Should Russia launch a preemptive strike against USA?

[December]

Well, we know what US is doing in the world - America bombs one country after another and tell the countries that they do it for the sake of freedom and democracy....

So the USA is pissing on other contries and tell them that it's raining..... Sure....

And now the USA plans to build an anti-missile base in POLAND (right next to Russia's border) and the excuse is - We just want protection from NORTH Korea. Well, if this is the case than why not build a base in SOUTH Korea? Right?

It seems like the US leaders think that they are very clever and everyone else is stupid.

Well, what should Russia do in this case? Wait for USA to bomb Russian cities in the name of democracy?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6BCoBGdvyiQ

[PatrickHenry]

Preemptive/preventive war is illegal and very risky.

The Russkies should sit tight and maybe US policies will change.

Attacking a warlike nation with a powerful military and nukes on submarines wouldn't be wise.

[Matt W]

Actually, I was pretty sure the base was in the Czech Republic and it was to protect the US and allies from threats in the ME. Of course, I could well be wrong. :ponder:

As for Russia launching a pre-emptive strike, I really can't see it happening. Russia's oligarchs are far too enamoured of the wealth and potential economic development that the USA and the West can provide - although they will strictly oppose any attempts to influence their politics or zones of influence. Any military action would be a ridiculous step and wipe out their lifestyle as the retaliatory strikes from around the world kicked in...and would leave them battered, bruised, and facing China all on their lonesome. Perhaps not...

[December]

Attacking a warlike nation with a powerful military and nukes on submarines wouldn't be wise.


The USA is very volnarable right now. The US (Zionist) government spread its army all over the globe and US dollar is going down big time.
I think it's unique oppotunity for the WHOLE WORLD to get rid of Zionists once and for all.

The USA is hated in the whole world so I am sure many countries will support Russia. They will fight with their bare hands against Zionist America.

[PatrickHenry]

Good luck with the "bare hands" thang.

I'll take a weapon any day...the more powerful, the better.

[jafar00]

Russia should not do the same thing the US has done illegally with pre-emptive warfare. As Patrick said, perhaps things will change in the US, and the coming election is the best opportunity to make a difference so we hope you don't let the opportunity pass you by.
As for hating the US? That's a little inaccurate. I for one feel pity and sorrow for the situation the US has gotten itself into. Hate the govt of the US? Hell Yeah, but I don't believe for a second that the average American Joe believes in what is being done in his name for a second. I know, some do and well, those rednecks can go sign up for the army and get their limbs and heads blown off for all I care, but I like to believe that most Americans are decent people. You only have to look at the amount of private charitable donations to see the size of compassion in the country.

[December]

As Patrick said, perhaps things will change in the US, and the coming election is the best opportunity to make a difference so we hope you don't let the opportunity pass you by.

Check the record, Jafar00, - no matter what party American president represents, he ALWAYS does what Zionists tell him to do.

The USA still doesn't want to revoke the Jackson-Vanik amendment which was past during the Cold War in 1974.

That amendment prohibits ANY TRADE with the Soviet Union, the country which is long gone. So according to the american law it is illegal to do business with country which does not exist. :D :D

Does it mean that Russia can export its goods to US? No, it doesn't.
Why? Well, it's all because of the Jackson-Vanik amendment.
Logic! :D

According to the 1974 Trade Act of the United States, the Jackson-Vanik amendment, named for its major co-sponsors, Sen. Henry "Scoop" Jackson (D-WA) and Rep. Charles Vanik (D-OH), denied most favored nation to certain countries with non-market economies that restricted emigration rights.

In 1972 as the Cold War and the ongoing Arab-Israeli conflict were intensifying, the regime of Leonid Brezhnev imposed the so-called "diploma tax" on would-be emigrants who received a higher education in the USSR. While the professed justification for this tax was to repay state expenses for public education, this measure was designed to combat the brain drain caused by the growing emigration of Soviet Jews and other members of the intelligentsia to the West. In some cases, the fee was as high as 20 times the emigrant's annual salary.

This development caused international protests. Twenty-one United States Nobel Laureates issued a public statement condemning it as a "massive violation of human rights." The Kremlin soon revoked the tax but imposed additional limitations, effectively choking off emigration, even for family reunification. A case could languish for years in the OVIR (ОВиÐ*) department of the MVD. An often-cited but rarely explained official ground for the refusal to issue an emigration visa were "national security reasons."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackson-Vanik_amendment


Russia should not do the same thing the US has done illegally with pre-emptive warfare.

So you suggest that Russia should let Americans (Pentagon) build the anti-missile base right next to Russia's border and then sit and wait for US to bomb the Russian cities?
Russia is practically surrounded by the NATO bases already...

http://www.russiablog.org/nato_russia_missiles-map-sm.jpg

[K-D-K-D-K]

The war in Iraq was and is a just war. The reason for that is Saddam defied 17 resolutions and would not comply with them. The solution was to take his regime out. Case closed and as for the other poster above who suggested that the US has benn bombing one country after another, I would like to know which countries they are.

[Matt W]

The USA is very volnarable right now. The US (Zionist) government spread its army all over the globe and US dollar is going down big time.
I think it's unique oppotunity for the WHOLE WORLD to get rid of Zionists once and for all.

The USA is hated in the whole world so I am sure many countries will support Russia. They will fight with their bare hands against Zionist America.


Rubbish. The USA's standing has gone down dramatically, that is certain, but to suggest the whole world will support a pre-emptive strike by Russia, of all people, is hallucinatory at best.

Europe, for starters, will no doubt throw their weight in...have you forgotten that NATO still exists? And, according to said treaty, 'an attack against one member is considered an attack against all'? That clause has only been invoked once - against Afghanistan - but you can bet that it'll be acted upon in the event of Russia trying it on. So, you're guaranteed a war on two fronts at the very least. Don't forget Turkey's a member too, so there goes the Black Sea refineries.

Secondly, you appear to have forgotten about China. Again. Tell me, what does a rapidly expanding industrial economy need in the middle of a population boom? Raw materials, perhaps? Like those just sitting over their northern border? What's the bets that realpolitik kicks in and China is given a go-ahead to do a land grab in the event of a Russian assault? Hell, the Americans will probably stand by and let them take Taiwan, too, if it gets serious.

Sooo...so far, out of this 'whole world' just dying to back Russia taking on the USA, your only viable allies appear to be a few Arab states, possibly some of the South Americans....vs NATO, China, and quite possibly some of the old USSR & Iron Curtain states who'd love to get a few kicks in whilst you're down. Are you sure you don't want to swap?

[December]

Rubbish. The USA's standing has gone down dramatically, that is certain, but to suggest the whole world will support a pre-emptive strike by Russia, of all people, is hallucinatory at best.

Rubbish? I don't think so.
The only reason Zionist America terrorize the whole world is just because it knows that this is the only way to prolong its (USA) existence.

If Russia will nuke Washington DC then the whole world will through American dollars into trash dumbter. Practically the whole world is angry at US and many countries are looking for the ways to get rid of everything that has anything to do with America.
One European country has made up its mind already:

Belarus leader Lukashenko threatens to "kick out" U.S. ambassador
30/ 12/ 2007

MINSK, December 30 (RIA Novosti) - Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko threatened U.S. ambassador Karen Stewart with expulsion from the country should Washington introduce new sanctions against the republic.
Stewart said in mid-December new economic sanctions which would be added to the existing restrictions could be imposed against Belarusian state-run companies.

http://en.rian.ru/world/20071230/94894946.html


And that will be only the beginning.

The second step is American Revolution.
American people are sick and tired of all that bull sh*t that they have to go through in daily life and listen to lies from media and politicians.

[Pookie]

Belarus? Oh, goodness, what a scary thought.
Russians aren't that stupid to do something as foolish as to launch a preemptive strike on the US. Not even that former KGB goon Putin would try that.
I don't see this happening at all.
Purs,
Pookie

[Matt W]

Rubbish? I don't think so.
The only reason Zionist America terrorize the whole world is just because it knows that this is the only way to prolong its (USA) existence.

If Russia will nuke Washington DC then the whole world will through American dollars into trash dumbter. Practically the whole world is angry at US and many countries are looking for the ways to get rid of everything that has anything to do with America.
One European country has made up its mind already:

Belarus leader Lukashenko threatens to "kick out" U.S. ambassador
30/ 12/ 2007

MINSK, December 30 (RIA Novosti) - Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko threatened U.S. ambassador Karen Stewart with expulsion from the country should Washington introduce new sanctions against the republic.
Stewart said in mid-December new economic sanctions which would be added to the existing restrictions could be imposed against Belarusian state-run companies.

http://en.rian.ru/world/20071230/94894946.html


And that will be only the beginning.

The second step is American Revolution.
American people are sick and tired of all that bull sh*t that they have to go through in daily life and listen to lies from media and politicians.


No, you wouldn't. However, once more, you're ignoring my points. I am not an American citizen, and I have little fondness for the current American administration. It's fairly easy to gauge public opinion on this side of the Atlantic - pre-emptive nuclear war by Russia would send their popularity (which isn't that great at the best of times) down the toilet, and activate a shedload of international treaties aimed at preventing that very action.

Is Belarus in NATO? Nope. Tell me, how are your relations with Georgia? Or the Ukraine? Or Poland? Or Estonia?

Do tell...

[apdst]

The war in Iraq was and is a just war. The reason for that is Saddam defied 17 resolutions and would not comply with them.

Not to mention that Saddam illegally invaded two sovreign nations, raping, killing and gassing several million civilians; pillaging those same countries. Invading Iraq is as illegal as stealing money from a drug dealer.

Russia invade The United States? I can't see it happening. I'm sure the Russians have watched Red Dawn.

[PatrickHenry]

Red Dawn?

How old are you anyway? Heh...

Iraq is another of Uncle's illegal wars.

I find it amusing how some Americans refuse to see that not everything their Uncle does is legal or even a good idea...

[Truth_and_Power]

Rubbish. The USA's standing has gone down dramatically, that is certain, but to suggest the whole world will support a pre-emptive strike by Russia, of all people, is hallucinatory at best.

Rubbish? I don't think so.
The only reason Zionist America terrorize the whole world is just because it knows that this is the only way to prolong its (USA) existence.

If Russia will nuke Washington DC then the whole world will through American dollars into trash dumbter. Practically the whole world is angry at US and many countries are looking for the ways to get rid of everything that has anything to do with America.
One European country has made up its mind already:

Belarus leader Lukashenko threatens to "kick out" U.S. ambassador
30/ 12/ 2007

MINSK, December 30 (RIA Novosti) - Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko threatened U.S. ambassador Karen Stewart with expulsion from the country should Washington introduce new sanctions against the republic.
Stewart said in mid-December new economic sanctions which would be added to the existing restrictions could be imposed against Belarusian state-run companies.

http://en.rian.ru/world/20071230/94894946.html


And that will be only the beginning.

The second step is American Revolution.
American people are sick and tired of all that bull sh*t that they have to go through in daily life and listen to lies from media and politicians.



Funny that you think corruption and power abuse begins and ends with america's government. The upside of russia nuking washington DC would be the end of your posts along with the rest of those coming from major russian cities.

[dgun]

Should Russia launch a preemptive strike against USA?

Only if they want to get their ass kicked. Our military and arsenal is far superior.

[AmericanDreamer]

This question is similiar to:

"Should the Pope get an abortion before he gets pregnant?":innocent:

this is a very silly hypothetical question. But, in an insane world, if this were actually viable, then my answer would be: No, because it would disrupt the New World Order that both countries have an interest in.

[brien]

Should Russia launch a preemptive strike against USA?

Anyone who thinks that Russia could make nuclear surgical strikes against the US, as only upon DC, is just not thinking at all.

There is no such thing as a pre-emptive strike in a nuclear exchange between the US and Russia. If Russia launched ICBM's toward the US, the US would immediately retaliate and the "assured mutual destruction" would begin. The resulting nuclear destruction and nuclear winter would solve global warming immediately and the planet would probably cease to exist as we know it. It is almost certain human beings would perish as the dinosaurs did a few million years ago when a asteroid most likely struck the earth and created a nuclear winter from the resulting collision.

[apdst]

How old are you anyway? Heh...

I just turned 39 and I don't recall getting a present from you, so you better tighten up...LOL!

Only if they want to get their ass kicked. Our military and arsenal is far superior.

Not to mention that we have the most heavily armed population in the history of The World. Can you imagine the Russians getting into a turf war with the Crips and the Bloods?

I can hear it now: "Heeeeeeyyyyy, you fish egg eatin' mufukka. This is owa fawkkin cawnna."

[moses2792796]

They should do it just for giggles.