Interview with people in Qana

[Alonzo]

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/scp_v3/viewer/index.php?pid=16598&rn=49750&cl=648082&ch=49799&src=

Just skip the commercial at the beginning.

It includes comments from a man who was inside the building where over 60 civilians died. But the main reason this caught my attention was the response of one man (begins speaking one minute and 10 seconds into it) who, instead of calling for the killing of Israeli's, held out an olive branch to the Israeli people.

[PittsburghAfterDark]

That's really great that a survivors where Hezbollah staged the death of 60 "civillians" produced such a touching thought.... :rolleyes:

[Alonzo]

I can't remember the last time civilians got killed that the hard right didn't try to spin it as some staged event designed to make america/Israel look bad.

Let me guess, Hezbollah buried bodies in there, cut up a bunch of them into pieces (which is all most of them were) and then detonated a bomb to blow up the building? Oh ya, they also got a bunch of people to pretend they were there and make up some sad story.

Why should you care anyway? They're just little Eichmanns, right?

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. But if you wage a War within civilian populations, then civilians will get killed.
2. There shouldn't be any surprise there.
3. There is no one safe in Lebanon.
4. All could be gone tomorrow.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[PittsburghAfterDark]

I guess it never occured to you that dead Muslim babies are worth more to Hezbollah than dead Jewish babies.

Of course not.

You don't think.Â*Â*You also believe terrorist propaganda.

I'm not about to post the pictures of Hezbollah actually holding up dead children for all the world to see like a morbid billboard but you know, they do it. These are the images the world outside America see. (http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2006/07/milking-it.html)

This is the PR war they fight and you lap up like a hungry kitten at a milk dish. You're so eager to believe that people can't act inhuman like this to further their goals, yet they do.

You're such a sucker zo. You're the ideal mark for terrorist PR. You've purchased the bridge and swamp from them and you're seriously considering writing out a check for Grant's Tomb.

[Alonzo]

PAD, there's a reason why palestinians and lebanese rush camera's to film their dead and injured, and it's the same reason Israeli's do it after every suicide bombing. You don't even wait for Israel to deny such things, you just automatically assume they aren't in the wrong.

Name one action taken by Israel, it's military etc. that was wrong because it was excessive, cruel etc. But first I'll do the same for Hezbollah: firing weapons into towns that are just as likely to hit civilians as anything else. Your turn.

[PittsburghAfterDark]

You NEVER see Israeli rescue workers parade around dead children for hours making sure every pool photographer sees the body.

Never.

I don't question the Israelis in this instance. They're calling people to tell them to evacuate. They're dropping leaflets. They're broadcasting targets to be hit. They're bending over backwards to minimize civillian casualties by any stretch of the imagination and moreso than any country in any conflict in history.

As impressive and accurate as our bombing in Baghdad was during the two Gulf Wars in minimizing collateral damage and using the minimum force to take out high value targets the Israelis are going further than we ever did. That's the mark of a "civilized" war if I ever saw such an oxymoron.

Why do I need to point out that Israel was excessive or cruel? They're the ones defending themselves. The burden is not on them morally. It's on the aggressor force.

This whole thing is like a rape story. The West and liberals, like you, are blaming Israel for kicking a guy in the balls and stabbing him after an attempted rape and bitching about an excessive response. Forgetting the fact that he wouldn't have had his testicles punted by a forceful foot and that extra hole in his anatomy wouldn't have been there had he not attempted an immoral and illegal act.

Can Israel do no wrong? No. Have they yet? No.

[Alonzo]

So, PAD, israel has never acted with excessive force or in an incorrect way involving the use of force (not counting restraint)?

[PittsburghAfterDark]

Stay on topic.

This is your thread and now that you're painted in a corner you want to expand the issue to the entirety of Israeli history.

Sorry, won't be baited.

[Alonzo]

PAD, both sides make sure the media covers their tragedies. It's a little different though when you are in a war zone, or have poor services, and when you have first rate emergency services like in Israel.

And besides, you are spouting off some conspiracy theory, one that neither Israel and the u.s. have been arguing, one that has no hard evidence. Then you attack me for not always assuming that every bad thing is committed by Hezbollah, Hamas etc., it's as if Israel, the u.s. etc. are never responsible. I think the question I asked regarding excessive force is entirely valid.