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BoogyMan
07-27-2006, 09:17 PM
Link Here (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0%2C7340%2CL-3282279%2C00.html)

Exclusive: In conversation in Damascus, senior Syrian journalist tells about sentiments in Syria ('as if there will be war any moment'); talks about military preparations in his country ('identifying your reinforcements in Golan Heights'); and estimates that Israeli pounding in Lebanon to intensify grassroots support of Nasrallah and his organization. Also in Syria, he says, Nasrallah more popular than ever
Ali Waked

As the conflict with Hizbullah in Lebanon escalates by the day, the question of Syria's involvement in the conflict becomes increasingly more relevant.

"The atmosphere in Syria is in every way an atmosphere of war, or at least of the eve of war. Syrian television for the first time since

the '80's has started broadcasting Syrian military marches and nationalistic songs. There is not difference between Syrian television broadcasts and Al-Manar broadcasts of the Hizbullah. The broadcasts are in preparation for war, as if Syria is involved in this war, or is going to be involved at any moment. The local newspapers and the television are conducting themselves as if they are preparing the Syrian public for war."

These comments were made by a senior Syrian journalist in a telephone interview from Damascus. It isn't easy these days of war that they don't have there, to convince a Syrian to accept an interview with the Israeli media, even when we're not there. One must remember that each side has his messages to transmit. And yet, the picture sketched by this senior journalist reveals the great concern in Damascus about the operations of Israel – and definitively paints a picture of preparedness for war. A conversation with an interviewee beyond the Golan.

In Israel there is talk that Syria and her army have considerably raised their alert since the start of fighting in Lebanon. Is this indeed the reality there?

"This, in my opinion, is the reality where you are. The Syrian army has identified intensive activity of the Israeli army on the Golan Heights. At first they identified lights on some of the bases at night in Syria. We have noticed a rehabilitation and revival of the Israeli military bases on the Golan on which no one has set foot for more than ten years. We see Israeli soldiers rehabilitating these bases and equipping them."

Paranthetically, it should be mentioned in this article that from the beginning of IDF operations in Lebanon, the level of preparedness on the Golan Heights has been raised noticeably along the border between Syria and Israel. The IDF estimated that the Hizbullah has an interest of bringing Syria into the confrontation, and that the organization would not be loathe to launching Katyushas at the Golan Heights. However, Israel has openly declared that Damascus is out of the game at this point and that there is no intention to confront Syria. With this, the IDF heightened its intelligence alertness along the border, including a larger-than-usual military presence meant to respond to any development in the region.

Beyond the pre-war atmosphere that you described, is there deployment for war or concrete steps of the government and army towards the possibility that Syria will become part of the war?

"I can't say if the army is taking practical steps to prepare for such an option, but what is certain is that Syria has consolidated once and for all the stance that the current situation, especially the occupation of the Golan, needs to stop. If there will be a solution to the current war in Lebanon, we must be part of this solution. And that means negotiation and returning the Golan to the Syrians. And if there won't be a solution, the stance is that we must prepare to liberate the Golan through different means – there aren't many other ways."

How does the Syrian government respond to the accusations of sources in the IDF and in Israel that Syria isn't only aiding the Iranians to transfer weapons to the Hizbullah, but is contributing herself to the arming of Hizbullah with Syrian rockets?

"All the senior and official representatives who have been asked to respond to these accusations have stridently denied them. The official stance, and this is the truth, is that the trucks passing through that the Israeli army is bombing, are trucks for humanitarian aid, carrying food, equipment, and donations that the Syrian people raised or aid from other countries that arrives through Syria. For instance, one of the convoys that was bombed was a convoy of ambulances from the Emirates in the Gulf that was designated for the Lebanese people."

The Syrian journalist also claims that the nature of the explosions testify to the fact that the trucks were not carrying rockets, ammunition, or explosives. "True, there was one time that the explosion was different than the regular ones. This happened when Israeli planes bombed trucks carrying car oil. Then the explosion was different. Syrian television was the first to photograph this explosion. Would they have photographed if Syria had something to hide?

Is Syria ready for a script in which it assists the US to stop the Hizbullah in exchange for a return of Syrian influence in Lebanon and cancellation of anti-Syrian sanctions?

"Whoever has followed the mood in the government and in the Syrian street after the completion of the withdrawal from Lebanon, understands that the emphasis today from the perspective of the government and the Syrian people is on the Golan and the need to return it to Syria – and less on Lebanon."

So, how do you explain that many in Israel and in the world see Syria as a key to solving the current conflict?

"That is because of the special relationship between Syria and the Hizbullah. These are excellent relations, but Syria today doesn't enjoy the same influence over them that they did in the past."

As an example of the great fondness of Syrians for the Hizbullah, the Syrian journalist brings the following story: "In Syria, it is customary in homes, businesses, and shops to hang pictures of the president's family. A picture of the late president Hafez Assad in the center, to the left a picture of the current president, Dr. Bashar, and to the right a picture of the slain son Bassal, the president's brother, whom the Syrian people loved very much.

"But today, especially since the outbreak of fighting, the phenomenon gaining momentum is to swap the picture of the beloved Bassal with a picture of Hassan Nasrallah. This is to express how much we in Syria love and appreciate what Nasrallah has done for the Arab nation. Not for a specific community, not for his country, but for the entire Arab nation."

In Israel there is talk that the current war is a war of the home front and of the patience of the simple people for a continuation of the war situation. We hope that the rest of the war, especially the crushing air strikes and the destruction they wreak, will bring about an uprising of the Lebanese public against Hizbullah that will compel them to stop firing.

"Whoever says that doesn't know Lebanon and her population and hasn't been following the political developments in the period before the war. The Hizbullah's Shiite community is the largest community in Lebanon. Many Sunnis also support Hizbullah. Also, Hizbullah enjoys broad support in the most important section of the Christian population, that which is represented by the general, Michel Aoun, who won the majority of the Christian votes in parliamentary elections."

"We see, for example, Walid Junblatt, who severely criticized the events of the first few days, is the one who today provides cover and aid for thousands of refugees in his area of Mount Lebanon. He does this not only out of humanitarian motives, but also to improve his image a little in Lebanon.

"Even Hariri's representatives and their supporters adopting a similar approach and are dealing with humanitarian aid in order to weaken the criticism they gave at first. At the current time, the social fabric in Lebanon is rallying more and more around support for Hizbullah, giving them the necessary strength to continue this fight."

dsanthony
07-27-2006, 09:26 PM
Link Here (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0%2C7340%2CL-3282279%2C00.html)

Exclusive: In conversation in Damascus, senior Syrian journalist tells about sentiments in Syria ('as if there will be war any moment'); talks about military preparations in his country ('identifying your reinforcements in Golan Heights'); and estimates that Israeli pounding in Lebanon to intensify grassroots support of Nasrallah and his organization. Also in Syria, he says, Nasrallah more popular than ever
Ali Waked

As the conflict with Hizbullah in Lebanon escalates by the day, the question of Syria's involvement in the conflict becomes increasingly more relevant.

"The atmosphere in Syria is in every way an atmosphere of war, or at least of the eve of war. Syrian television for the first time since

the '80's has started broadcasting Syrian military marches and nationalistic songs. There is not difference between Syrian television broadcasts and Al-Manar broadcasts of the Hizbullah. The broadcasts are in preparation for war, as if Syria is involved in this war, or is going to be involved at any moment. The local newspapers and the television are conducting themselves as if they are preparing the Syrian public for war."

These comments were made by a senior Syrian journalist in a telephone interview from Damascus. It isn't easy these days of war that they don't have there, to convince a Syrian to accept an interview with the Israeli media, even when we're not there. One must remember that each side has his messages to transmit. And yet, the picture sketched by this senior journalist reveals the great concern in Damascus about the operations of Israel – and definitively paints a picture of preparedness for war. A conversation with an interviewee beyond the Golan.

In Israel there is talk that Syria and her army have considerably raised their alert since the start of fighting in Lebanon. Is this indeed the reality there?

"This, in my opinion, is the reality where you are. The Syrian army has identified intensive activity of the Israeli army on the Golan Heights. At first they identified lights on some of the bases at night in Syria. We have noticed a rehabilitation and revival of the Israeli military bases on the Golan on which no one has set foot for more than ten years. We see Israeli soldiers rehabilitating these bases and equipping them."

Paranthetically, it should be mentioned in this article that from the beginning of IDF operations in Lebanon, the level of preparedness on the Golan Heights has been raised noticeably along the border between Syria and Israel. The IDF estimated that the Hizbullah has an interest of bringing Syria into the confrontation, and that the organization would not be loathe to launching Katyushas at the Golan Heights. However, Israel has openly declared that Damascus is out of the game at this point and that there is no intention to confront Syria. With this, the IDF heightened its intelligence alertness along the border, including a larger-than-usual military presence meant to respond to any development in the region.

Beyond the pre-war atmosphere that you described, is there deployment for war or concrete steps of the government and army towards the possibility that Syria will become part of the war?

"I can't say if the army is taking practical steps to prepare for such an option, but what is certain is that Syria has consolidated once and for all the stance that the current situation, especially the occupation of the Golan, needs to stop. If there will be a solution to the current war in Lebanon, we must be part of this solution. And that means negotiation and returning the Golan to the Syrians. And if there won't be a solution, the stance is that we must prepare to liberate the Golan through different means – there aren't many other ways."

How does the Syrian government respond to the accusations of sources in the IDF and in Israel that Syria isn't only aiding the Iranians to transfer weapons to the Hizbullah, but is contributing herself to the arming of Hizbullah with Syrian rockets?

"All the senior and official representatives who have been asked to respond to these accusations have stridently denied them. The official stance, and this is the truth, is that the trucks passing through that the Israeli army is bombing, are trucks for humanitarian aid, carrying food, equipment, and donations that the Syrian people raised or aid from other countries that arrives through Syria. For instance, one of the convoys that was bombed was a convoy of ambulances from the Emirates in the Gulf that was designated for the Lebanese people."

The Syrian journalist also claims that the nature of the explosions testify to the fact that the trucks were not carrying rockets, ammunition, or explosives. "True, there was one time that the explosion was different than the regular ones. This happened when Israeli planes bombed trucks carrying car oil. Then the explosion was different. Syrian television was the first to photograph this explosion. Would they have photographed if Syria had something to hide?

Is Syria ready for a script in which it assists the US to stop the Hizbullah in exchange for a return of Syrian influence in Lebanon and cancellation of anti-Syrian sanctions?

"Whoever has followed the mood in the government and in the Syrian street after the completion of the withdrawal from Lebanon, understands that the emphasis today from the perspective of the government and the Syrian people is on the Golan and the need to return it to Syria – and less on Lebanon."

So, how do you explain that many in Israel and in the world see Syria as a key to solving the current conflict?

"That is because of the special relationship between Syria and the Hizbullah. These are excellent relations, but Syria today doesn't enjoy the same influence over them that they did in the past."

As an example of the great fondness of Syrians for the Hizbullah, the Syrian journalist brings the following story: "In Syria, it is customary in homes, businesses, and shops to hang pictures of the president's family. A picture of the late president Hafez Assad in the center, to the left a picture of the current president, Dr. Bashar, and to the right a picture of the slain son Bassal, the president's brother, whom the Syrian people loved very much.

"But today, especially since the outbreak of fighting, the phenomenon gaining momentum is to swap the picture of the beloved Bassal with a picture of Hassan Nasrallah. This is to express how much we in Syria love and appreciate what Nasrallah has done for the Arab nation. Not for a specific community, not for his country, but for the entire Arab nation."

In Israel there is talk that the current war is a war of the home front and of the patience of the simple people for a continuation of the war situation. We hope that the rest of the war, especially the crushing air strikes and the destruction they wreak, will bring about an uprising of the Lebanese public against Hizbullah that will compel them to stop firing.

"Whoever says that doesn't know Lebanon and her population and hasn't been following the political developments in the period before the war. The Hizbullah's Shiite community is the largest community in Lebanon. Many Sunnis also support Hizbullah. Also, Hizbullah enjoys broad support in the most important section of the Christian population, that which is represented by the general, Michel Aoun, who won the majority of the Christian votes in parliamentary elections."

"We see, for example, Walid Junblatt, who severely criticized the events of the first few days, is the one who today provides cover and aid for thousands of refugees in his area of Mount Lebanon. He does this not only out of humanitarian motives, but also to improve his image a little in Lebanon.

"Even Hariri's representatives and their supporters adopting a similar approach and are dealing with humanitarian aid in order to weaken the criticism they gave at first. At the current time, the social fabric in Lebanon is rallying more and more around support for Hizbullah, giving them the necessary strength to continue this fight."




Uh oh... the Syrians are mad. We better listen to you libs and surrender immediately.

BoogyMan
07-27-2006, 09:30 PM
Uh oh... the Syrians are mad.Â*Â*We better listen to you libs and surrender immediately.

You are calling ME a liberal!?Â*Â*Hahahahahahahahahah, you should actually read something here before you post.

This is hillarious. :)

CheesyMuslim
07-27-2006, 09:43 PM
Sorry bout that,

1. But its just about time that Syria gets it feet wet in this war.
2. You Syrians go on down into Lebanon and see how you come back in black bags.
3. If you dare, you go down there and see what awaits you from Israel.
4. I wonder why it took you so long to go down there.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

BoogyMan
07-27-2006, 09:48 PM
Sorry bout that,

1. But its just about time that Syria gets it feet wet in this war.
2. You Syrians go on down into Lebanon and see how you come back in black bags.
3. If you dare, you go down there and see what awaits you from Israel.
4. I wonder why it took you so long to go down there.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas


I was actually waiting for some sign of open hostility from Syria. I actually see Syria being used by Iran as a reason to get into the fray. Syria is not yet involved openly but I don't think it will be long as tensions increase.

lily
07-27-2006, 10:26 PM
Just for arguement's sake........I'm going to have to disagree with you Boogyman. I don't think Syria wants any part of this. Iran, yes. Syria no.

BoogyMan
07-27-2006, 10:38 PM
Just for arguement's sake........I'm going to have to disagree with you Boogyman. I don't think Syria wants any part of this. Iran, yes. Syria no.


Lets watch and see Lily. Can you expound upon why you think Syria doesn't want any part of the fracas?

PittsburghAfterDark
07-28-2006, 01:20 AM
The Israeli Air Force has had a great deal of combat experience, and was the victor in the most one-sided aerial combat since 1980 (the 1982 Bekaa Valley Turkey Shoot – 80 Syrian aircraft were shot down with no Israeli losses).
Link (http://www.strategypage.com/hotstuff/articles/dls20058161333.asp)

Unfortunately the Syrians have not upgraded their air force significantly since then. They may have a wing of MiG-29's but the majority of their air force still consists of the same types of fighter aircraft as 1982. They have not acquired Mirage's, SU-30's or any other late 4th generation fighter aircraft.
Link (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/syria/airforce.htm)

Examples of which would be the Mirage, F-15D/E, F-16 Bock 50's, F/A-18 Super Hornets, Tornado, Typhoon (Eurofighter). Possibly the SU-30 and MiG-31 though frankly, while they may match in pure aerodynamic performance with 4th generation Western fighters their armament and avionics suites lack in performance and reliability.

The Syrians would have to depend on a ground assault which would be downright foolish without air cover against the IAF raining cluster munitions, FAE's and phosphorous bombs on lightly armored vehicles, soft targets and exposed infantry. Not only would that be foolish, it would be suicidal.

I'm also willing to bet the Israelis are now in posession of some of our "brilliant pigs". The JSOW AIM-154A is a killing machine like none other on Earth and even in an Abrams, Challenger II, Leopard II or T-90 I would not like my chances against it.
Link on AIM-154A JSOW. (http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/smart/agm-154.htm)

Churchel
07-28-2006, 01:23 AM
Just for arguement's sake........I'm going to have to disagree with you Boogyman. I don't think Syria wants any part of this. Iran, yes. Syria no.


Lets watch and see Lily.Â*Â*Can you expound upon why you think Syria doesn't want any part of the fracas?



Its quite simple, the US sells the best war in the world.Â*Â*The war they buy does not compare. Ask the iranians!

lily
07-28-2006, 09:53 AM
Just for arguement's sake........I'm going to have to disagree with you Boogyman. I don't think Syria wants any part of this. Iran, yes. Syria no.


Lets watch and see Lily.Â*Â*Can you expound upon why you think Syria doesn't want any part of the fracas?



Well, for one thing, Rice first stopped off at Damascus, before going to Israel. Now I know if this was Bush, people would accept it, as just a breech of protocol....but Rice knows her ps&qs.Â*Â*Also as I mentioned before, Iran has a bigger stake in this. Who knows? As you said, we shall see (sadly)

.........but then I also think the US has a huge stake in not trying harder to stop this......Iraq is out of the spotlight and not only aren't they front page news, for two weeks, it is barely mentioned that Iraq's civilian casulties have gone up to over 100 per day, Bush instead of withdrawing troops, as promised, has instead (as also promised), that he will listen to the generals that are there and finally send in more troops. Also it keeps from the news that all air travel home, for the troops whos time is finally up has been canceled, thus bringing the troop numbers in Iraq to even more than have been told to us.

Don't get me wrong.......I think we should stay the hell out of Israel's business, but then I also think that we should stop playing games. IMO Israel owes us, they want more land, they also want the terrorists acts on their country to stop.....but then I would also imagine that Palestine also does....... and if they can kill two birds, or citizens with one stone, why not do it? I can think of no other logical reason, why Bush is giving them an artificial timetable of two to three weeks, when he won't abide by one himself.

.....but then I've really gone and changed the subject. So in answer again to your orginal question........sadly we shall have to wait and see. While hundreds die.

PittsburghAfterDark
07-28-2006, 10:57 AM
I fail to see how "they want more land" holds any validity whatsoever.

They gave back the Sinai, Gaza and were trying to give away the majority of the West Bank in 1996. They also offered to give back much of, though not all of, the Golan Heights.

Now, that doesn't sound like "they want more land" to me. Would you care to elaborate?

BoogyMan
07-28-2006, 11:05 AM
Its quite simple, the US sells the best war in the world.Â*Â*The war they buy does not compare. Ask the iranians!


Hi Churchel, I am hoping you will explain this last bit of commentary?

Old Corps Gunny
07-28-2006, 01:22 PM
It seems every new generation of Arabs has to prove itself against Israel, possibly because the mullahs, imams and sheikhs of the previous generations have passed down the endowment of hatred and bitterness from previous failures in their own confilicts with Israel. It stands to reason that Israel will increase its presence in the Golan Heights considering Syria's support of Hezbollah; it's much better to be prepared then to caught with your pants down.

Churchel
07-28-2006, 08:49 PM
Its quite simple, the US sells the best war in the world.Â*Â*The war they buy does not compare. Ask the iranians!


Hi Churchel, I am hoping you will explain this last bit of commentary?



http://www.iiaf.net/aircraft/jetfighters/F14/f14.html

Iran has plenty of our weaponry in their arsenel. It was sold through the 70's

What is interesting in the iran-iraq war was we were at some point supplying both sides with US made weapons. It is also interesting that don rumsfield was that guy.

lily
07-30-2006, 11:04 PM
I fail to see how "they want more land" holds any validity whatsoever.

They gave back the Sinai, Gaza and were trying to give away the majority of the West Bank in 1996.Â*Â*They also offered to give back much of, though not all of, the Golan Heights.

Now, that doesn't sound like "they want more land" to me.Â*Â*Would you care to elaborate?


Well...........since you took 4 words out of my entire post, then I really
don't know what to say. I was giving my opinion to Boogy and this was part
of it........but then, after giving your reply some thought, I have to ask
you........ that was awful generous of them.........why'd they do it and how did they get it in the first place?

want to get one thing straight, before the name calling starts. I do believe Israel has a right to exist. I also think both sides are at fault. I also think Israel totally over-reated. The genie is now out of the bottle. Israel is finding out, that they might have bit off more than they can chew. Also, after yesterday's bombing, they no longer have the world's sympathy. Guerilla warfare can not be fought from the air.