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DANG
01-12-2008, 01:18 AM
Great article in Columbus Free Press (http://www.freepress.org/columns/display/5/2008/1626)Norman Solomon

Edwards reconsidered
January 4, 2008

There have been good reasons not to support John Edwards for president. For years, his foreign-policy outlook has been a hodgepodge of insights and dangerous conventional wisdom; his health-care prescriptions have not taken the leap to single payer; and all told, from a progressive standpoint, his positions have been inferior to those of Dennis Kucinich.

But Edwards was the most improved presidential candidate of 2007. He sharpened his attacks on corporate power and honed his calls for economic justice. He laid down a clear position against nuclear power. He explicitly challenged the power of the insurance industry and the pharmaceutical giants.

And he improved his position on Iraq to the point that, in an interview with the New York Times at the start of January, he said: "The continued occupation of Iraq undermines everything America has to do to reestablish ourselves as a country that should be followed, that should be a leader." Later in the interview, Edwards added: "I would plan to have all combat troops out of Iraq at the end of nine to ten months, certainly within the first year."

Now, apparently, Edwards is one of three people with a chance to become the Democratic presidential nominee this year. If so, he would be the most progressive Democrat to top the national ticket in more than half a century.

The main causes of John Edwards’ biggest problems with the media establishment have been tied in with his firm stands for economic justice instead of corporate power.

Keep reading (http://www.freepress.org/columns/display/5/2008/1626)...

underdawg
01-12-2008, 01:22 AM
Edwards is still the one I plan to support during our Washington Caucus next month. Obama is my second choice.

lily
01-12-2008, 01:55 AM
Edwards is looking better and better. He's the only candidate that has recognized that there are poor and a dying middle class in America.[/i]

Buck Laser
01-12-2008, 03:42 AM
I really like Edwards, and I'd be VERY happy to see him win the nomination, but he doesn't grab me the way Obama does.

I've been around through a good many presidential elections, and something is happening in this one that I've never seen happen before. The democrats are the party with the "big tent" this time, not the republicans. So far as I can see, most of the democrats here are willing to support the party's nominee, regardless of who that may be.

Some conservatives have tried to cast doubt--Hillary is too shrill, Obama is a crypto-muslim, Edwards is gay, yada, yada, yada. The funny thing is that the republicans are over there taking shots at each other. It's like the old Polish firing squad joke: a candidate stands in the middle while all the others stand in a circle shooting at him but hitting each other instead.

Meanwhile, the democrats seem to have avoided lobbing bombs at their colleagues. I s'pose it's too good to last, but I'm gonna enjoy it while I can.

lily
01-12-2008, 04:04 AM
I've been around through a good many presidential elections, and something is happening in this one that I've never seen happen before. The democrats are the party with the "big tent" this time, not the republicans. So far as I can see, most of the democrats here are willing to support the party's nominee, regardless of who that may be.

I don't know Buck.....I don't think I could support Clinton. In fact as has been mentioned on other threads, she's the only one left on the ballot here in Michigan and I'm going to have to think long and hard if I'm going to vote for Paul or vote uncommitted and see where the Democrat party ends up. So far, it's uncommitted......I still can't get out of my mind those papers and think that he can't do what he is saying he can do...........but all we're seeing here is Republican ads. The way the DNC played it, they may lose all of Michigan.

Mark L Hamburger
01-12-2008, 05:09 AM
I still can't get out of my mind those papers and think that he can't do what he is saying he can do


Well, think about it this way, he's never actually said anything racist nor done anything racist.

As for being able to get the things he want's to get done done, I think he has a good shot at getting a lot of it accomplished. Some of the things will require the support of congress, which may be a little harder to do, but I haven't heard many of his peers say anything bad about him as a congressman, and a good many like him. It shouldn't be too hard for him to get the support he needs.

DANG
01-12-2008, 05:15 AM
I dont like Clinton. Shes a warhawk and a neo-con.

I dont like Obama either, when we needed one senator to join The Congressional Black Caucus to challenge the election fraud in Ohio... Obama's first vote as a junior Senator, was to ignore the FRAUD. The fraud was very obvious and involved large scale disenfranchisement of Black Americans in Democratic districts.
SHAME on Obama. It took a white woman to join them in the fight against republican racist corruption. My Senator Barbara Boxer rolled up her sleeves and fought the fight that Obama didnt have the stones to fight. Fúck Obama.

John Edwards embraces my values. He will put an end to corporate ownership of our white house. He is the smartest of the 3 candidates. Trial lawyers are the smartest people in the world. Obama speaks in lofty platitudes and generalities. Edwards has layed out exactly what he will do.

Hillary will have us in Iraq forever.
Edwards will have us out in a year.

lily
01-13-2008, 02:56 AM
I still can't get out of my mind those papers and think that he can't do what he is saying he can do


Well, think about it this way, he's never actually said anything racist nor done anything racist.

As for being able to get the things he want's to get done done, I think he has a good shot at getting a lot of it accomplished. Some of the things will require the support of congress, which may be a little harder to do, but I haven't heard many of his peers say anything bad about him as a congressman, and a good many like him. It shouldn't be too hard for him to get the support he needs.



Mark.........I think that may be the saniest Ron Paul endosement I've read. You have me thinking, since I can't vote for who I really want to.......I've got until Tuesday to decide if I'm going to waste my vote as uncommitted.