification even as to how it may have been started.

Actually, in SC I would think that would have helped McCain more than anything else.

Look at what happened to Hillary there today. I honestly think Bill did her a lot of harm with the race baiting he has been doing on her behalf.

Pretty soon they are going to remove his honorary black president title. :evil:

Torrid
01-27-2008, 05:02 AM
McCain cheated on his first wife with a younger woman and it ended up leading to divorce, yet this seems to be a non issue with conservatives. Why is that? Why aren't the pro-family people denouncing him? Giuliani, Clinton, Kerry (rumored affair) etc. all were issues, why does McCain get a free pass?


I don't know why it would be an issue for them as I can't see how a true conservative could vote for him. He's not a conservative.

lily
01-27-2008, 05:09 AM
Actually, in SC I would think that would have helped McCain more than anything else.


Oh, I don't think so. Being a Black candidate in 2008 is a lot different than saying in 2000 you fathered an illigetimate black baby.

Look at what happened to Hillary there today. I honestly think Bill did her a lot of harm with the race baiting he has been doing on her behalf.

Oh no.......we're agreeing again.......I do have a reputation to keep up you know! Now the million dollar question will be, will he let it go or will he be on the talk shows tomorrow making excuses and saying that it's all Obama's fault for saying she wasn't there campaigning and she won't be here when you need her? I can't believe he's not smart enough to listen when people have told him to let up on the negative.

Pretty soon they are going to remove his honorary black president title. :evil:

:lmao:

AlanC
01-27-2008, 07:55 PM
The more stature Obama gains and the more of a threat he becomes, the greater the attacks will be.

To tell you the truth, I am tired of hearing mud slinging from spouses and surrogates. I think Bill, Mrs. Obama, Mrs. Edwards, McCain's mother should all stay quiet unless they want to talk about the positives of their particular spouse, parent or son.

There seems to be a feeling that any negative is okay as long as the candidate themselves don't say it. I do think the average voter can see through that screen.

Amazed
02-24-2008, 10:31 PM
Lily, if I remember right, it was an accusation that someone was making those robo calls and alleging that McCain was the father of a black baby. The inference was always that it was the Bush campaign.

The Bush campaign denied it and even released the text of all of their automated calls which was actually unheard of at the time.

Then there was an investigation and a huge attempt to determine who had made the calls. As it turned out they were unable to ever determine that any calls had been made to spread that rumor.

The bottom line of it all was that the only source anyone knows of for sure is when the McCain campaign complained about it. That seems to be the first anyone had ever heard of it.




http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/401/index.html

AlanC
02-25-2008, 05:37 AM
That link says nothing about the subject of my post, unless I missed it.

Amazed
02-25-2008, 05:43 AM
That link says nothing about the subject of my post, unless I missed it.


You have to watch the video.