Somethin' Fishy Goin' on Hyar

[ClayBarham]

I saw Hillary Clinton’s Christmas ad on television the other night. She was wrapping packages and identifying many of the gifts she is promising Americans, if they would simply vote for her. The wrappings were in gold, which means gold from the government treasury, of course. It reminded me of the old adage, “If you give a man a fish you feed him for the day.” Hillary will give away things people need that others, who already have them, will pay for, less the commissions needed to pay for the further growth of bureaucracy to distribute those gifts. In other words, we will need millions of minor Santa Claus civil servant post office types handing out the fish. Of course, we can all see a time when there are no more fish to catch, as they will be harvested faster than they can grow back.

The rest of that adage said, “If you teach a man to fish, you feed him for life.” That’s not what the Democrats want to do. The result of that are people who will be independent of the Santa Claus brigades from Washington. Independent people spell Republican to them, and they cannot tolerate it. Individual freedom is a threat to the power the democrats want to gather to themselves. Individual freedom means individual and family prosperity, followed by prosperity for communities closest to the individual. This would be an outright challenge to the power they work so hard to gain, so their elite can sit atop Mount Olympus like the gods they see themselves, ruling what was once the richest nation in the world. Bill can be Nero. Hillary can be Caligula. He can play his saxophone while the nation dries up. She can gather around her applauding sycophants to reassure her of her intelligence and wisdom.

As to the fish, they will have to hide from the broad nets of our government. They will have to swim to other shores to avoid the Santa Claus brigades as they sweep the oceans for every minnow as Hillary’s gifts to the Democrats who voted for her. Of course, I am speaking of the wealth produced so well by a free people, which is why America has been the target of world envy since it stood apart from it in freedom. The individual who thinks out of the bubble and lives out of the box, who creates, invents, produces and distributes products, services and ideas that change things for the better, and is rewarded for it, is caught up, along with his property, in the Santa nets for redistribution. There will be no new businesses to hire new people and grow toward prosperity. Hillary’s great Christmas party in 2008 will bring about a new America, not dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal, but to the proposition of equality of outcome. This is her greatest promise, her best gift to us. It may only smell fishy while there are fish to catch.

[Fishingriver]

The thing I like the most about Hillary is that she scares the bee jabbers out of conservatives. I suspect it is because they fear a woman could be elected. That is why the hate campaign against Hillary never really criticises her policies. Instead it is all based on the way she looks, or bad recycled jokes, or insulting names.
My first choice in the primaries is John Edwards but after that I will likely vote for Hillary if she is nominated. I don't like her all that much but the fact that she scares Republicans and represents the equality that the GOP love to hate is making her look better all the time.

[ClayBarham]

Yeah, guess you are right about the woman thing, although it is confusing when you see how much the conservatives liked M. Thatcher and appreciate C. Rice, although Rice might be an African-American thing. But, you know best how these conservatives just want women shrouded in their bhurkas head-to-toe, barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen, so they can have their beer parties uninterrupted by anything feminine....although they have a lot of women conservatives????

[Buck Laser]

The thing I like the most about Hillary is that she scares the bee jabbers out of conservatives. I suspect it is because they fear a woman could be elected. That is why the hate campaign against Hillary never really criticises her policies. Instead it is all based on the way she looks, or bad recycled jokes, or insulting names.
My first choice in the primaries is John Edwards but after that I will likely vote for Hillary if she is nominated. I don't like her all that much but the fact that she scares Republicans and represents the equality that the GOP love to hate is making her look better all the time.

Well put, Fishingriver. It seems to me that most of Hillary's opponents get to a state of hysteria almost immediately, and consider that remarks about fat thighs constitute sound reasoning on why not to vote for her. Or they drag up the old shit about the "mysterious deaths."

While Hillary's not my first choice, I can certainly support her enthusiastically if she wins the nomination. My wife and I are Obama supporters, while my daughter supports Hillary and my son Edwards. I respect their reasoning in each case. Further, I think the majority of democrats feel more or less that way--we have an abundance of good candidates for next year's election.

[PatrickHenry]

Why do you title a thread in a misleading way, Clay?

This is just another of your antiDemocrat rants.

I think you need to examine your own honesty and title your threads more accurately.

One more thing...just because Hillary is the Devil doesn't make the Republican nominee a saint...

[Pookie]

This is going to get a whole lot more interesting before anything is decided, Clay, so you might just want to sit tight and wait it out. Take a look at the Republican wannabes and you'll see what I mean.
Then there's the wild card, Ron Paul.
Happy Election 2008!
Purrs,
Pookie

[ClayBarham]

I could add that the fish stinks from its head, but we're not sure whether it is Hillary's or Bill's, as we are to entertain both as co-presidents. Hillary's certainly got the experience to be president, what with her trips around the world and her politicking. She really need not know anything about managing a super-corporation, budgets, diplomacy (she hasn't got much beyond her temper), and dealing with people, her subordinates, her equals and her betters....you can forget about that part, because there are no equals or betters for her to deal with. I kinda think, with the way the world is and the way our internal operations are going, the Democrats want a person to learn on the job anyway, and she has enough IOU's to pay, she'll have no trouble finding people to do the job for her, those we won't elect, of course.

[Fishingriver]

Clay wrote- She really need not know anything about managing a super-corporation, budgets, diplomacy (she hasn't got much beyond her temper), and dealing with people


No offense, but this is precisely what I was talking about before.
Criticisms of Hillary are not based on her record, or her positions or any facts. All you have is fictional smear designed to influence non-thinking people emotionally. It worries me that simply disliking a candidate is more important to you guys than understanding who might be your president. I can only conclude from all this hogwash that you are afraid of Hillary Clinton. You guys can't come out and say it, but powerful women scare you. [/quote]

[ClayBarham]

OK, what executive experience can she claim, of making decisions on who does what, when and where, and the results, of spending money, of accountability, all the things that, for example, Guiliani, Romney, Huckabee and Rchardson had to do running a government? I believe, when most people lose their temper, it is because they are not immediately capable or experienced at controlling situations. Would you want a temperamental general in a wartime situation, or one who can stand with the troops under fire making cool decisions, like Patton and MacArthur. Now, you may not like these two examples if you are a liberal, but I prefer someone who can dish it out without flying off the handle as Hillary has adequately demonstrated. Throwing pots and pans does not measure up to making decisions under fire. This is what a president may have to do. OJT is not going to help America in these times.