Gays have 2 year olds in their sights: Sickning

[K-D-K-D-K]

This is liberalism at its best. This is a example of the culture war I have been talking about and the eroding family values and traditions America and her children faces today. Something needs to done to stop the gays and their gay rights agenda.



http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59259

[Deadshot]

Isn't divorce, cheating parents, child abuse, etc. worse for family values?

Considering how many people are products of divorced family's, I don't think the gays can do anything to harm family values.

BTW, the site, is so biased and Right leaning it's not even funny. This is not a "news" story it's an op-ed piece in a Right Wing website!

[AnnEsthesia]

I guess you are bored with bashing Jews, so you are going to bash gays now?

[Phyxius]

As I keep telling all of my right-wing friends:

The biggest threat to marriage is divorce... :thumbsup:

[Alonzo]

The biggest threat to families is conservatism: http://www.democracyforums.com/showthread.php?tid=8782

MA is a beacon of family values.

[WaffleHousePolitics]

Deadshot is right. Homosexuality within the USA is a very touchy topic with regards to moral standards. However, I think we can all agree that the rate of divorce is has gone up to nearly 40%, which is a much bigger moral issue than homosexuals.

[micfranklin]

Bigotry, homophobia, and pure bias all in one. That sums up the OP pretty well.

[ECW]

This is liberalism at its best. This is a example of the culture war I have been talking about and the eroding family values and traditions America and her children faces today. Something needs to done to stop the gays and their gay rights agenda.



http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59259


This is rightwing hysteria at it's best. Child molestation has nothing to do with politics despite the fact that 90% of politicians caught in sex stings are republicans. America's values are eroding from within: a republican party that allows predators in its midst, war profiteers in their ranks, and hypocrites in the highest reaches of the party infrastructure. Something needs to be done to stop the theocratic/religious right's One Culture agenda. It's unAmerican.

[K-D-K-D-K]

So everyone is ok with introducing 2 yr olds to homosexuality?

[Alonzo]

KD here's an idea, ban the topic of heterosexuality around kids and we'll talk. The only way your view has validity is if you view homosexuality as evil or otherwise harmful, which obviously many, possibly most, disagree.

[AnnEsthesia]

Yes. I am ok with my children knowing that some people love members of their own sex. They sort of have to, what with my aunt being gay and all that. It does not bother me one bit.

Now, if someone was trying to describe actual sex with one of my young children (hetero- or homo-sexual) we would have a problem. But the concept that people of the same sex can love each other? Nope, no problem there.

[I Like Beer]

I guess you are bored with bashing Jews, so you are going to bash gays now?

All the gay Jews better look out![hr]
Yes. I am ok with my children knowing that some people love members of their own sex. They sort of have to, what with my aunt being gay and all that. It does not bother me one bit.

Now, if someone was trying to describe actual sex with one of my young children (hetero- or homo-sexual) we would have a problem. But the concept that people of the same sex can love each other? Nope, no problem there.

+1

[Kamehameha34]

Alonzo raises a good point. Every story where a prince lives happily ever after with a princess is "advocating a lifestyle." If we're allowing that, what's the harm in making it two princesses? Two princes?

The same element of sexuality, or lack thereof as it were, is still there. The agenda of the OP clearly isn't against sexual education for children, it is against all but the prohibition of all media that acknowledges the existence of homosexuals.

[lily]

Oh my God! What is this world coming to? Gays are going to get our precious little children! I think I better lock all mine up.......especially my 2 year old......um........it's been a while.......do 2 year olds attend school?

KD......the only one that is running with this story is World Net and even they say that the list is only a suggestion of reading material. I don't know about anyone else.....but I happen to think that teaching children tolerance of those that may be different from them is always a good thing.

[underdawg]

The topic of this thread is what disturbs me. "Gays have 2 year old in their sights: sickening". It seems that you are trying to imply that gays are child molesters. The purpose of such things is to prevent bullying between children. When you have a public school system with a wide variety of children from different backgrounds, faiths, races and sexual orientations, children should be taught that picking on other children because they are different will not be tolerated in schools.

[Buck Laser]

I'm pleased that no one has agreed with KDK. I'm not surprised, I guess, now that CWN is gone. But it's worth noting that KDK has cited something from World Net Daily as his source :sick: WND is every bit as reliable as the National Enquirer. :madlaugh:

[crimzonsol]

I hate people who say that Gays are ruining American Family Values. I especially hate people who say that Homosexuality is ruining marriage. People like Michael Jackson got married, how sacred is that?

You want american familyu values back? Know what you need to do? You need to stop breeding apathy in children and adults. Not stop Homosexuality, if people don't care about anything all values are going down the drain. And whats important to you? Stoping people from trying to follow their own principles people who have developed their own values and will never go against them. So you tell me why the hell should we stop Homosexuality and how in the hell does it destroy american family values?

[ECW]

So everyone is ok with introducing 2 yr olds to homosexuality?


What a hysterical response that was. Not funny hysterical but insane hysterical.

[K-D-K-D-K]

Can anybody answer the question? Is it ok to introduce homosexuality and their bedroom sexual lifestyles to 2 yr olds? Answer that question please. I want answers to see what kind of morals are lurking on this board!!

[bobbylien]

WND also has reported how thousands of requests for information about homeschooling and Christian school are bombarding organizations that support those efforts.

A spokeswoman for a ministry called Considering Homeschooling said she already has seen an overwhelming increase in requests for information about homeschooling.

As a result, spokeswoman Denise Kanter told WND that her group is sending out 5,000 DVD packages to churches around the state that include basic "how-to" information to provide parents a direction to turn when they choose to protect their children from the new school agenda.

Another group's website, Discover Christian Schools, has been getting almost 4,000 visits per day as parents seek alternatives, co-founder Harold Naylor Jr. said.

Besides the referendum being pursued by England's organization, WND also has reported on work by the non-profit Advocates for Faith and Freedom to file a lawsuit challenging a SB 777.
But if all of the bigots sent their kids to Christian schools... these laws and anti-discrimination policies wouldn't be necessary.
Does anyone else find it funny that these conservative news sites always have the absolute trashiest advertisements? Get rich quick schemes and "fix your skin" ads. I guess the site owners know their target audience quite well.

[Trish]

Merciful heavens - what a total waste of time reading this thread. I have a question for K-D-K-D-K - just how many homosexuals do you know personally? If I had to venture a guess, I'd say you either don't know any on a one-on-one basis - or at least you don't know that you know any. If you did you would know that lumping all homosexuals into one group (whatever the group) is about as smart as lumping all heterosexuals together into one group. Being homosexual doesn't automatically equate with being a child predator just as being heterosexual doesn't automatically equate to NOT being a child predator. Are there predator homosexuals? Yeah, probably there are. But certainly no more than heterosexual predators and one "brand" of child predator is no more heinous than the other.

Am I okay with "introducing" two-year olds to homosexuality? No - but then I'm not okay with "introducing" two-year olds to heterosexuality either. "Introducing" two-year olds to any type of sexuality is just a bad idea period. However, I AM okay with "introducing" two-year olds to people - and their sexual preferences are not at issue. My children's godfather is gay. They've known him all their lives. His sexual preferences have never been an issue in this household and as a result my sons have none of the homophobic, hysterical bigotry represented by this thread. They grew up knowing that a person's sexual preference is simply one aspect of that person's life - not the sum total of their being!

[Deadshot]

Can anybody answer the question? Is it ok to introduce homosexuality and their bedroom sexual lifestyles to 2 yr olds? Answer that question please. I want answers to see what kind of morals are lurking on this board!!


I'll humor the troll. I'm bored enough as it is.
Homosexual parents are not an evil thing. Your assumption is that the parents will have the child in the bedroom while they are having sex. I want you to know how stupid your bias is. It is just as likely that a heterosexual couple will do the same thing.
If you want to advocate keeeping gays from adopting, then you are discriminating, which is a morally and legaly wrong.
A child should not be exposed to sex untill he/she is ready.

Now you know what "morals lurk on this board" and I know what you are. A neo-nazi, KKK, hateful, bigot.


:clapper::clapper:Well put...you too Trish. :clapper::clapper:

[lily]

Can anybody answer the question? Is it ok to introduce homosexuality and their bedroom sexual lifestyles to 2 yr olds?

In you hysteria I think you're confusing two people going into a child's bedroom and giving him a sex show, with reading a child an age appropiate book. Are you against children learning?

Answer that question please. I want answers to see what kind of morals are lurking on this board!!

Tolerant of others, open minded, willing to discuss, and sadly for you not easily shocked.

[micfranklin]

Can anybody answer the question? Is it ok to introduce homosexuality and their bedroom sexual lifestyles to 2 yr olds? Answer that question please. I want answers to see what kind of morals are lurking on this board!!


Does it really matter what non-life threatening morals parents instill in their kids, especially if it is no way affecting your everyday life.

[K-D-K-D-K]

The bottom line is that homosexuality is immoral and being homosexual in front of kids at a early age will only confuse them as to what the hell is going on compared to kids with a normal mother dad Traditional American Family Valued relationship. No, this homosexual raising kids will only instill gay tendencys in young kids that will cause erosion of the American value system. We need to stop the gay pride parades and kick them out of the military and shut the gay clubs down as well. It is a moral issue and the bible condems them. Talk Show host Michael Savage is right. They are the destruction of this Country.

[Pookie]

Okay, but I was nasty about how I felt and I guess no one's here to throw me out yet. I stand by my words and I know I'll be banned. I broke the rules on purpose.
Purrs,
Pookie

[K-D-K-D-K]

Can anybody answer the question? Is it ok to introduce homosexuality and their bedroom sexual lifestyles to 2 yr olds? Answer that question please. I want answers to see what kind of morals are lurking on this board!!


I'll humor the troll. I'm bored enough as it is.
Homosexual parents are not an evil thing. Your assumption is that the parents will have the child in the bedroom while they are having sex. I want you to know how stupid your bias is. It is just as likely that a heterosexual couple will do the same thing.
If you want to advocate keeeping gays from adopting, then you are discriminating, which is a morally and legaly wrong.
A child should not be exposed to sex untill he/she is ready.

Now you know what "morals lurk on this board" and I know what you are. A neo-nazi, KKK, hateful, bigot.


KD, you got your answer in spades. Now I am going to break the rules and end up in FP but I don't care. In fact, I'll probably be banned from this site, but it needs to be said.
I'm sick of your racist drivel. So are others. You do not belong here and what you need to do is go find yourself a white supremacist site and stick your racist ass there. You simply do not belong here, and people do not always appreciate seeing your racist drivel and the David Duke poo you post.
Though this site is open to debate and we do, honestly, debate issues and ways of thinking, you only post racist hooey. I will be banned for this, but it's worth it. I personally find your posts offensive and quite racist.
That said, I will be thrown out of here so I will leave. Say Bye-Bye to the forum idiot cat.
Pookie
Do you think its OK for a 2 or 5 year old to see a same sex couple in the household loving on each other like for example kissing each other good by on the way to work? That kid will go to school and think its alright to kiss another boy assuming the child is a boy that is being raised by sinning gays that the bible strongly condemns. Is that OK? Get real. It is immoral.

[lily]

The bottom line is that homosexuality is immoral and being homosexual in front of kids at a early age will only confuse them as to what the hell is going on compared to kids with a normal mother dad Traditional American Family Valued relationship. No, this homosexual raising kids will only instill gay tendencys in young kids that will cause erosion of the American value system.

My God! What a drama queen! You are now taking your own article about a suggetive reading material to homosexuals turning our kids into homosexuals. You don't want you kids to know........don't read it to them. Keep them in the dark ages.

We need to stop the gay pride parades and kick them out of the military and shut the gay clubs down as well. It is a moral issue and the bible condems them. Talk Show host .

You're not too big on that whole freedom of speech thing are you? As for kicking them out of the military.......are you sure we can afford to do that? I mean look what happened when we found out that our Arabic translaters were gay.

Michael Savage is right. They are the destruction of this Country

Ah.......that explains a lot.

[Deadshot]

It's immoral for you, K-D. As to the Bible, I'll follow Jesus' golden rule, and treat others how I wish to be treated.

Considering what some 2-5 years see (i.e. affairs, drug use, abuse, etc.) I don't hold two men kissing, or better yet two women kissing:drool:, as the end all be all of existance.

Cheating on your wife, then divorcing her for the other woman, as the front runner of the Republican Party did, now that's immoral, but my guess is you're going to vote for him should he win the Nomination.

And to parrot Pookie, go play somewhere else with your morals, or lack there of...

[Kenzieman]

You want american familyu values back? Know what you need to do? You need to stop breeding apathy in children and adults.


AMEN!!!!!!![hr]
Can anybody answer the question? Is it ok to introduce homosexuality and their bedroom sexual lifestyles to 2 yr olds? Answer that question please. I want answers to see what kind of morals are lurking on this board!!


I didn't see anything in that article alluding to "bedroom sexual lifestyles". I saw quite a bit about lifestyles--single sex couples, things like that--but nothing about bedrrom activities.

Do I agree with exposing 2 year olds to anything relating to sexual activity? Absolutly not---hetero or homosexual. A 2 year old has no concept of sexuality in either orientation.

I really wonder if you seriouly believe any of this KDK, or if you just want to come here and troll out.

[AnnEsthesia]

Can anybody answer the question? Is it ok to introduce homosexuality and their bedroom sexual lifestyles to 2 yr olds? Answer that question please. I want answers to see what kind of morals are lurking on this board!!


I did answer that question. I guess you did not bother to read your responses. You do understand that you can explain homosexuality without discussing sex, right? After all, we discuss marriage and heterosexuality without discussing sex.[hr]
The bottom line is that homosexuality is immoral and being homosexual in front of kids at a early age will only confuse them as to what the hell is going on compared to kids with a normal mother dad Traditional American Family Valued relationship. No, this homosexual raising kids will only instill gay tendencys in young kids that will cause erosion of the American value system. We need to stop the gay pride parades and kick them out of the military and shut the gay clubs down as well. It is a moral issue and the bible condems them. Talk Show host Michael Savage is right. They are the destruction of this Country.


Then please explain all the homosexuals that spring from your traditional mother father go to church every sunday, pillar of the community type of families...

[micfranklin]

The bottom line is that homosexuality is immoral and being homosexual in front of kids at a early age will only confuse them as to what the hell is going on compared to kids with a normal mother dad Traditional American Family Valued relationship. No, this homosexual raising kids will only instill gay tendencys in young kids that will cause erosion of the American value system. We need to stop the gay pride parades and kick them out of the military and shut the gay clubs down as well. It is a moral issue and the bible condems them. Talk Show host Michael Savage is right. They are the destruction of this Country.


In your opinion. Just because you don't approve of it doesn't mean everyone else doesn't and you're assuming that being gay is worse than murder. That is right up there with bigotry. And I'm still waiting for you to tell me how non-life threatening morals are hurting you in any way...

Wait, do you attend Westboro Baptist Church?

[NortheastCynic]

We need to stop the gay pride parades and kick them out of the military and shut the gay clubs down as well. It is a moral issue and the bible condems them. Talk Show host Michael Savage is right. They are the destruction of this Country.What kind of conservative doesn't value property rights? If a private individual wants to use his money to buy and operate a 'gay club' you have no right preventing him from doing so. If you don't like "gay clubs" don't go to one, it's that simple.

BTW, the Bible isn't the supreme law of the land in gov't, the Constitution is. The Bible and religion in general is a personal relationship with God and turning it into a social code of a law is a perversion of its purpose.

-NC

[lily]

Do you think its OK for a 2 or 5 year old to see a same sex couple in the household loving on each other like for example kissing each other good by on the way to work? That kid will go to school and think its alright to kiss another boy assuming the child is a boy that is being raised by sinning gays that the bible strongly condemns. Is that OK? Get real. It is immoral.


Going by your standards, then a father shouldn't kiss his son goodbye when he goes to school, because somehow that is going to show him that the father is not only homosexual but a pedophile?

You seem to mention the bible a lot........are you big on the Ten Commandments? Do you think you should live your life by them?

[Deadshot]

Hmmm...enforcing the Ten Commandments that would be fun...

What is the punishment for the Kid yelling at his parent?

My guess is that should I be caught coveting my neighbor's wife, then commiting the act of adultery, that I might bear false witness...what's that trifecta punishment.:nana:

My Lord, the Uber-Religious are just SO funny.:lmao:

[lily]

Also Deadshot........I don't see any commandment saying homosexuality is a sin.

[Deadshot]

KEE-RECT!!! Also, if we begin to do EVERYTHING the Bible tells us...well let's just say that sometimes being bad is very, very good.:embarrased:

[I Like Beer]

The bottom line is that homosexuality is immoral and being homosexual in front of kids at a early age will only confuse them as to what the hell is going on compared to kids with a normal mother dad Traditional American Family Valued relationship. No, this homosexual raising kids will only instill gay tendencys in young kids that will cause erosion of the American value system. We need to stop the gay pride parades and kick them out of the military and shut the gay clubs down as well. It is a moral issue and the bible condems them. Talk Show host Michael Savage is right. They are the destruction of this Country.


Now, for some of our conservative friends who take a dim view of homosexuality.

Do you see what your intolerance has wrought? By not being vocal condemners of hatred, you allow this type of bigotry to go unchecked and unchallenged. We need conservatives and Republicans to stand up to KDK. What good will it do if liberals are the ones to do it? He certainly won't listen to us.

If you truly believe in individual rights - stand up and tell KDK to go back to the stone age where this kind of intolerance should have died with our ancestors.

[Red Dragon]

The bottom line is that homosexuality is immoral Really strange I have no moral problems with homosexuality and even if I did I would not use the state to enforce my moral ideals.

and being homosexual in front of kids at a early age will only confuse them as to what the hell is going on compared to kids with a normal mother dad Traditional American Family Valued relationship. One appeal to tradition is a logical fallacy, two I care about this why?

No, this homosexual raising kids will only instill gay tendencys in young kids that will cause erosion of the American value system. Oh please there have been no empirical studies I know of linking one person's homosexuality to that of another. In other words, being around gay people won't make you or your impressionable children gay. If that were ture then being around hetrosexauls would make gay people straight.


We need to stop the gay pride parades Good bye first ammendmant.

and kick them out of the military You want to lower the amount of people going into the army, if someone wants to earn the gory glory then who cares what their sexuality is? Even though I have strong feelings against the military myself I would try to use force in an attempt to stop people from joining.

and shut the gay clubs down as well. Good bye private property.
It is a moral issue and the bible condems them. Okay then so we've established it's not a political issue, and does not require the intervention of the goverment. Also some Christians (http://anarchism.jesusradicals.com/) hold that the state is immoral, can we get rid of the state, becuase that would please me greatly.

Talk Show host Michael Savage is right. They are the destruction of this Country. I find the sound of nails scrapping against a chalk board to be informative, for his words are not even worth the air they use!

[underdawg]

Can anybody answer the question? Is it ok to introduce homosexuality and their bedroom sexual lifestyles to 2 yr olds? Answer that question please. I want answers to see what kind of morals are lurking on this board!!


Well for a two year old I would just say that most men marry women but sometimes a man will marry another man, or a woman may marry another woman, just not legally yet. Two year olds are too young to be told the specifics about heterosexuals or homosexuals at that age.[hr]Pookie you are one of the most civil people I have met on this forum. I doubt if you get tossed out, but your post will most likely be put in fools paradise. Even a kitty will smack you with its claws when it gets pissed off enough.

[K-D-K-D-K]

We need to stop the gay pride parades and kick them out of the military and shut the gay clubs down as well. It is a moral issue and the bible condems them. Talk Show host Michael Savage is right. They are the destruction of this Country.What kind of conservative doesn't value property rights? If a private individual wants to use his money to buy and operate a 'gay club' you have no right preventing him from doing so. If you don't like "gay clubs" don't go to one, it's that simple.

BTW, the Bible isn't the supreme law of the land in gov't, the Constitution is. The Bible and religion in general is a personal relationship with God and turning it into a social code of a law is a perversion of its purpose.

-NC
The few gay clubs in the area where I live have been shut down due to good christian church rallies condeming them and putting political pressure on civic leaders to not grant them licenses to stay open after police sent in underage minors with fake drivers licenses to purchase alchohol. All of the sex shop owners have been arrested as well. The community has come together in preserving the christian conservative faith and family values culture and wholesum traditions that thrives in the south which should serve as a model for the country, especially San Francisco.

[NortheastCynic]

That is a substantially different issue. If a club is selling alcohol to minors, they are subject to legal action. However, the government has no business preventing them from opening. Doing so is an incredible violation of economic/property rights.

-NC

[Alonzo]

At the same time NEC, it does become an issue if those clubs were targeted. It may have been a direct attempt to shut them down for being a gay club.

Even reputable places get in trouble with that. The last time I was in whole foods liquor store (they set it up in a building next door) they were carding every single person who went in because they recently got in serious trouble, and two people got fired, because some undercover, underage kids got alcohol.

[NortheastCynic]

Funny you mention a set-up, Zo, I was just about to edit my last response to address that very issue.

Great minds...

-NC

[Shintao]

Can anybody answer the question? Is it ok to introduce homosexuality and their bedroom sexual lifestyles to 2 yr olds? Answer that question please. I want answers to see what kind of morals are lurking on this board!!


I didn't read in the article where "bedroom sexual lifestyles" was going to be taught to 2 year olds.

[K-D-K-D-K]

Can anybody answer the question? Is it ok to introduce homosexuality and their bedroom sexual lifestyles to 2 yr olds? Answer that question please. I want answers to see what kind of morals are lurking on this board!!


I didn't read in the article where "bedroom sexual lifestyles" was going to be taught to 2 year olds.
Well I am sure they will witness the immoral acts sooner or later as the grow up. Those poor little kids.

[Alonzo]

K-D-K, I think there are other kids we need to worry about before children of homosexuals. Kids who have been dropped on their head a few times come to mind.

[Shintao]

Well I am sure they will witness the immoral acts sooner or later as the grow up. Those poor little kids.


Yeah, they were probably in the public restroom where Craig was tapping his toes. :madlaugh:

I suppose they will be practicing homosexuality when they masturbate and get a lady to give them a BJ or hand job. You know, those unchristian family values that don't result in sure fired preganancys every shot. For sure protection from rubbers is out of the question. Conception is the only goal a christian knows.

[Saigio]

Can anybody answer the question? Is it ok to introduce homosexuality and their bedroom sexual lifestyles to 2 yr olds? Answer that question please. I want answers to see what kind of morals are lurking on this board!!


I didn't read in the article where "bedroom sexual lifestyles" was going to be taught to 2 year olds.
Well I am sure they will witness the immoral acts sooner or later as the grow up. Those poor little kids.


Yeah! Lets protect the poor innocent kids from everything that may hurt their little minds. We'll keep them locked away in a bubble untill they are 12 years old, and then take them out and start raising them. Will that work for you, KDKDK?

[micfranklin]

KDKDK I'm still waiting for you to tell us how homosexuality that isn't life threatening is negatively impacting you or any of us.

[bobbylien]

KDKDK I'm still waiting for you to tell us how homosexuality that isn't life threatening is negatively impacting you or any of us.

Its not. Condemning homosexuals is just a way for KdKdK to make himself look better.

[AnnEsthesia]

I was not aware it was immoral to kiss. I kiss my female friends (platonic) all the time. The horror!

[underdawg]

The bottom line is that homosexuality is immoral and being homosexual in front of kids at a early age will only confuse them as to what the hell is going on compared to kids with a normal mother dad Traditional American Family Valued relationship. No, this homosexual raising kids will only instill gay tendencys in young kids that will cause erosion of the American value system. We need to stop the gay pride parades and kick them out of the military and shut the gay clubs down as well. It is a moral issue and the bible condems them. Talk Show host Michael Savage is right. They are the destruction of this Country.


So what sort of things do you suggest that the country do with its homosexual population? What sort of traditional values and traditions are you concerned are going to erode? Intolerance, lynchings, discrimination, bullying, and public ridicule of gay people?