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preservanation
12-28-2007, 10:38 AM
Many would categorize Fred as a moderate Conservative, but he is way more conservative than other liberal GOP candidates leading the pack.
His support of McCain/Feingold is troubling to me...but it was in a different form than what was passed.

For those who say Thomson has no position on anything are dead wrong and are victims of their own ignorance. You know who you are...maybe.

Roe v. Wade was bad law and bad science. (Jun 2007)
Appoint strict constructionist judges. (Jun 2007)
Has never been pro-choice despite 1994 news reports. (Jun 2007)
Voted YES on maintaining ban on Military Base Abortions. (Jun 2000)
Voted YES on banning partial birth abortions. (Oct 1999)
Voted YES on banning human cloning. (Feb 1998)

Voted YES on prioritizing national debt reduction below tax cuts. (Apr 2000)
Voted NO on 1998 GOP budget. (May 1997)
Voted YES on Balanced-budget constitutional amendment. (Mar 1997)

Voted NO on adding sexual orientation to definition of hate crimes. (Jun 2002)
Voted NO on loosening restrictions on cell phone wiretapping. (Oct 2001)
Voted NO on expanding hate crimes to include sexual orientation. (Jun 2000)
Voted NO on setting aside 10% of highway funds for minorities & women. (Mar 1998)
Voted NO on ending special funding for minority & women-owned business. (Oct 1997)
Voted YES on prohibiting same-sex marriage. (Sep 1996)
Voted NO on prohibiting job discrimination by sexual orientation. (Sep 1996)
Voted YES on Amendment to prohibit flag burning. (Dec 1995)

Voted YES on Educational Savings Accounts. (Mar 2000)
Voted YES on allowing more flexibility in federal school rules. (Mar 1999)
Voted YES on education savings accounts. (Jun 1998)
Voted YES on school vouchers in DC. (Sep 1997)
Voted YES on $75M for abstinence education. (Jul 1996)

Solar system is warming, not earth. (Apr 2007)
Voted YES on drilling ANWR on national security grounds. (Apr 2002)
Voted YES on terminating CAFE standards within 15 months. (Mar 2002)
Voted YES on preserving budget for ANWR oil drilling. (Apr 2000)
Voted NO on ending discussion of CAFE fuel efficiency standards. (Sep 1999)
Voted YES on defunding renewable and solar energy. (Jun 1999)

I would do essentially what the president's doing in Iraq. (Jun 2007)
Take any chance to not get run out of Iraq. (Jun 2007)
Internationalizing war effort will not win the war. (Jun 2007)
President must decide on war based on unclear evidence. (Jun 2007)
Prophets of doom are wrong--we can't cut-and-run. (Jun 2007)
Goal of Iraqi enemies is to demoralize us. (Jun 2007)
Serious & painful international sanctions on nuclear Iran. (Jun 2007)
Voted YES on authorizing use of military force against Iraq. (Oct 2002)
Voted YES on allowing all necessary force in Kosovo. (May 1999)
Voted NO on authorizing air strikes in Kosovo. (Mar 1999)
Voted YES on ending the Bosnian arms embargo. (Jul 1995)
Condemns anti-Muslim bigotry in name of anti-terrorism. (Oct 2001)
Move the US Embassy to Jerusalem. (Nov 1995) I do not agree with all of his votes but he represents conservative views much more than the other lefties running.
I didn't post all his votes and positions... http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Fred_Thompson.htm
But to those who say his record is nonexistent, need only go there to be proven irresponsibly in error.[hr]Thompson says,
"We need to reject taxes that punish rather than reward success. Those who say they want a "more progressive" tax system should be asked one question: Are you really interested in tax rates that benefit the economy and raise revenue--or are you interested in redistributing income for political reasons?"

"In fact, Treasury statistics show that tax revenues have soared and the budget deficit has been shrinking faster than even the optimists projected. Since the first tax cuts were passed, when I was in the Senate, the budget deficit has been cut in half."

"Critics claimed that across-the-board tax cuts were some sort of gift to the rich but, on the contrary, the wealthy are paying a greater percentage of the national bill than ever before. The richest 1% of Americans now pays 35% of all income taxes. The top 10% pay more taxes than the bottom 60%. Because of lower rates, money is being invested in our economy instead of being sheltered from the taxman."

Keith Hamburger
12-28-2007, 03:15 PM
So, Thompson is a conservative in the truest, literal sense of the word.

Maintain the status quo no matter what.

Sorry, that doesn't float my boat, I'm not much of a supporter of the status quo.

But, at least you've done what very few have to date, posted some actual positions.

Keith

Truth_and_Power
12-28-2007, 05:28 PM
"In fact, Treasury statistics show that tax revenues have soared and the budget deficit has been shrinking faster than even the optimists projected. Since the first tax cuts were passed, when I was in the Senate, the budget deficit has been cut in half."


What a joke. Look at the real deficit when you take in the secret 'steal from me' fund of the social security trust. The budget deficits have barely decreased.

preservanation
12-29-2007, 02:54 AM
T and P, you continue to confuse "deficit" with "revenue".
I'm sorry I can't help you anymore, it is up to you now...[hr]
So, Thompson is a conservative in the truest, literal sense of the word.

Maintain the status quo no matter what.

Sorry, that doesn't float my boat, I'm not much of a supporter of the status quo.

But, at least you've done what very few have to date, posted some actual positions.

Keith
Thanks Keith.
I'm not maintaining that Fred is the quintessential Conservative.
All I'm saying is that he approaches what I believe much closer than any of those lily-livered candidates on the stage.

Keith Hamburger
12-29-2007, 03:24 AM
Thanks Keith.
I'm not maintaining that Fred is the quintessential Conservative.
All I'm saying is that he approaches what I believe much closer than any of those lily-livered candidates on the stage.


I hope you're not including all candidates in that comment. There is at least one candidate that will stand up and state what he believes and the reason he believes it, votes be damned.

And he seems to be holding his own fairly well doing it.

It's obvious you don't believe in freedom in the same way I do. As I've stated before, I think that when anyone says "I believe in freedom, but ...", everything before the but is a lie.

But, I guess you know what you stand for and I'm glad you've found a candidate that you agree with.

Keith

preservanation
12-29-2007, 03:32 AM
May I assume you are refering to Paul?[hr]I'm serious about Thomson, Dammit!
All you libs get out there and vote for him...you bastards!

Conservatives too, you bastards!

preservanation
12-29-2007, 01:21 PM
Thomson...
"This has led some people, not necessarily scientists, to wonder if Mars and Jupiter, non-signatories to the Kyoto Treaty, are actually inhabited by alien SUV-driving industrialists who run their air-conditioning at 60 degrees and refuse to recycle.

Silly, I know, but I wonder what all those planets, dwarf planets and moons in our SOLAR system have in common. Solar? I wonder. Nah, the science is absolutely decided. There's a consensus. Ask Galileo. "
LOL!

My kind of guy...

Chris
12-29-2007, 02:46 PM
What really is a "Conservative" anyway? Is it a requirement to deny global warming to be in the "Conservative club"?

I think the person with the best "conservative" ideals is Ron Paul.

Do a side by side comparison.

AlonzoMourning23
12-29-2007, 02:49 PM
Maybe he is a good choice for republicans. Could be an even better choice for democrats, he seems too lazy to truly campaign.

Silly, I know, but I wonder what all those planets, dwarf planets and moons in our SOLAR system have in common. Solar? I wonder. Nah, the science is absolutely decided. There's a consensus. Ask Galileo. "
LOL!

My kind of guy...

True conservative, thinks little has changed in 500 years with regards to anything except terrorism.

Lazarus
12-30-2007, 05:48 AM
For Thompson being the only " conservative " left, he seems to be suffering from a dearth of support.

To him, and all conservative POTUS wannabes; I say good riddance.

Conservatism is dead for the next few POTUS election cycles.

preservanation
12-30-2007, 11:25 AM
Fred has a goo d chance of picking up support by default as more people become dissatisfied with the current crop of front runners.
He just doesn't seem to want it very much.
Too bad, I think he is the best chance to get this nation back on track.

preservanation
12-30-2007, 01:10 PM
I feel that the words spoken from both Ron Paul and Fred Thompson have the clear tone of self belief. Very important.

Hasn't Fred learned that a candidate can be more favorable if he/she spends time and money bashing on other candidates opposed to discussing the issues? Silly man.