Brahmins and Kshatriyas of the spirit

[moses2792796]

I have long been in support of a social order structured around a caste system. Arguably the best and most organised version of this system is the one used by the Hindus, in Ancient India. The two highest castes were known as Brahmins and Kshatriyas. The Brahmins were responsible for relaying spiritual knowledge to the Kshatriyas who exercised control over the masses. During this time castes were defined by bloodlines, and since there was very little intermingling between castes, there rarely arose a situation where someone was not suitable for their caste. This was possible of course and exceptions were occasionally made but for the most part this was unnecessary because the social order was already established. When a member of any caste chose to intermingle with another they were stripped of their status and became ‘untouchable’.

The Hindus knew of a time when this system would be destroyed. Not only in India (which is currently undergoing a reform designed to destroy the core of Hinduism) but in all countries around the world there has been a direct assault on any type of social order. Castes have been replaced by capitalism, essentially removing social order and ensuring that modern society is motivated purely by greed or ‘self-interest’. This time is called the Kali Yuga, or dark age, in Hindu scripture, when spirituality is absent and civilisation is ruled by chaos. The castes have all but been destroyed.

What is important now is not bloodlines, modern society has become too disorganised for these to be of much use. What is important now is that the Brahmins and Kshatriyas of the spirit rise up against this chaos and attempt to prevent the further destruction of traditional values. Perhaps in another age we would have been Sudras, and we would have served our function well, but now all those who are capable, and who feel an affinity with the higher castes must assume their role. This is what www.ANUS.com and www.CORRUPT.org are for, to bring these people together and ensure that this knowledge is not forgotten, and hopefully, to minimise the damage that modern society will cause in the transition to a healthier one.

[Buck Laser]

Moses, that doesn't help me much at all. I looked at both those websites some time ago when "Anti-Racism" brought them up. Corrupt is so spaced-out and racist that I decided after the first look to have nothing to do with it. You may have seen the long-running argument with Anti about whether "race" is a realistic concept--and how he chose to hurl personal insults at anyone who disagreed with him. I have no patience with that kind of crap, and will walk away from it every time.

I think you should also recognize that Wikipedia isn't a particularly reliable source for the kind of information you're trying to present from it.

[moses2792796]

My main source is Julius Evola's "Revolt Against the Modern World" in which he cites "The Laws of Manu", "Upanisads", "The Bhagavad-Gita" and the "Vedas". Corrupt, while I must confess holds different views on race to my own is one of the few constructive political organisations in the modern world, and they are certainly not racist in the sense that they believe in the superiority of any particular race, they believe in the preservation of diversity. ANUS is an excellent start in philosophy for the inexperienced.

[December]

The two highest castes were known as Brahmins and Kshatriyas. The Brahmins were responsible for relaying spiritual knowledge to the Kshatriyas who exercised control over the masses. During this time castes were defined by bloodlines, and since there was very little intermingling between castes, there rarely arose a situation where someone was not suitable for their caste.

Hello, Moses27922796.
Here's one article for you which you may find interesting:

Eden Was the North Pole!
--A Capsulized History of the Predeluvial World and the Science of Human Behavior.
By Gene D. Matlock

One day, while doing my usual research on Ancient India at a nearby university, I asked a young Hindu student I met there whether he could explain why India, the mother of all human civilizations and religions, knew so little about its own ancient history. He said that Hindus fear they might discover that their families really descended from the lowest and most miserable of India's four castes, the Sudras.

At first, I naively accepted his explanation, for it's a historical fact that most of our American forefathers, from whatever nations, were the lowest of the low in their own respective countries of origin. Fortunately, my ancestors refused to believe that only the British Royal Family had the divine right to rule.

Later on, I found out that the problems Hindus have with their own ancient history had nothing to do with fear of finding out their grandparents were Sudras. They came to adopt many historical and spiritual traditions that occurred, not in the ancient Indian subcontinent, but thousands of miles northward at the North Pole!

Even the Turks and Siberians gratefully acknowledge that the Hindus unselfishly preserved the formers' own ancient history at the expense of their own.

Turkish-Russian Murad Adji expresses in his book, The Kipchaks -- An Ancient History of the Turkic People and the Great Steppe, his gratitude to the Hindus for preserving the Turks' and Siberians' ancient history which the Hindus mistakenly thought was their own:

'...an Indian page opened in Turkic history two thousand years ago, or even slightly earlier... The Hindus did a great honor to Turkic cultureÑthey have preserved for the Turkic race a sacred treasure that the Turkis have managed to forget.'

It's strange how mental conditioning can blind people to reality. At least, the Turks are willing to admit the truth that the Hindus preserved Turkish and Siberian history. I have actually heard Evangelical Christians say that God has punished those 'polytheistic Hindus' for their paganism by denying them knowledge of their own past. But Christians don't know much about their remote past either. At least, the Hindus know they are the parents of the rest of us in all areas. Furthermore, both the monotheistic Christians and the polytheistic Hindus are guilty of the same spiritual crimes. It's very troublesome for both Christians and Hindus to make sense out of Genesis 4:22: 'And the LORD GOD said, 'now that the man has become like one of US, etc., etc.' Mankind is still too primitive and stupid to know that atheists, monotheists, and polytheists are one and the same where true spiritual wisdom is concerned. We humans differ mainly in intelligence and propensities.

READ MORE-

http://www.viewzone.com/edenpole.html

[BillyPilgrim]

"During this time castes were defined by bloodlines, and since there was very little intermingling between castes, there rarely arose a situation where someone was not suitable for their caste."

Of course when you say that "there rarely arose a situation..." you are completely speculating. This statement has absolutely no basis in fact.

"When a member of any caste chose to intermingle with another they were stripped of their status and became ‘untouchable’."

Yeah, this seems like a good idea. Are you shitting me?

"Perhaps in another age we would have been Sudras"

Actually if you had even the briefest understanding of the varna-ashram system you'd know that the communistic movement IS the Sudras taking over. Varn-Ashram is all about one's individual propensity, not birthright.

[moses2792796]

"During this time castes were defined by bloodlines, and since there was very little intermingling between castes, there rarely arose a situation where someone was not suitable for their caste."

Of course when you say that "there rarely arose a situation..." you are completely speculating. This statement has absolutely no basis in fact.

"When a member of any caste chose to intermingle with another they were stripped of their status and became ‘untouchable’."

Yeah, this seems like a good idea. Are you shitting me?

"Perhaps in another age we would have been Sudras"

Actually if you had even the briefest understanding of the varna-ashram system you'd know that the communistic movement IS the Sudras taking over. Varn-Ashram is all about one's individual propensity, not birthright.


Actually my source is the "Laws of Manu", I'd say that's credible

You're rejection of the idea stems from a misunderstanding of traditional principles, it's the same reason that modern people despise ancient civilisations for employing the use of slaves not realising that most modern people are slaves by the traditional definition.[hr]December, I'd say that anyone who thought that Hindus feared they were Sudras would not have a thourough understanding of the caste system. The Sudras were actually treated much better by their superiors than for instance, a modern cleaner or garbage man. These people are shunned by a society which claims equality. Hindus understood that different people had different abilities and celebated this diversity, unlike modern society which fears it.

[BillyPilgrim]

"modern people despise ancient civilisations for employing the use of slaves not realising that most modern people are slaves by the traditional definition."

I think that pretty much sums up the ridiculousness of your ideas.

[moses2792796]

If you would care to make a point rather than resort to pointless personal insults I will be listening.

[BillyPilgrim]

You start with an incorrect assumption about modern people hating ancient civilizations and proceed somehow equating us a slaves. Not to mention the silly idea of people being born into some rigid class structure that determines what sort of work they need do.

[moses2792796]

Perhaps hating ancient civilisations is not the right way of putting it, what I meant was the majority of Americans consider their civilisation to be superior to any that came before it.

[Scorpion]

Perhaps hating ancient civilisations is not the right way of putting it, what I meant was the majority of Americans consider their civilisation to be superior to any that came before it.


America, or more properly the United Sates, isn't a civilization. It is a political and multi-cultural social entity.