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December
12-23-2007, 08:01 PM
05/12/2007

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Islamic Revolution Leader Ayatollah Sayed Ali Khamenei told a convention of senior judicial authorities of the Islamic countries in Tehran Wednesday that the statute of Islam can capably attend to the modern day human expectations, especially the demand for justice.

Ayatollah Khamenei observed that the solution to the Muslim world problems lies in self-confidence and reliance on God, urging the Islamic judicial bodies to make a return to the Divine judicial law and renovate the sublime foundation of Islamic jurisprudence.

The IR Leader viewed Tehran conference of Islamic judicial authorities as conducive to further exchange of views among the Muslim scholars and Alims (scholars of Islamic studies).

"The Islamic Umma (community) must grab every opportunity at hand to enhance internal bonds and promote good intention until the aspirations of the world of Islam are realized," Ayatollah Khamenei urged.

The Islamic Revolution Leader regarded the Islamic law as one of the most developed law systems in the present day world.

Ayatollah Khamenei regretted that the Western bloc was trying to belittle the Islamic law as being unable to cater to the modern day demands and that the judicial bodies of the Islamic countries had remained impressed by the Western juridical system unlike being in command of the eminent Islamic statute.

Ayatollah Khamenei believed that the absence of justice, security and fraternity and the unfettered rule of superpowers are the fruits of Western cultural dominance over the world.

"Today the world has a thirst for justice and security," Ayatollah Khamenei said.

"Muslims are treated with humiliation and discrimination in the so-perceived civilized countries of the west which profess to enjoy freedom of thought. In the Islamic countries, including Iran, however, the religious minorities are living a tranquil life and are free to observe their religious practices," Ayatollah Khamenei distinguished.

The Islamic Revolution Leader then underlined that the Western culture and civilization could not secure justice and security for human being whereas the high-status Islamic laws could secure the acute demands of humanity, including justice.

Ayatollah Khamenei identified the Western domineering attitude, the Zionist aggression against the Palestinian people and the silence of the western-civilization-gripped world as among the existing discriminations in the world.

"In these conditions, the Muslims must confidently and unanimously take measures through reliance on God. The God too has pledged Its Assistance whenever an idea is aptly dealt with," Ayatollah Khamenei recommended.

The IR Leader at the end of his remarks urged the Muslim judicial authorities to do follow-ups for the decisions they made in Tehran conference.

Early in the meeting and prior to the IR Leader remarks, the IRI Judiciary Chief, Ayatollah Hashemi Shahroudi delivered a report to the audience on the conference agenda and decisions.

The Judiciary Chief said that the Articles of Association of the union of Islamic countries judicial bodies would be drawn up in Tehran conference secretariat to be presented for approval to the next edition of the conference set for Saudi Arabia.

http://www.leader.ir/langs/EN/index.php?p=news&id=3749

Pookie
12-24-2007, 02:21 AM
I probably need to research that topic some more, and I could be wrong, but isn't Islamic law a bit harsh? Especially when it comes to women's rights, I think. Wasn't a British teacher jailed recently for allowing her students to name a teddy bear Mohammed?
Yikes. Just think of all the Hispanics named Jesus!
Purrs,
Pookie

jafar00
12-24-2007, 11:24 AM
I probably need to research that topic some more, and I could be wrong, but isn't Islamic law a bit harsh? Especially when it comes to women's rights, I think. Wasn't a British teacher jailed recently for allowing her students to name a teddy bear Mohammed?
Yikes. Just think of all the Hispanics named Jesus!
Purrs,
Pookie


And she was released and pardoned because it was shown her intentions were otherwise than what she was charged for.
Islamic law is harsh as is any other law if you are prone to break it.
Shariah is suited to today's world. It works well in Malaysia for example.

Pookie
12-24-2007, 02:08 PM
They also had to practically jump through hoops to get her release, though. I still think it's a bit harsh. It's also quite different from our laws, and that could be either a good thing or a bad.
Purrs,
Pookie

Scorpion
12-24-2007, 10:20 PM
I probably need to research that topic some more, and I could be wrong, but isn't Islamic law a bit harsh? Especially when it comes to women's rights, I think. Wasn't a British teacher jailed recently for allowing her students to name a teddy bear Mohammed?
Yikes. Just think of all the Hispanics named Jesus!
Purrs,
Pookie


And she was released and pardoned because it was shown her intentions were otherwise than what she was charged for.
Islamic law is harsh as is any other law if you are prone to break it.
Shariah is suited to today's world. It works well in Malaysia for example.


Yeah, Islamic law is so very humane and observant of human rights...

http://www.hrw.org/english/docs/2005/12/09/saudia12199.htm

http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/saudi/justice.html

http://www.irfi.org/articles/articles_151_200/crime_and_punishment_in_islam.htm

jafar00
12-25-2007, 01:43 PM
Bourne, the Saudis have their own justice system "based" on Shariah but with a lot of their own additions that enable them to hold on to power and subdue the general population. Shariah law is very fair and operates under the principle of "Innocent until proven guilty". Man made laws whether they called Shariah or not tend to be a little more harsh.

As an example, the Taliban are supposed to follow shariah right?
I spoke to an Afghan taxi driver a few years ago that was jailed for 2 months and given 50 lashes by the Taliban for not having a long enough beard. It was not enough that he genetically couldn't grow more than a small amount of facial hair. They still beat him and jailed him, only releasing him when it was quite clear he told the truth about not being able to grow the beard.

Now, this would be all well and good to enforce a rule about beards of it was considered a crime to keep a short one or shave. There is ONE interpretation of Islamic law that SUGGESTS that one's beard should be no shorter than a fistful, based on a tradition, but makes it clear that having a shorter beard or no beard is not a sin. In Islamic law, growing a beard is just a recommended action in return for blessings, it is NOT COMPULSORY.

So were the Taliban following Shariah, or their own law? If Shariah law says that having a short beard is not a crime, what law are the Taliban enforcing?

Same with the Sauds.

December
12-25-2007, 08:56 PM
I still think it's a bit harsh.

Why? Did you read the laws of Islam?

Scorpion
12-26-2007, 12:15 AM
After researching Islamic justice I can only conclude that Islamic law is flawed, inhumane, irrational and barbaric.

Jafar, spin it any way that you choose but they are savages.

December
12-26-2007, 12:53 AM
After researching Islamic justice I can only conclude that Islamic law is flawed, inhumane, irrational and barbaric.

Would you like to support your claim with quotes? Where did you research it?
If Islamic law is barbaric and inhumane than how come so many people converted in Islam?[hr]....they are savages.

Are you American?
Anyway, I will copy your statement and send it to Iran's media.

jafar00
12-26-2007, 12:55 PM
Jafar, spin it any way that you choose but they are savages.


Coming from a country forcing "democracy" on people by bombing them into submission, I find the definition of "savages" to be more than a little deserving of the title "Hypocrites".

That said I do agree the Sauds are savage in their total misinterpretation of Islamic law with their Wahhabism cult.