Do all non-Christians go to hell?

[Alonzo]

Being raised Catholics non Christians either went to heaven or purgatory if they led good lives, and only went to hell when they lead bad lives. So, for example, Gandhi would go to heaven and Hitler would go to hell. So I was wondering, in other forms of Christianity, where do good non-Christians go? Gandhi for instance, is he in hell? Is Custer in heaven?

[AnnEsthesia]

I don't know... but as a non-practicing Catholic, I know where I am going...

[ViolaLee]

According to Evangelicals, you can only go to heaven if you've accepted Christ as your savior.

Soooooo

Bush is going to heaven and Gandhi's in hell.

[I Like Beer]

According to Evangelicals, you can only go to heaven if you've accepted Christ as your savior.

Soooooo

Bush is going to heaven and Gandhi's in hell.


:worship:

That statement right there encapsulates all that is wrong with fundamentalist Christianity.

[Pookie]

I can think of so many times this has come up in conversation between friends and me, and none of us really had an answer. I think Billy Graham said this about Heaven: "When we get there, we're in for two surprises. One will be who is IN Heaven. The other will be who is NOT in Heaven."
Purrs,
Pookie

[Newscaster]

I believe that far too many Christians make up the rules as they go along. If it is convenient for them to believe they will go to heaven, there is a rule made up that qualifies them but never one that bars the gates. Heaven is not like a fancy restaurant. You cant make reservations ahead of time. We've all heard about the so-called Book Of Life" mwhere all our deeds, good, bad or otherwise are inscribed. When the time comes, God opens the book to your page and he and only he determines if you get in. Being Born Again is far too easy because words are cheap. You cannot say...."As of this moment, I am a believer and therefore I am a good guy and I qualify." Thats one of the reasons I am glad I am not a Christian. I would go bonkers with worrying about sin every five minutes. And I refer to sins that are man made, thought up by church leaders as part of their power trip. There is no one who is going to tell me that jaywalking is just as bad a sin as murder but I have heard that countless times. Someone always says there is no such thing as a small sin or a big one. They are all alike. That is not the result of rational thinking. That is fear and I dont buy it and even though most Christians won't admit it, I dont think they buy it either.
There is only one answer to the question...."Who gets into Heaven?" Wait. You'll find out soon enough.

[HankSaint]

I like your thinking Newscaster, and I agree with some of what you post.
Being a Mormon though, gives me a better understanding of a loving and just God.
Many people born into this life will never be given the opportunity to hear or read about God and the plan of Salvation, should they be eliminated from the blessing of Heaven, not my God. Heaven is real, and he talks about the way to get there.
Faith, repentance, and baptism are essential, but what about those who are never given the chance to see and hear, would this be fair? There must be another plan for those who slip through the cracks. Search the scriptures and you will be amazed at the answer therein. That is your homework for the day, any questions and Professor Hank is ready and willing to teach. :thumbsup:

[Deadshot]

According to Evangelicals, you can only go to heaven if you've accepted Christ as your savior.

Soooooo

Bush is going to heaven and Gandhi's in hell.


:worship:

That statement right there encapsulates all that is wrong with fundamentalist Christianity.



Well put, I agree with your analysis.

[Newscaster]

Hank Saint, your statement that your being a Mormon gives you a better view of God than my view. Thats fine that you believe that and I for one will never say you are wrong. I will say however that your vfiew of God is just that...yours. It is no more better or worse or even just different from mine.

Mt view is one that bring comfort to me and that is what religion is supposed top do. It is supposed to give comfort so that my life becomes good and I can lead the kind of life I imagine God wants to see me lead. But what I see as the good life is different from yours because my experiences are different from yours. The things that happen to me or the sings I see, hear or feel are not your experiences and as such my life of necessity mis different, needing different prompts. But to say one's faith is better than anothers is what causes the world's problems. You see my faith does not require approval from anyone nor do I approve or disapprove of someone else's faith unless it encroaches on me.
So, have a wonderful life. Live the life God wants you to live and allow me and all other people to do the same.

[Deadshot]

But to say one's faith is better than anothers is what causes the world's problems. You see my faith does not require approval from anyone nor do I approve or disapprove of someone else's faith unless it encroaches on me.

So, have a wonderful life. Live the life God wants you to live and allow me and all other people to do the same.



If every religion could abide by what I've bolded above the world would be a better place.

Great post, Newscaster, you are absofuckinglutely right!

[Truth_and_Power]

When I was 18 I rolled & smoked the entire book of revelations so that I wouldn't have to endure any doubt about where I'm going if the christians are right.

:blah:

[underdawg]

Well I was taught that you could live your whole life as a nasty, horrible person killing robbing and raping, but as long as you were able to ask god for forgiveness on your death bed you were good to go, yet a person who had lived a good decent life yet did not accept Jesus Christ as your savior, then you were certainly bound for hell. It seems quite convienient for all those nasty people mean people.

[Alonzo]

Under I had an altered version of that. You could be forgiven for leading a horrible life, but you had to genuinely regret what you did and denounce your old way of life in your heart. Only God would know whether you were sincere or not. It was not a simple thing of just asking.

[HankSaint]

Hank Saint, your statement that your being a Mormon gives you a better view of God than my view. Thats fine that you believe that and I for one will never say you are wrong. I will say however that your vfiew of God is just that...yours. It is no more better or worse or even just different from mine.

Mt view is one that bring comfort to me and that is what religion is supposed top do. It is supposed to give comfort so that my life becomes good and I can lead the kind of life I imagine God wants to see me lead. But what I see as the good life is different from yours because my experiences are different from yours. The things that happen to me or the sings I see, hear or feel are not your experiences and as such my life of necessity mis different, needing different prompts. But to say one's faith is better than anothers is what causes the world's problems. You see my faith does not require approval from anyone nor do I approve or disapprove of someone else's faith unless it encroaches on me.
So, have a wonderful life. Live the life God wants you to live and allow me and all other people to do the same.


Wow, how did you decipher from my post that I thought my view was better than yours. Sorry to have bothered responding to what I thought was a good post.
My point was that God is not selective, and all good, honest, and just individuals have as much right to The Glories of God as do I and my religion, what don't you understand about that? Have a good life which entitles you freedom of choice.
My responsibilities affect me, and I hardly want to encroach on yours. All men are created equal, but not all things are equal. Sorry to have bothered you. :worship:

[Chris]

According to Evangelicals, you can only go to heaven if you've accepted Christ as your savior.

Soooooo

Bush is going to heaven and Gandhi's in hell.


:worship:

That statement right there encapsulates all that is wrong with fundamentalist Christianity.


That statement above encapsulates all that is wrong with Christianity -not just fundamentalist Christianity.

The problem with mainstream and liberal christianity - is that when asked the OP question, they either dont have an answer, or skirt around the issue, or have different answers than what the bible - the core text of all christianity, says on the matter.

What I am trying to say is, most christians - liberal or fundamentalist, dont read the bible and most dont know what it says. If they were given a copy, and the title didnt say "holy bible" and the Religious supernatural spooky language were replaced with fictional characters, the evangelicals and others would be calling for the book to be burned and banned.

[Newscaster]

Wow, how did you decipher from my post that I thought my view was better than yours. Sorry to have bothered responding to what I thought was a good post.



Hank, when you indicate a difference in view of G-d members members of one faith compared to membersd of any, no matter how innicent you may consider it, you are treading on dangerous territory.
Faith is private and extremely important to the faithful and you must tread carefully. How you see G-d is none of my business unless of course your view intends to block mine. Now, I dont think that is the case now or when I first posted a response. So I would not get upset but always keep in mind, people respond in very different ways to seemingly innocent statements.
If you feel insulted or put upon, I apologize. There was no insult intended....just un-asked for advice.

[HankSaint]

Hank, when you indicate a difference in view of G-d members members of one faith compared to membersd of any, no matter how innicent you may consider it, you are treading on dangerous territory.
Faith is private and extremely important to the faithful and you must tread carefully. How you see G-d is none of my business unless of course your view intends to block mine. Now, I dont think that is the case now or when I first posted a response. So I would not get upset but always keep in mind, people respond in very different ways to seemingly innocent statements.
If you feel insulted or put upon, I apologize. There was no insult intended....just un-asked for advice.


No hurt feeling newscaster, just confused by your post. I gave you a compliment and you kind of slammed me. How I see God is only important to me, and would never force or pretend to think I could make anyone else see it my way.

And there was no advice given if you re-read my post.

Thanks for clearing up the miscommunication I guess. :dizzy:

[ViolaLee]

According to Evangelicals, you can only go to heaven if you've accepted Christ as your savior.

Soooooo

Bush is going to heaven and Gandhi's in hell.


:worship:

That statement right there encapsulates all that is wrong with fundamentalist Christianity.


That statement above encapsulates all that is wrong with Christianity -not just fundamentalist Christianity.

The problem with mainstream and liberal christianity - is that when asked the OP question, they either dont have an answer, or skirt around the issue, or have different answers than what the bible - the core text of all christianity, says on the matter.

What I am trying to say is, most christians - liberal or fundamentalist, dont read the bible and most dont know what it says. If they were given a copy, and the title didnt say "holy bible" and the Religious supernatural spooky language were replaced with fictional characters, the evangelicals and others would be calling for the book to be burned and banned.
It's just that they say they know the answer to the uunkowable and it's annoying when they insist they are right and you are wrong as if they actually really know what the future will bring. They are like fortune tellers, but they don't charge you for their ware, they just start preaching at you out of the blue.

This happened last night at the Christmas eve party. It all started with him saying kids should pray in school and after a little argument about the constitution and being offended by the idea that only they go to heaven. I felt the sheepdogs biting my ankles trying to herd me into the flock. We black sheep heathens retreated to the kitchen to plan a goat slaughter sacrifice.

I'm a militant agnostic. I don't know and neither do you.

My friend wore his Christmas shirt today, it said:

Nuke godless communist gay baby seals for Christ.

It says Christ! So it's his Christmas shirt.

:madlaugh::clapper:

[HankSaint]

It's just that they say they know the answer to the uunkowable and it's annoying when they insist they are right and you are wrong as if they actually really know what the future will bring. They are like fortune tellers, but they don't charge you for their ware, they just start preaching at you out of the blue.

Most of us admit there is a lot of unknowable to our existence as we can also see in the scientific world. I feel my friend that when you close your mind to all possibilities, evidence, and historical and scientific study you only limit yourself.

I agree that when someone approaches you, and states you are wrong, that person is also showing forth a closed mind to any further light and knowledge available. Even in my own Religion, (Mormon), I personally have shifted different
personal beliefs to allow for change and advancement. When teaching Investigators class, to new converts, often other members would state to me after class, ------ such and such convert still holds different beliefs than what we teach in Mormonism. I would respond and say, "so what", life is a series of progress, and different plateaus. Why should we expect others to always see things the way some of us do, and what makes us think we have all the right answers. Again, people with a certain agenda or locked in belief are the ones who never seem to progress.

[Tsky]

If you mean hell as in 'burning place of torment controlled by the Devil where evil people are sent by God as a punishment for their sins' then the answer is no. Why? I would say because my knowledge of scripture has taught me that no such place exists.

[HankSaint]

If you mean hell as in 'burning place of torment controlled by the Devil where evil people are sent by God as a punishment for their sins' then the answer is no. Why? I would say because my knowledge of scripture has taught me that no such place exists.


I have to agree with Tsky here. Gods gift to man was freely given, and was given to all. Those who never had or will never have the chance to hear the Gospel are redeemed as much as you or I. The scripture point to all of us are His children, faith alone does not qualify you. :thumbsup:

[Pookie]

What if someone doesn't believe in hell and has a different path of faith than that of Christianity?
Do Muslims or Jews go to hell because they're not Christians?
Purrs,
Pookie

[Newscaster]

What if someone doesn't believe in hell and has a different path of faith than that of Christianity?
Do Muslims or Jews go to hell because they're not Christians?


Pookie, I believe the idea that only believers in one type of religion go to Heaven and the rest go to hell is a manifestation of fear and uncertainty.
Its a very difficult idea to handle that when you die, thats it, forever...there ain't no more. People need reassurance that there is indeed something more because they fear the unknown and when they pick the faith they believe will provide them with more, they then fear that they may have chosen wrong. Its a normal reaction. What is not normal is trying to lord it over people by with the idea that "I am going to heaven and you're not. Nyahhh nyahhh."

I dont know if there is a heaven or a hell. I do know that when I lead a good life, as outlined in the bible, I feel good and when I dont, I feel like crap. And if there is something after this life on earth, I hope its a good kind of existence but I sure wont know until the time comes. Conside this......
if there is no heaven or hell.....when I die, I won't know and if there is, there wont be much I can do to change things at that point. And since its never happened before, I sure won't be able to return and tell all my friends.

So relax, lead a good life and what happens happens. As I have said before, you cannot make reservations for a spot in heaven ahead of time.
Like the guys at Smith Barney....you have to earn it.

[Deadshot]

I'm Catholic and here's the problem I've always had with my religions assumption that all non-believers go to Hell.

You're 18 years old, old enough to accept Christ and His teachings, but you haven't. You're a good person, you don't lie-cheat-steal, etc. Your biggest sin so far is having sex a few times. You really haven't lived much of a life and suddenly you die in an accident.

Does that person really go to Hell? If it's all about accepting Christ, as the majority of the big Christian religions believe it is, then they believe that that 18 year old is bound for Hell. But there are so many good, kind people out there that are Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, etc. I just can't see how God can send them to Hell just because they didn't accept his Son.

I guess I'll always see God as "God the Father". And as a Father, someone that loves his children, you don't ruling by an iron fist, but by a helping hand.

[Alonzo]

I'm Catholic and here's the problem I've always had with my religions assumption that all non-believers go to Hell.

Catholicism doesn't teach that.

"The Catholic Church professes that it is the one, holy catholic and apostolic Church of Christ; this it does not and could not deny. But in its Constitution the Church now solemnly acknowledges that the Holy Ghost is truly active in the churches and communities separated from itself. To these other Christian Churches the Catholic Church is bound in many ways: through reverence for God's word in the Scriptures; through the fact of baptism; through other sacraments which they recognize."

5. The non-Christian may not be blamed for his ignorance of Christ and his Church; salvation is open to him also, if he seeks God sincerely and if he follows the commands of his conscience, for through this means the Holy Ghost acts upon all men; this divine action is not confined within the limited boundaries of the visible Church." 6....

The fate of non-Catholics, as expressed after Vatican II:
bullet The Catechism of the Catholic Church (1994), deals with the relationship of the Roman Catholic Church to non-Catholics in Topics 839 to 845. 9 Some points are:
bullet 839: Followers of other religions are referred to as "Those who have not yet received the gospel..." The implication is that they will eventually become united with the Roman Catholic Church.
bullet 839 to 841: The Roman Catholic Church has a special relationship to Jews and Muslims because of the common reverence for the patriarch Abraham.
bullet 843: Other religions contain "goodness and truth" which are "a preparation for the Gospel."
bullet 845: God wishes to "reunite all his children," of all religions who are "scattered and led astray by sin...together into" the Catholic Church....

Elements of Christianity were placed in other religions by the Holy Spirit......

Salvation is possible to those who are not Roman Catholics or Eastern Orthodox......

Numerous statements since the 1960's seem to have stated clearly that the Church has switches to an inclusivist position. They now believe that non-Catholics can have indirect access to salvation, but that their faith may well place serious roadblocks on the path to salvation.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/rcc_salv.htm

[Deadshot]

Well Zo, I graduated in 1988 from Catholic high school and the pengiuns and priests there told a different story. I'd also point out that the actions of the current Pope don't exactly jive with what you've sourced.

You've got the sources on this, and quite frankly I didn't really believe the old Catholic teachings anyway, so I hope you're right.

[Alonzo]

I graduated from a Catholic school as well, though it was in the 90's. That is what we were taught and, if anything, what I was taught was more accepting than what I posted. They made no distinction with regards to other Christians in regards to heaven, purgatory and hell and one year in religion class we even learned about Buddhism, Islam (along with the five pillars and others important things), Judaism etc.

I'm sure the prevailing attitude in the region you live in plays a major role into what part of the teaching is emphasized.

There is a difference in emphasis between popes.. John Paul focused more on "the Holy Ghost acts upon all men; this divine action is not confined within the limited boundaries of the visible Church" while Benedict focuses more on "They now believe that non-Catholics can have indirect access to salvation, but that their faith may well place serious roadblocks on the path to salvation.". But, as much as I dislike the new pope, I don't see any real contradiction to this in what he's said.

[Deadshot]

Well you may be right about how and where the Dogma is taught. I just know, around the midwest, you're going to Hell if you haven't accepted Christ.

I'll have to have my Jewish friends move up north so they'll be under the Northern rules when they croak!:madlaugh:

[PatrickHenry]

There's Christianity, there's Christians and then there's Christ.

Let's see what HE said. This is the Contemporary English Version.

Matthew 25:31-46

When the Son of Man comes in his glory with all of his angels, he will sit on his royal throne.

The people of all nations will be brought before him, and he will separate them, as shepherds separate their sheep from their goats.

He will place the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

Then the king will say to those on his right, "My father has blessed you! Come and receive the kingdom that was prepared for you before the world was created.

When I was hungry, you gave me something to eat, and when I was thirsty, you gave me something to drink. When I was a stranger, you welcomed me, and when I was naked, you gave me clothes to wear. When I was sick, you took care of me, and when I was in jail, you visited me."

Then the ones who pleased the Lord will ask, "When did we give you something to eat or drink?

When did we welcome you as a stranger or give you clothes to wear
or visit you while you were sick or in jail?"

The king will answer, "Whenever you did it for any of my people, no matter how unimportant they seemed, you did it for me."

Then the king will say to those on his left, "Get away from me! You are under God's curse. Go into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels!

I was hungry, but you did not give me anything to eat, and I was thirsty, but you did not give me anything to drink.

I was a stranger, but you did not welcome me, and I was naked, but you did not give me any clothes to wear. I was sick and in jail, but you did not take care of me."

Then the people will ask, "Lord, when did we fail to help you when you were hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in jail?"

The king will say to them, "Whenever you failed to help any of my people, no matter how unimportant they seemed, you failed to do it for me."

Then Jesus said, "Those people will be punished forever. But the ones who pleased God will have eternal life."

Is this the answer you were looking for alonzo?

[Tsky]

There's Christianity, there's Christians and then there's Christ.

Let's see what HE said. This is the Contemporary English Version.

Matthew 25:31-46

When the Son of Man comes in his glory with all of his angels, he will sit on his royal throne.

The people of all nations will be brought before him, and he will separate them, as shepherds separate their sheep from their goats.

He will place the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

Then the king will say to those on his right, "My father has blessed you! Come and receive the kingdom that was prepared for you before the world was created.

When I was hungry, you gave me something to eat, and when I was thirsty, you gave me something to drink. When I was a stranger, you welcomed me, and when I was naked, you gave me clothes to wear. When I was sick, you took care of me, and when I was in jail, you visited me."

Then the ones who pleased the Lord will ask, "When did we give you something to eat or drink?

When did we welcome you as a stranger or give you clothes to wear
or visit you while you were sick or in jail?"

The king will answer, "Whenever you did it for any of my people, no matter how unimportant they seemed, you did it for me."

Then the king will say to those on his left, "Get away from me! You are under God's curse. Go into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels!

I was hungry, but you did not give me anything to eat, and I was thirsty, but you did not give me anything to drink.

I was a stranger, but you did not welcome me, and I was naked, but you did not give me any clothes to wear. I was sick and in jail, but you did not take care of me."

Then the people will ask, "Lord, when did we fail to help you when you were hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in jail?"

The king will say to them, "Whenever you failed to help any of my people, no matter how unimportant they seemed, you failed to do it for me."

Then Jesus said, "Those people will be punished forever. But the ones who pleased God will have eternal life."

Is this the answer you were looking for alonzo?


I believe Jesus made it clear that those who didn't believe in the Father and the Son would be annihilated. Does that mean they are going to hell, which is a place run by the Devil?

If anyone can show me a scripture that says that hell is a literal burning place that is ran by the Devil I would be happy to read it. Rev. 20:13-15 talks about hell being thrown into the lake of fire (which doesn't make sense if hell is already hot. Does that mean the lake of fire is extra hot so that it can burn up hell?) The Bible says Jesus went to hell. The Bible says Jonas was in hell when he was in the belly of the fish. Job prayed to go to hell. What does that mean? Hell is the common grave. That scripture in Revelation also talks about non-tangible things being thrown into the lake fire, i.e. death; therefore it is quite clear that the lake of fire or ANYTHING associated with fire in the scriptures means everlasting destruction. Hell, Sheol and Hades are the same thing but you wouldn't know that by reading the confusing KJB.

[Alonzo]

Well I was looking for the opinions of non catholic Pat. I know what the bible says, but many seem to ignore the whole "Good works" part.

[Tsky]

Well I was looking for the opinions of non catholic Pat. I know what the bible says, but many seem to ignore the whole "Good works" part.


I don't ignore any part of what it says but I pay a lot of attention to the parts that talk about what is needed for salvation. Jesus knew he was going to leave the scene, he never planned to live on Earth forever so for him to say that the road to salvation was through him knowing he wouldn't be around to get some huge ego boost out of knowing people were following him leads me to believe he was telling the truth. He did not say the search for the road that leads to salvation would be easy because he said we would have to search, as if for hidden treasures. You can further see that he was on to something when you take into account that there are a zillion different religious. However, I beleive the search starts with a HONEST and THOROUGH study of the scriptures, preferably scriptures that stick as close the original intent of the authors as possible. That's where I started.

[Pookie]

Newscaster:
Thank you for your excellent explanation and answer to my questions. You make so much sense. I will think of your words in days to come.
Purrs,
Your Pookie

[PatrickHenry]

I like quoting the Bible when I argue about what Jesus said.

Anybody can have a bunch of opinions based upon what some priest or preacher told them. But the Bible has what He is supposed to have said.

Thus, I discount the opinions that don't come with a quote from the Bible.

[David Hume]

To quote the Ozark Mountain Daredevils, "If you wanna get to heaven, you've gotta raise a little hell."[hr]
I like quoting the Bible when I argue about what Jesus said.

Anybody can have a bunch of opinions based upon what some priest or preacher told them. But the Bible has what He is supposed to have said.

Thus, I discount the opinions that don't come with a quote from the Bible.


What do you make of this quote, Patrick? "I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword." Or this one? "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one."

And how do you reconcile it with this? "You have heard that it was said, 'An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.' But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you." Or this? "But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also. If someone takes your cloak, do not stop him from taking your tunic. Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. Do to others as you would have them do to you."

[Chris]

If you mean hell as in 'burning place of torment controlled by the Devil where evil people are sent by God as a punishment for their sins' then the answer is no. Why? I would say because my knowledge of scripture has taught me that no such place exists.


What? Hell doesnt exist?

Psalm 55:15 Let death seize upon them, and let them go down quick into hell: for wickedness is in their dwellings, and among them.

Jesus says most people will go to hell:
Matt 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat
7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Matt 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.


A whole lot more where that came from.

[Pookie]

A minister who I respect very much once said to me:
"We are going to be very, very surprised to see who is in Heaven...and who isn't."
I'll bet he's right.
Purrs,
Pookie

[Newscaster]

.[/quote]

Jesus says most people will go to hell:
[quote]

[quote]

Well, being Jewish, I dont subscribe to the divinity of Jesus but I do recognize him as having been an intelligent men who understood the people around him and most of what he quoted as having said, sounds okay to me.
But under no circumstances do I believe that Jesus said that most people will go to hell. For someone to say something like that there must be a wagonload of arrogance and I dont think Jesus was arrogant. Paul? Absolutely. The other apostles may have been arrogant. But since every thing Christians believe Jesus said comes from the pens of just about everyone except Jesus I would suggest you not take every quote as having come from Jesus. If the Apostles had not written what they are credited with having written, Christians might believe that Jesus was a deaf mute because Jesus never wrote a word..
Alkso keep in m ind......Jews do not concern themselves with Hell as Christrians do and Jesus was a Jew his entire life and he followed the thinking of most Jews of his day. So, if it says that "most people will go to hell", I suggest those words come from whoever is said to have written that section of the NT.

[David Hume]

Alkso keep in m ind......Jews do not concern themselves with Hell as Christrians do and Jesus was a Jew his entire life and he followed the thinking of most Jews of his day. So, if it says that "most people will go to hell", I suggest those words come from whoever is said to have written that section of the NT.


Actually, Jesus describes hell in Luke 16:22-28, and also mentions it in Matthew 13:42 & Matthew 25:41. He also talks of a future visit he will take to hell for three days in Matthew 12:40.

I know there's other spots, I just can't remember them right now.

[Newscaster]

Actually Luke describes Hell. Jesus did not because Jesus wrote nothing. Every single quote credited to Jesus comes from either Matthew Mark, Luke and John plus Paul. And Luke was written some 70 years after Jesus died.

[David Hume]

Actually Luke describes Hell. Jesus did not because Jesus wrote nothing. Every single quote credited to Jesus comes from either Matthew Mark, Luke and John plus Paul. And Luke was written some 70 years after Jesus died.


Well, technically speaking, it probably wasn't even Luke. But, most Biblical scholars at least attribute the red-letter portions of the Gospels to Jesus.

[Tsky]

If you mean hell as in 'burning place of torment controlled by the Devil where evil people are sent by God as a punishment for their sins' then the answer is no. Why? I would say because my knowledge of scripture has taught me that no such place exists.


What? Hell doesnt exist?

Psalm 55:15 Let death seize upon them, and let them go down quick into hell: for wickedness is in their dwellings, and among them.

Jesus says most people will go to hell:
Matt 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat
7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Matt 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.


A whole lot more where that came from.


Who said hell doesn't exist? Hell is a word King James made up to symbolize a fiery inferno overwhich the Devil rules. The Bible uses the Hebrew word Sheol and the Greek word, Hades. King James used the words grave, pit and hell to translate those two words. So is hell a grave, a pit or a fiery inferno? You tell me. If it is a fiery inferno, why did Jesus go there for 3 days? Furthermore, Rev. 20:13 says Hades (hell) will be emptied. That sounds more in line with Jesus promise to resurrected the dead, considering hell is the common grave, not a future plan to reconstructed burning bodies that were formerly in the place of everlasting torture (hell) and bring them to life, thereby defeating the purpose of having a place of everlasting torture in the first place.

I promise a true quest for knowledge and good translation of the Bible, preferably along with a discussion with someone who knows the Bible and can explain scripture will help many to see the truth about what it teaches.

[Newscaster]

I think the real question you should all ask..........why are you so afraid of going to hell. It couldnt have anything to do with the way you are leading your life that makes hell a likely destination, does it?

[PatrickHenry]

I think the real question you should all ask..........why are you so afraid of going to hell. It couldnt have anything to do with the way you are leading your life that makes hell a likely destination, does it?

Like I quoted the Main Guy above...It's ALL about how you lead your life...

[satyagraha]

To say that God only rewards only those who worship him portrays him as an arrogant and selfish entity. In my personal beliefs, the Christian God rewards all those who lead just lives, and whether you have been given the opportunity to believe in Christ shouldn't affect whether or not you get into heaven. In other words, it isn't what religion you practice, but how much you follow the path to ultimate morality.