Do you respect your constitution anymore ?

[qwerty]

Or is a pice of paper for you, do you even know what it says ?

[qwerty]

More know Simpsons than Constitution

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11611015/

[Wndrtch]

More know Simpsons than Constitution

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11611015/


We can thank our "superior" public education system for that. They are far more interested in passing out condoms to 11yr olds, than teaching basic Civics.

[Elrathin]

We can thank our "superior" public education system for that. They are far more interested in passing out condoms to 11yr olds, than teaching basic Civics.


Really? When I was in school the constitution was taught. In fact it still is taught, whether the child chooses to remember it or pay attention to it is another story. What school did you go to? It might explain a whole lot about you then if the constitution was not taught.

Oh and is it really the fault of the school system? I mean what's stopping you as a parent from getting involved with your child's learning? Ooops, there's that personal responsibility thing that many conservatives like to say, but don't do.

[AlanC]

The United States Constitution, as written by the originators, is one of the most remarkable documents in the history of civilization.

What has been done to it since then, has been a mixed bag, but it has survived remarkably well.

I was given a full appreciation of the Constitution in school, but then I was in a parochial school system.

I hope that I have passed on my appreciation for that document to my son, but, then that was easier as he was in a parochial school for most of his life too.

Judging from the abuse the Constitution has been subjected to over the decades, I don't think there has been a consistent effort on the part of anyone to keep its articles in the proper light. But that is just me.

[Deadshot]

More know Simpsons than Constitution

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11611015/


We can thank our "superior" public education system for that. They are far more interested in passing out condoms to 11yr olds, than teaching basic Civics.


Well, Wnd, I've got to ask you, what were you interested in school?

I know that my life, at 11, revolved around Basketball, Football, Baseball and girls.

By 14 it was Basketball, Football, girls and baseball

By 16 is was Football, girls, Basketball and Baseball

And by College it was pretty much just girls.

So tell me, Wnd, were you deeping interested in Article IV or Ammendment 20 or The Bill of Rights in grade, middle and/or high school? I learned about these things in all three levels, but they didn't mean much to me until I got older.

Your crack about "condoms to 11 yr. olds" is a great sound bite and maybe even a good bumper sticker, but hardly true. They do teach Civics and the Constitution from about 5th grade on. But unless you're in Law Enforcement or a Lawyer, it doesn't mean much to you. That's what so great about the Constitution and our Country. We don't notice, nor need to notice, the law until it involves us, and for the majority of Americans, it NEVER involves you!

[Alonzo]

Do you respect your constitution anymore ?


In the words of Ralph Wiggum: I ated it.

[qwerty]

Do you respect your constitution anymore ?


In the words of Ralph Wiggum: I ated it.


I really could believe that a Hillary supporter would do it... :thumbsup:

[AnnEsthesia]

So I guess making fun of the supporters of candidates is ok as long as it is not Ron Paul?

[Wndrtch]

Really? When I was in school the constitution was taught. In fact it still is taught, whether the child chooses to remember it or pay attention to it is another story. What school did you go to? It might explain a whole lot about you then if the constitution was not taught.[/quote]

You may have a point there. I guess I was speaking to my own experience growing up. I went to a Vocational High School for Electronics, and never had anyhting like a "civics" class. I got my civics in, because at an early age, I was intrigued with American History, and read a lot regarding our nations founding. One of my favorit books is one called "Patriots: The Men Who Started the American Revolution" by A.J. Langguth. I also read many of the Federalists Papers, letters by Thomas Jefferson and Ben Franklin (one of my favorite Founders).

The condom thing, was in reference to a local issue, that is often a discussion around here.

Oh and is it really the fault of the school system? I mean what's stopping you as a parent from getting involved with your child's learning? Ooops, there's that personal responsibility thing that many conservatives like to say, but don't do.
[/quote]

I didn't have a kid in High School. If I did, I would have had bigger concerns than learning American Civics.[hr]
Well, Wnd, I've got to ask you, what were you interested in school?

I know that my life, at 11, revolved around Basketball, Football, Baseball and girls.

By 14 it was Basketball, Football, girls and baseball

By 16 is was Football, girls, Basketball and Baseball

And by College it was pretty much just girls.

So tell me, Wnd, were you deeping interested in Article IV or Ammendment 20 or The Bill of Rights in grade, middle and/or high school? I learned about these things in all three levels, but they didn't mean much to me until I got older.

I had American History, but I don't recall anything specific to the Constitution or Bill of Rights. I learned about that much later, on my own.

Your crack about "condoms to 11 yr. olds" is a great sound bite and maybe even a good bumper sticker, but hardly true.

Sorry, my bad. I should have said "the pill". It was a local story around here for a while.

http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/story.php?id=140910&ac=PHnws

That's what so great about the Constitution and our Country. We don't notice, nor need to notice, the law until it involves us, and for the majority of Americans, it NEVER involves you![/color]

Great comment, Dead. I'll +1 that all day long, and add to it that Government in general should follow in the same light. People NOT needing the Government, is a good thing.

[Elrathin]

You may have a point there. I guess I was speaking to my own experience growing up. I went to a Vocational High School for Electronics, and never had anyhting like a "civics" class. I got my civics in, because at an early age, I was intrigued with American History, and read a lot regarding our nations founding. One of my favorit books is one called "Patriots: The Men Who Started the American Revolution" by A.J. Langguth. I also read many of the Federalists Papers, letters by Thomas Jefferson and Ben Franklin (one of my favorite Founders).

Ok, that was interesting, I didn't know they had vocational High schools that specialized in Electronics. Electronics BTW is my secondary hobby, I learned most on my own including Differential Equations and how to do Laplace Transforms for circuits. Real interesting field.


I didn't have a kid in High School. If I did, I would have had bigger concerns than learning American Civics.

My point being is that parents shouldn't rely on the school for everything important. If the constitution is really important to you as a parent for your child to know, you can always re-inforce that by talking with your child about it.

The school isn't the sole teachers of a child, there are also the parents. If the parents choose to take a backseat and let the school do everything, then you get what you put in.


I had American History, but I don't recall anything specific to the Constitution or Bill of Rights. I learned about that much later, on my own.

Well I never encountered a school like the one you went to, but normally it is introduced in American History in a basic form.


Sorry, my bad. I should have said "the pill". It was a local story around here for a while.

http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/story.php?id=140910&ac=PHnws

Interesting enough the pill also lessens the cramps of a women's period as well. I know several female friends who were not sexually active, however, they used the pill to help with the monthly discomfort.

I still have no problem with the pill being made available, either for lessening a period or being sexually active. I'd rather a female not have an unwanted pregnancy.

[Scorpion]

The United States Constitution, as written by the originators, is one of the most remarkable documents in the history of civilization.

What has been done to it since then, has been a mixed bag, but it has survived remarkably well.

I was given a full appreciation of the Constitution in school, but then I was in a parochial school system.

I hope that I have passed on my appreciation for that document to my son, but, then that was easier as he was in a parochial school for most of his life too.

Judging from the abuse the Constitution has been subjected to over the decades, I don't think there has been a consistent effort on the part of anyone to keep its articles in the proper light. But that is just me.


Well said Alan. It takes a conservative to realize the value in such a remarkable achievement as our Constitution. Imagine, a document written over 200 years ago and still functioning exquisitely to guard our rights and freedoms.

I revere the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence as cornerstones of our republic and a model for the rest of the world.

[Shintao]

I tend to believe that a two year American obligation should transpire following high school. A very ridged military setting during drills, (they would continue to live at home) where young adults work in their own communities and apply the Constitutional form of government, and learn about the American Creed and other important documents. Morals, Ethics, and disipline would be the focus of this humanitarian effort, an attempt to turn around our youth.

[Scorpion]

I tend to believe that a two year American obligation should transpire following high school. A very ridged military setting during drills, (they would continue to live at home) where young adults work in their own communities and apply the Constitutional form of government, and learn about the American Creed and other important documents. Morals, Ethics, and disipline would be the focus of this humanitarian effort, an attempt to turn around our youth.


Sounds like a remake of the now defunct USSR.

[Buck Laser]

I tend to believe that a two year American obligation should transpire following high school. A very ridged military setting during drills, (they would continue to live at home) where young adults work in their own communities and apply the Constitutional form of government, and learn about the American Creed and other important documents. Morals, Ethics, and disipline would be the focus of this humanitarian effort, an attempt to turn around our youth.


Sounds like a remake of the now defunct USSR.

Or Israel. I've favored Universal National Service for as long as I can remember. I feel a whole lot safer when we have an army with enough conscripts in it that they won't put up with the kind of bullshit the administration has been trying to pull for the last seven years.

Universal service--no exemptions for gender, alternatives to military service, remedial training/therapy where appropriate, and educational benefits in compensation. And I don't give a rat's ass whether the Soviet Union did it.

[PatrickHenry]

It takes a conservative to realize the value in such a remarkable achievement as our Constitution. Imagine, a document written over 200 years ago and still functioning exquisitely to guard our rights and freedoms.

I revere the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence as cornerstones of our republic and a model for the rest of the world.
Conservatives routinely trash the constitution.

The constitution functions poorly, if at all, in an age of Emergency.

Liberals and Conservatives both swear to uphold it and don't even recognize that the current state of affairs is flushing it. The only authority a government has to shove a badge and gun in your face is that document. But it is ignored consistently.[hr]I've favored Universal National Service for as long as I can remember
The children of the elite will be exempt.

[Elrathin]

Well said Alan. It takes a conservative to realize the value in such a remarkable achievement as our Constitution. Imagine, a document written over 200 years ago and still functioning exquisitely to guard our rights and freedoms.

I revere the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence as cornerstones of our republic and a model for the rest of the world.


Bourne I will say you are a fresh breath of air for some conservatives I have seen here. However, I disagree with you in two regards. The constitution has not remained in tact in full for 200 years. There have been many amendments done to the constitution since its enactment.

The second thing I will disagree with you on is that it takes a conservative to see the importance of the constitution. So called conservatives in office have stretched the constitution to it's limits and depending on who you talk to, might have even broken it.

I use the word might because it is unclear yet. Time will prove whether or not they have or not.

I would say the spirit of the constitution is indeed alive, but I wouldn't say it is the same after 200 years.

[Shintao]

I tend to believe that a two year American obligation should transpire following high school. A very ridged military setting during drills, (they would continue to live at home) where young adults work in their own communities and apply the Constitutional form of government, and learn about the American Creed and other important documents. Morals, Ethics, and disipline would be the focus of this humanitarian effort, an attempt to turn around our youth.


Sounds like a remake of the now defunct USSR.


Huh? I don't think the defunct USSR caved because of a disipline program do you? Japan does it quite well. I believe Switzerland does it quite well. The idea is to take the last chance to instill pride of country in its people through our documents, rather than gang bangers, low riders, misfits & perverts with hoods sucking up video games until they are 56 & then run for president. Working in their communities with adults could be a healthy caring activity. Cleaning our streets & sidewalks as well. People who litter have no respect of their country.