A Book of Pagan Prayer

[December]

I went to the book store yesterday and dicovered A Book of Pagan Prayer.

The author claims that there are plenty of ancient texts that contain Pagan prayers, but there no such (ancient) prayers in the book.
It seems like all the prayers in that are todays creations...

So are there any ancient texts that contain Pagan prayers?
Does anyone know?...

http://imshopping.rediff.com/books/imagechek/books/pixs/52/1578632552.jpg

http://www.amazon.com/Book-Pagan-Prayer-Ceisiwr-Serith/dp/1578632552

[Scorpion]

Planning on whipping up a few demons and spreading a curse or two?

[December]

Planning on whipping up a few demons and spreading a curse or two?


No.
Do you have an answer to my question?

[AnnEsthesia]

Well, most pagan traditions were oral ones, so I doubt you would find an ancient written text.

[Scorpion]

Planning on whipping up a few demons and spreading a curse or two?


No.
Do you have an answer to my question?


Yes, I do. Do you understand Druid writings?

[December]

This is very good point, AnnEsthesia. And it is especially true when it come to the Druids.
However, we do have Greek ancient texts for example, and the Greeks were not Christians, of course, at the time these texts were written.
And Ancient Egyptians left plenty of books for us as well...

Here's what I found:

Pagan Prayers
by Marah Ellis Ryan
[1913]

On the Writing of a Prayer of Praise (Mexican)
To the Creative God (Accadian)
Apache Prayer (American)
Navajo Liturgy (American)
Address to Supreme Deity (Assyrian)
A Prayer for the Dying (Assyrian)
Babylonian Prayer For Health (Exorcism of Spirits of Disease)
Prayer to the Sun (Chaldean)
Magical Incantation (Chaldean)
Chinese Liturgy
Chinese Prayer
Prayer of Transformation Into a Lotus (Egyptian)
A Prayer for Preservation of the Heart (Egyptian)
Hymn to Amun-Ra (Egyptian)
Prayer of the Sower (Finnish)
Hymn To Panu (Finnish)
The Salutation of the Dawn (Hindu)
Prayer to Buddha (Buddhist)
Hymn to Agni (Hindu)
Prayer of the Gambler (Hindu)
Prayer to Kami-Dana (Japanese)
Prayer of the Singer (Mexican)
Hymn Of Tla-loc (Mexican)
Hymn to the All-Mother (Mexican)
Hymn of the God of Flowers (Mexican)
Prayer to the Mexican God of Fire (Mexican)
The Prayer of the Maize (Mexican)
Hymn To Cihua-coatl (Mexican)
Prayer to the God of Thieves (South Pacific Island)
Invocation to Ormazd (Persian)
Mohammedan Prayer of Adoration (Persian)
An Inca's Death Prayer (Peruvian)
Hymn to the Unknown God (Peruvian)

http://www.sacred-texts.com/pag/ppr/

http://www.wilsonsalmanac.com/images2/druids_cutting_mistletoe.jpg

[Scorpion]

This is very good point, AnnEsthesia. And it is especially true when it come to the Druids.
However, we do have Greek ancient texts for example, and the Greeks were not Christians, of course, at the time these texts were written.
And Ancient Egyptians left plenty of books for us as well...

Here's what I found:

Pagan Prayers
by Marah Ellis Ryan
[1913]

On the Writing of a Prayer of Praise (Mexican)
To the Creative God (Accadian)
Apache Prayer (American)
Navajo Liturgy (American)
Address to Supreme Deity (Assyrian)
A Prayer for the Dying (Assyrian)
Babylonian Prayer For Health (Exorcism of Spirits of Disease)
Prayer to the Sun (Chaldean)
Magical Incantation (Chaldean)
Chinese Liturgy
Chinese Prayer
Prayer of Transformation Into a Lotus (Egyptian)
A Prayer for Preservation of the Heart (Egyptian)
Hymn to Amun-Ra (Egyptian)
Prayer of the Sower (Finnish)
Hymn To Panu (Finnish)
The Salutation of the Dawn (Hindu)
Prayer to Buddha (Buddhist)
Hymn to Agni (Hindu)
Prayer of the Gambler (Hindu)
Prayer to Kami-Dana (Japanese)
Prayer of the Singer (Mexican)
Hymn Of Tla-loc (Mexican)
Hymn to the All-Mother (Mexican)
Hymn of the God of Flowers (Mexican)
Prayer to the Mexican God of Fire (Mexican)
The Prayer of the Maize (Mexican)
Hymn To Cihua-coatl (Mexican)
Prayer to the God of Thieves (South Pacific Island)
Invocation to Ormazd (Persian)
Mohammedan Prayer of Adoration (Persian)
An Inca's Death Prayer (Peruvian)
Hymn to the Unknown God (Peruvian)

http://www.sacred-texts.com/pag/ppr/

http://www.wilsonsalmanac.com/images2/druids_cutting_mistletoe.jpg


Looks like you'll be busy reading for awhile. Are you planning on building a neat Druid treehouse in which to practice your pagan rituals?

[December]

Bourne, I asked you - Do you have an answer to my question?
You said "Yes", but didn't answer, and instead you aksed me a question. So you answered with a question...

Yes, I do. Do you understand Druid writings?

Bourne, if you have an answer to my question than answer it because I don't have time to sit in the Internet. :)

Druid writings? They don't exist.

[Scorpion]

Bourne, I asked you - Do you have an answer to my question?
You said "Yes", but didn't answer, and instead you aksed me a question. So you answered with a question...

Yes, I do. Do you understand Druid writings?

Bourne, if you have an answer to my question than answer it because I don't have time to sit in the Internet. :)

Druid writings? They don't exist.


Actually they do.

http://altreligion.about.com/library/weekly/aa022203a.htm

And stop sitting IN the internet.[/b]

[Buck Laser]

What exactly do you mean by pagan prayers? Are you referring specifically to the European pagan tradition and its variants? Or do you mean non Xn religions? There's an awful lot of stuff out there, so it would be helpful to have some idea of what kind of "pagan" stuff you're looking for.

[ViolaLee]

Planning on whipping up a few demons and spreading a curse or two?


You have little knowledge of paganism, obviously just the Christian brainwashing pseudo knowledge.

It's so sad that Christians are so misinformed by the Church.

[Labrocca]

One has to also wonder how much Pagan material was destroyed by Christians during the Crusades.

[AnnEsthesia]

They destroyed a lot and they also absorbed a lot. They took what the native people believed and used it to convert them by means of making it familiar.

"Oh? You worship a sun god? Guess what?!?! Ours is one too!"

"What? You worship the solstices and equinoxes? Wow! We have events then too!"

"You mean you celebrate the spring too?? "

[Elrathin]

Yep the absorbed a lot of Pagan Material, how about Christmas for one. Yet there are HONESTLY MANY Christians that believe Christ was born Dec 25th. HAHAHAHAHA

[AnnEsthesia]

lol... here is a better one, Elrathin.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=aJj9K4AyIa8[hr]Here is the full clip:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ckb0Pwfpkbc

[Pookie]

Well, back to the topic, there were many Druidic writings but the majority of them have been passed from word to mouth, which could be translated into (the measurement of time back then.

Poor Mary! I wonder if she really knew who she was carrying inside her.
Bless her soul.
Amen.
Purrs,
Pookie

[Shintao]

This is very good point, AnnEsthesia. And it is especially true when it come to the Druids.
However, we do have Greek ancient texts for example, and the Greeks were not Christians, of course, at the time these texts were written.
And Ancient Egyptians left plenty of books for us as well...


There is some disagreement here. Egyptian religion had one superior godhead IIIrd royal dynasty, Ptah RA as a constant, with lesser Gods subservant to him, much like a Christian has angels subservant to their idol jesus, and a God head. I don't want to get into a depth on this, but you can read this page to understand.

http://members.tripod.com/historel/egypt/10egypt.htm

[December]

One has to also wonder how much Pagan material was destroyed by Christians during the Crusades.


The Christians were doing it because the Old (Jewish) Testament demands it.
Read the Deuteronomy.[hr]

Bourne, I asked you - Do you have an answer to my question?
You said "Yes", but didn't answer, and instead you aksed me a question. So you answered with a question...

Yes, I do. Do you understand Druid writings?

Bourne, if you have an answer to my question than answer it because I don't have time to sit in the Internet. :)

Druid writings? They don't exist.


Actually they do.

http://altreligion.about.com/library/weekly/aa022203a.htm



Bourne, where does it say in the site that you linked that Druid writings still exist?

[Scorpion]

One has to also wonder how much Pagan material was destroyed by Christians during the Crusades.


The Christians were doing it because the Old (Jewish) Testament demands it.
Read the Deuteronomy.[hr]

Bourne, I asked you - Do you have an answer to my question?
You said "Yes", but didn't answer, and instead you aksed me a question. So you answered with a question...

Yes, I do. Do you understand Druid writings?

Bourne, if you have an answer to my question than answer it because I don't have time to sit in the Internet. :)

Druid writings? They don't exist.


Actually they do.

http://altreligion.about.com/library/weekly/aa022203a.htm



Bourne, where does it say in the site that you linked that Druid writings still exist?



Sorry, I forgot that you haven't got the ability to do a little research on your own. Too busy googling up pictures of Russian submarines and third rate dictators.

Here's a link to a Druid source bibliography.

[December]

Sorry, I forgot that you haven't got the ability to do a little research on your own.

Bourne, I didn't ask you to help me to do a research.
I asked you a simple question - where does it say in the site that you linked to that Druid writings still exist?


Druid writings? They don't exist.

Actually they do.
http://altreligion.about.com/library/weekly/aa022203a.htm

[Scorpion]

Sorry, I forgot that you haven't got the ability to do a little research on your own.

Bourne, I didn't ask you to help me to do a research.
I asked you a simple question - where does it say in the site that you linked to that Druid writings still exist?


Druid writings? They don't exist.

Actually they do.
http://altreligion.about.com/library/weekly/aa022203a.htm



Do some simple research and you'll have answered your own question.

[December]

Do some simple research and you'll have answered your own question.

You said that already. (You sound like a cop by the way...) :D

Anyway, I did some research and I know that the Druid texts do NOT exist.
But you claim that they do, and to prove your point you posted an link.
So my question to you is - where does in the site that you posted say that Druid texts exist?
Can you answer that?

:)

[December]

Admin(s) edited my post. Why is that?

[Shintao]

Admin(s) edited my post. Why is that?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Druid

This could help you a lot.:peace:

[December]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Druid

This could help you a lot.:peace:


I studied Druids for the past 7 years, so there is nothing new for me in the Wiki articles...
Thanks anyway. :)

Try this site, Shintao - http://www.sacred-texts.com/pag/ppr/index.htm

[Scorpion]

[b]I studied Druids for the past 7 years, so there is nothing new for me in the Wiki articles...



Since you must be an expert concerning Druids you certainly don't need my help in researching sources of Druid text.

[Shintao]

What I really resent is the Christian attitude that their religion is all conclusive and everybody else has pagan religions. I would think any religion that worships a mythical diety is not a pagan religion. What kind of non-pagan religion mutilates penises in rituals? I think the line is drawn in worshiping rocks, earth, wind, sea.

[Scorpion]

What I really resent is the Christian attitude that their religion is all conclusive and eveybody else has pagan religions. I would think any religion that worships a mythical diety is not a pagan religion. That the line is drawn in worshiping rocks, earth, wind, sea.


Christians recognize a wide variety of non-christian religions. Non-christian religions are not categorically referred to as "pagan."