Nissan donates to Lebanese victims

[Alonzo]

TOKYO, July 31 (Reuters) - Japanese car maker Nissan Motor Co. <7201.T> said on Monday it would donate $200,000 to help displaced victims of the conflict in Lebanon, the ancestral home of Chief Executive Carlos Ghosn.

Companies often pledge aid in humanitarian crises such as earthquakes and other natural disasters, but rarely when it involves a politically charged environment such as the current conflict between Israel and Hizbollah militants.

Ghosn, who also heads Nissan's partner Renault SA <RENA.PA>, is a naturalised Frenchman born in Brazil, but spent his formative years in Lebanon. Both Ghosn's parents are of Lebanese descent.

A Nissan official said the latest decision was initiated by the company's Corporate Citizenship Team, which concluded that the social impact of the conflict in Lebanon warranted the aid, especially because it involved a significant number of children.

All initiatives are ultimately signed off by the CEO.

"We recognise that there may be some level of risk in making donations when the situation is political, but from the standpoint of corporate social responsibility, we concluded that this was a just cause," the official said.

Japan's second-biggest auto maker said the money would be donated to organisations that specifically assist refugees.

Nissan has been the most aggressive among Japanese auto makers in pursuing growth in the small but promising Middle East car market.

Many Lebanese have been displaced by the fighting between Israel and the Hizbollah guerrilla group. In the deadliest single attack in the 19-day-old conflict, the Israeli army on Sunday bombed the southern Lebanese village of Qana, killing at least 60 people -- mostly women and children.

The war has so far killed well over 500 people in Lebanon and 51 Israelis.

The latest conflict between the long-time adversaries erupted after Hizbollah seized two Israeli soldiers on July 12.


http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/T207820.htm

Wonder how long before they start being condemned for supporting terrorists.

[dsanthony]

TOKYO, July 31 (Reuters) - Japanese car maker Nissan Motor Co. <7201.T> said on Monday it would donate $200,000 to help displaced victims of the conflict in Lebanon, the ancestral home of Chief Executive Carlos Ghosn.

Companies often pledge aid in humanitarian crises such as earthquakes and other natural disasters, but rarely when it involves a politically charged environment such as the current conflict between Israel and Hizbollah militants.

Ghosn, who also heads Nissan's partner Renault SA <RENA.PA>, is a naturalised Frenchman born in Brazil, but spent his formative years in Lebanon. Both Ghosn's parents are of Lebanese descent.

A Nissan official said the latest decision was initiated by the company's Corporate Citizenship Team, which concluded that the social impact of the conflict in Lebanon warranted the aid, especially because it involved a significant number of children.

All initiatives are ultimately signed off by the CEO.

"We recognise that there may be some level of risk in making donations when the situation is political, but from the standpoint of corporate social responsibility, we concluded that this was a just cause," the official said.

Japan's second-biggest auto maker said the money would be donated to organisations that specifically assist refugees.

Nissan has been the most aggressive among Japanese auto makers in pursuing growth in the small but promising Middle East car market.

Many Lebanese have been displaced by the fighting between Israel and the Hizbollah guerrilla group. In the deadliest single attack in the 19-day-old conflict, the Israeli army on Sunday bombed the southern Lebanese village of Qana, killing at least 60 people -- mostly women and children.

The war has so far killed well over 500 people in Lebanon and 51 Israelis.

The latest conflict between the long-time adversaries erupted after Hizbollah seized two Israeli soldiers on July 12.


http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/T207820.htm

Wonder how long before they start being condemned for supporting terrorists.


You should know I and others will call you on lies. The US govt is also sending humanitarian aid to the Lebanese refugees. You know that.

It makes your case even weaker when you spout lies and half truths.

[Churchel]

TOKYO, July 31 (Reuters) - Japanese car maker Nissan Motor Co. <7201.T> said on Monday it would donate $200,000 to help displaced victims of the conflict in Lebanon, the ancestral home of Chief Executive Carlos Ghosn.

Companies often pledge aid in humanitarian crises such as earthquakes and other natural disasters, but rarely when it involves a politically charged environment such as the current conflict between Israel and Hizbollah militants.

Ghosn, who also heads Nissan's partner Renault SA <RENA.PA>, is a naturalised Frenchman born in Brazil, but spent his formative years in Lebanon. Both Ghosn's parents are of Lebanese descent.

A Nissan official said the latest decision was initiated by the company's Corporate Citizenship Team, which concluded that the social impact of the conflict in Lebanon warranted the aid, especially because it involved a significant number of children.

All initiatives are ultimately signed off by the CEO.

"We recognise that there may be some level of risk in making donations when the situation is political, but from the standpoint of corporate social responsibility, we concluded that this was a just cause," the official said.

Japan's second-biggest auto maker said the money would be donated to organisations that specifically assist refugees.

Nissan has been the most aggressive among Japanese auto makers in pursuing growth in the small but promising Middle East car market.

Many Lebanese have been displaced by the fighting between Israel and the Hizbollah guerrilla group. In the deadliest single attack in the 19-day-old conflict, the Israeli army on Sunday bombed the southern Lebanese village of Qana, killing at least 60 people -- mostly women and children.

The war has so far killed well over 500 people in Lebanon and 51 Israelis.

The latest conflict between the long-time adversaries erupted after Hizbollah seized two Israeli soldiers on July 12.


http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/T207820.htm

Wonder how long before they start being condemned for supporting terrorists.


You should know I and others will call you on lies.Â*Â*The US govt is also sending humanitarian aid to the Lebanese refugees.Â*Â*You know that.

It makes your case even weaker when you spout lies and half truths.


So how is zo lying? Because our government is also sending aid? Your logic makes no sense.

[BoogyMan]

So how is zo lying?Â*Â*Because our government is also sending aid?Â*Â*Your logic makes no sense.

I think the issue comes in when zo refuses to make distinction between honest innocent Lebanese who are displaced by the fighting and the useless piece of trash waste of skin Hizbollah terrorists.

[dsanthony]

So how is zo lying?Â*Â*Because our government is also sending aid?Â*Â*Your logic makes no sense.

I think the issue comes in when zo refuses to make distinction between honest innocent Lebanese who are displaced by the fighting and the useless piece of trash waste of skin Hizbollah terrorists.


He recognizes the difference. His lie is saying that Bush, Repubs and others don't. "Racists" is the card he's playing.

[BoogyMan]

Zat true Zo?

[Alonzo]

He recognizes the difference.Â*Â*His lie is saying that Bush, Repubs and others don't.Â*Â*"Racists" is the card he's playing.


Actually, racist is something I rarely accuse people of. PAD and chess represent about half the people I've ever called racist online. It's a term I only use when it is extremely blatant, and after multiple incidents. I may think someones a racist, but it takes a lot for me to actually use that term.

It's absurd to read into it as much as you do. My point is that some do not make such a distinction. Nowhere did I mention it as all republicans or bush does not recognize civilians. But conservatives like Nathan and Chess on here do not make such distinctions. If this article were posted on a site like free republic you'd get many more who fail to distinguish the difference. I'd do it myself if I wasn't banned from there.

[BoogyMan]

Actually, racist is something I rarely accuse people of. PAD and chess represent about half the people I've ever called racist online. It's a term I only use when it is extremely blatant, and after multiple incidents. I may think someones a racist, but it takes a lot for me to actually use that term.

It's absurd to read into it as much as you do. My point is that some do not make such a distinction. Nowhere did I mention it as all republicans or bush does not recognize civilians. But conservatives like Nathan and Chess on here do not make such distinctions. If this article were posted on a site like free republic you'd get many more who fail to distinguish the difference. I'd do it myself if I wasn't banned from there.


Zo, your having made the above rebuttal to dsanthony's commentary lets my initial commentary as previously posted stand:

I think the issue comes in when zo refuses to make distinction between honest innocent Lebanese who are displaced by the fighting and the useless piece of trash waste of skin Hizbollah terrorists.

What say you, Zo?

[Alonzo]

I have repeatedly condemned attacks on civilians, on both sides. I have condemned the initiation and escalation of conflict. I have not denounced any attacks on Hezbollah fighters or Israeli soldiers, other than in the context of the risk they place to civilians. I have made a clear distinction between combatants and everyone else.

[BoogyMan]

I have repeatedly condemned attacks on civilians, on both sides. I have condemned the initiation and escalation of conflict. I have not denounced any attacks on Hezbollah fighters or Israeli soldiers, other than in the context of the risk they place to civilians. I have made a clear distinction between combatants and everyone else.


That is *EXACTLY* the problem Zo.Â*Â*You refuse to make a distinctionÂ*Â*between Lebanese citizens and Hezbollah.Â*Â*I personally remember you talking about how benevolent Hezbollah was and denouncing hitting public works run by the terrorist organization.Â*Â*You condemn the attacks but *REFUSE* to make the distinction that because of Hezbollahs despicable tactics of hiding behind the skirts of women and in the homes of children civilians die.

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. But all's fair in Love and War.
2. Let them hide amongst non combatants.
3. They both will be killed thou.
4. This is what happens when you crowd civilians in with terrorists.
5. If thats what this people want, then that's what they will always get.
6. We can't change this.
7. If they fight hidden within the civilian population, they do expect and realize that they will get civilians killed.
8. Everyone with even half a brian can figure this out.
9. Look what the Hezbos are doing, launching rockets randomly into Israel.
10. This is an outrage, and is like playing Russian roulette.
11. They are attempting to target anyone, and everyone, who ever that they hit, they hit them randomly.
12. Terror.
13. Let them come out as a standing army, I saw them marching in uniforms, on tv before the War started.
14. Let them all gather together and try to defeat Israel, away from the public, for the public good.
15. Let them not hide behind the UN and the babies, let them be men.
16. Israel will fight fair, but if those in Lebanon wish not to , other non combatants will die.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[Alonzo]

That is *EXACTLY* the problem Zo. You refuse to make a distinction between Lebanese citizens and Hezbollah.

Reading comprehension is a must:

I have repeatedly condemned attacks on civilians, on both sides. I have condemned the initiation and escalation of conflict. I have not denounced any attacks on Hezbollah fighters or Israeli soldiers, other than in the context of the risk they place to civilians. I have made a clear distinction between combatants and everyone else.

You condemn the attacks but *REFUSE* to make the distinction that because of Hezbollahs despicable tactics of hiding behind the skirts of women and in the homes of children civilians die.

The nature of guerilla warfare is to blend into the population. Americans, vietnamese etc. have done it in their history. The intentional placing of civilians at risk to hide yourself (instead of simply blending into the civilian population) is to be condemned, though I'm sure we dispute how often that happens. But, at the same time, disregard for civilian lives is also to be condemned. Both sides are guilty of that.

I personally remember you talking about how benevolent Hezbollah was

Did it go something like this?

But the attack that resulted in the capture of Israeli soldiers by hezbollah was unprovoked and completely uncalled for.

http://www.democracyforums.com/showthread.php?tid=862&pid=6637#pid6637

Or like this?

They're not good by any means. As a military group they've served their purpose, they are nothing but a danger to everyone in their reach. They attack unprovoked.

http://www.democracyforums.com/showthread.php?tid=777&pid=6421#pid6421

Or maybe it was this one?

I've said they shouldn't have done it and it was unprovoked.

http://www.democracyforums.com/showthread.php?tid=862&pid=6404#pid6404

and denouncing hitting public works run by the terrorist organization.

Of course I'm going to denounce hitting hospitals, schools, orphanages etc., why shouldn't I? That's only going to harm the civilian population. The reason they dominate those things is because the government does not have the means to provide those services.

The massive scale of the attacks, and percieved total disregard for civilians and civilian services, has lead to support for hezbollah skyrocketing. The initial anger at them has been overwhelmed by anger at Israel, and anger at the u.s. for refusing to do anything when its well within their power.

[dsanthony]

He recognizes the difference.Â*Â*His lie is saying that Bush, Repubs and others don't.Â*Â*"Racists" is the card he's playing.


Actually, racist is something I rarely accuse people of. PAD and chess represent about half the people I've ever called racist online. It's a term I only use when it is extremely blatant, and after multiple incidents. I may think someones a racist, but it takes a lot for me to actually use that term.

It's absurd to read into it as much as you do. My point is that some do not make such a distinction. Nowhere did I mention it as all republicans or bush does not recognize civilians. But conservatives like Nathan and Chess on here do not make such distinctions. If this article were posted on a site like free republic you'd get many more who fail to distinguish the difference. I'd do it myself if I wasn't banned from there.


Do you have any honesty? You were saying blatantly that Repubs would soon be saying that Nissan, or anyone else, who sends humanitarian aid to the Lebanese people would be condemned for aiding terrorism. THOSE were YOUR words. I called you on them.

Your John Kerry shuffle is in good form. Too bad you Dens can't win elections with someone like me pointing out your half-truths and outright lies.

[Alonzo]

Do you have any honesty?Â*Â*You were saying blatantly that Repubs would soon be saying that Nissan, or anyone else, who sends humanitarian aid to the Lebanese people would be condemned for aiding terrorism.Â*Â*THOSE were YOUR words.Â*Â*I called you on them.


These are my words, notice the lack of the term "republican" or any equivalent:

Wonder how long before they start being condemned for supporting terrorists.

So what is it, are you a liar or do you lack reading comprehension?

[dsanthony]

Do you have any honesty?Â*Â*You were saying blatantly that Repubs would soon be saying that Nissan, or anyone else, who sends humanitarian aid to the Lebanese people would be condemned for aiding terrorism.Â*Â*THOSE were YOUR words.Â*Â*I called you on them.


These are my words, notice the lack of the term "republican" or any equivalent:

Wonder how long before they start being condemned for supporting terrorists.

So what is it, are you a liar or do you lack reading comprehension?


No, you're a liar. I can read the sub text of your post. I'm sure you're versed in that greatest of Liberal evils, deconstruction. YOU know and I know that you were saying Repubs and conservatives would be denouncing anyone who aided the Lebanese. You are so deep in your dogmatic lies that you cannot/will not tell the truth.

[Alonzo]

I can read the sub text of your post.

First off, subtext isn't blatant, so right there you are a liar (or you don't understand the meaning of the word). I explained exactly what I meant a few posts up. And, second, is it any wonder you react this way when you rely on what the voices in your head tell you I think, rather than my own text?

[BoogyMan]

Zo, you talk in circles. When someone calls you on it you deny it. Then you go right back to talking is circles. You have circled back on yourself more than John Kerry did in the 2004 elections.

Maybe you were against Hizbollah BEFORE you became a terrorist sympathizer?

[Alonzo]

boogey, I have repeatedly condemned hezbollah's unprovoke attack. I have repeatedly condemned attacks on civilians. I have never stated all conservatives or republicans have a uniform opinion (and have made comments against that).

You have difficulty actually presenting evidence when you attempt to call me on things. You also seem to think in absolutes (ie. the belief the Musharaf should be dealt with the same way as Hitler), while I see everything as a shade of grey.

[BoogyMan]

boogey, I have repeatedly condemned hezbollah's unprovoke attack. I have repeatedly condemned attacks on civilians. I have never stated all conservatives or republicans have a uniform opinion (and have made comments against that).

You have difficulty actually presenting evidence when you attempt to call me on things. You also seem to think in absolutes (ie. the belief the Musharaf should be dealt with the same way as Hitler), while I see everything as a shade of grey.Â*Â*


Hahahaha. The evidence is all over the place, everytime you post.

You also seem to attribute a comment about Musharaf to me that I have never made. You seem to simply have a problem with truth, where have I ever posted anything about Musharaf?

[Alonzo]

My mistake. I tend to confuse you and mayberry.

Hahahaha. The evidence is all over the place, everytime you post.


Yet you have such a hard time presenting it.

[BoogyMan]

Yet you have such a hard time presenting it.


You being someone who sees himself coming and going in the mirror of his own flip-flop idealogies, I could see how you would think that 'Zo.