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qwerty
12-06-2007, 06:58 AM
'Independents' Can Vote for Democrats but Not Republicans in California Primary
http://laist.com/2007/12/03/independent_primary_voter.php
OMG....
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Insecurity. Democrats trust the people. It's clear that Republicans do not. At least, that's how I see it.
qwerty
12-06-2007, 08:16 AM
Insecurity. Democrats trust the people. It's clear that Republicans do not. At least, that's how I see it.
GOP don´t like Ron Paul...Gop/elitists don´t want Ron Paul to win...
Actually, I think it's the other way around. I think Ron Paul scares the crap out of the GOP. Him and Mike Huckabee. I predicted this last year when he announced. He's the one that the GOP regulars have to watch out for.
Wndrtch
12-06-2007, 03:27 PM
Insecurity. Democrats trust the people. It's clear that Republicans do not. At least, that's how I see it.
GOP don´t like Ron Paul...Gop/elitists don´t want Ron Paul to win...
We Republicans, lean towards leaders that want to win wars, not loose them.
Ron openly calls on us to fail and run-away from a fight, because it is difficult. If I wanted that, I would vote for any one of the Democrats.
Elrathin
12-06-2007, 03:56 PM
The RNC is just scared. Plain and simple. Their GOP is a dying breed and good riddance.
Wndrtch
12-06-2007, 04:01 PM
The RNC is just scared. Plain and simple. Their GOP is a dying breed and good riddance.
And the DNC is shilling for terrorists. Congradulations. I hope you can find Mecca with a compass.
Elrathin
12-06-2007, 04:06 PM
And the DNC is shilling for terrorists. Congradulations. I hope you can find Mecca with a compass.
Perfect example of why the GOP is a dying breed. When you come up with some facts let me know, until then keep with your "Clinton Conspiracies".
No, the DNC is not shilling for terrorists, but the RNC is filled with a bunch of ego maniacs that can't handle the truth and would rather keep people dying then wake up to reality that "stay the course" is not the answer.
And actually yes, I can find Mecca with a compass, unlike some in the GOP that have no idea geographically where to find anything other than their next gay hookup or drug fix.
qwerty
12-06-2007, 04:22 PM
We Republicans, lean towards leaders that want to win wars, not loose them.
They are just trying to save their faces, they have been pushing this war so much that admitting that IRAQ war failed would destroy them. That´s one thing a politician will not do..
Ron openly calls on us to fail and run-away from a fight, because it is difficult. If I wanted that, I would vote for any one of the Democrats.
He has been agaisnt the war from the beginning...
70% of Americans want the troops out, so without Ron Paul GOP is doomed, so simple...
It shows that most of Americans are not war-mongers like you...Let me guess, you have not been in Army...?
Wndrtch
12-06-2007, 09:41 PM
They are just trying to save their faces, they have been pushing this war so much that admitting that IRAQ war failed would destroy them. That’s one thing a politician will not do..
Similar to the way the cut & run crowd has invested hook-line-and-sinker to America's failure.
He has been against the war from the beginning...
Yup! Do nothing about 911. That's leadership alright :dizzy:
70% of Americans want the troops out, so without Ron Paul GOP is doomed, so simple...
I want them home too, but as victors, not as losers.
BTW - Link please, for the poll. You can't throw out a poll, without the context of the question asked.
It shows that most of Americans are not war-mongers like you...Let me guess, you have not been in Army...?
Beats being a pacifist shill for the terrorists, who wouldn't hesitate to kill you and your family. The Nazi's had a term for people like that, "useful idiots". I'm sure Ahmedinijad would be proud of Ron.
Wndrtch
12-06-2007, 10:42 PM
Perfect example of why the GOP is a dying breed. When you come up with some facts let me know, until then keep with your "Clinton Conspiracies".
FACT: Terrorists want us out of Iraq...
FACT: Democrats want us out of Iraq...
FACT: Terrorist call our soldiers murders of inocent people...
FACT: Democrats call our soldiers murders of inocent people...
FACT: US soldiers want to succeed...
LOGICAL CONCLUSION: Democrats have more incommon with terrorists, than our soldiers.
No, the DNC is not shilling for terrorists, but the RNC is filled with a bunch of ego maniacs that can't handle the truth and would rather keep people dying then wake up to reality that "stay the course" is not the answer.
To pull out of Iraq prematurely, is to give the terrorist exactly what they want, ergo, Democrats are shilling for terrorists.
And actually yes, I can find Mecca with a compass, unlike some in the GOP that have no idea geographically where to find anything other than their next gay hookup or drug fix.
He, he, he...
http://gaypatriot.net/2006/05/06/patrick-kennedy-and-the-democrats-culture-of-corruption
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We Republicans, lean towards leaders that want to win wars, not loose them.
You got a real winner on your hands now with Bush because he's going to go down in history as the first president to lose two wars in the same administration.
Ron openly calls on us to fail and run-away from a fight, because it is difficult. If I wanted that, I would vote for any one of the Democrats.
Ron Paul calls for ending a war that should have never been fought in the first place. Funny how the Yellow Elephant Brigade loves fighting all these wars as long as they are not the ones dying for their country. Paul is the only Republican with any true courage to stand up and say that this war was wrong.
And the DNC is shilling for terrorists. Congradulations. I hope you can find Mecca with a compass.
What a completely ignorant assessment. If you had proof, real proof, you would have brought it. You don't so your claim is just a lot of BS dressed up to go to the prom but still stinking like crap. Try again.
Similar to the way the cut & run crowd has invested hook-line-and-sinker to America's failure.
Another patented RNC BS line which means nothing. If you ever brought any substance to a debate here, I would be very surprised. Parroting catch phrases may sound good on the nightly news and play well with Fox news viewers but most of us already know that drill and it's all smoke, no fire.
Yup! Do nothing about 911. That's leadership alright
Gee... why does that line fit George Bush better than anyone else? Maybe because the murderer of our people is still at large after six years and still taunting us. Yep! That's good old Republican leadership all right!
I want them home too, but as victors, not as losers.
BTW - Link please, for the poll. You can't throw out a poll, without the context of the question asked.
Here's your link. It's only 68% but that's close enough. (http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/11/08/war.poll/)
If they come home alive they come home as victors. It's when they come home in a box that they lose. The real LOSERS are the idiots that sent them there in the first place and have no exit strategy for a quagmire.
Beats being a pacifist shill for the terrorists, who wouldn't hesitate to kill you and your family. The Nazi's had a term for people like that, "useful idiots". I'm sure Ahmedinijad would be proud of Ron.
Man, quoting the Nazis to make a point in bashing Democrats HAS to be a new low on this board. What's next? Accusing anyone who is against you as being a hater of the military or a terrorist sympathizer? That's when you know you have nothing left to offer except fear-mongering, namecalling, and empty rhetoric.
To pull out of Iraq prematurely, is to give the terrorist exactly what they want, ergo, Democrats are shilling for terrorists.
To stay in Iraq merely creates more terrorists so the republicans must be recruiting terrorists that Democrats are only shilling for. Which crime is worse: recruiting new terrorists or "making excuses" for them?
FACT: Terrorists want us out of Iraq...
FACT: Democrats want us out of Iraq...
FACT: Terrorist call our soldiers murders of inocent people...
FACT: Democrats call our soldiers murders of inocent people...
FACT: US soldiers want to succeed...
LOGICAL CONCLUSION: Democrats have more incommon with terrorists, than our soldiers.
FACT: Iraqis want us out of Iraq because our presence only recruits more terrorists to come and fight the Americans
FACT: Innocent civilians are being killed because of attacks on our troops that take place in non-military areas
FACT: Neocons want to stay in Iraq even though the Iraqi government has made no progress towards reconciliation or peace and are willing to sacrifice American lives for Iraqi politicians who do nothing to make their situation better
FACT: Recruitment goals for the military are not being met month after month because the American public has turned against the war
FACT: Incompetence in planning the war, executing the war, sustaining the war and training Iraqi troops to replace American troops to fight the war leads to needless deaths of American troops
FACT: Billions of American tax dollars have been wasted in Iraq due to incompetent oversight, insufficient planning and outright fraud
FACT: Our allies are pulling more and more of their troops out of Iraq leaving us to fight this war alone
FACT: The failure of any political progress by the Iraqi legislature to meet any of the 18 benchmarks (which was the given reason for the Surge) leaves the US holding the bag again
LOGICAL CONCLUSION: Anyone who supports this war and ignores the facts presented here must hate our troops immensely to treat their lives so casually yet are, as a class of people, unwilling to put their own lives on the line to fight. Their vaunted leadership has an ample history of such behavior that you seem to support 100%. Yeah. That's leadership for ya. It's so easy to start something that you don't have to actually involve yourself in and can walk away from when your term is up with no consequences except to be known as the Worst. President. Ever.
qwerty
12-10-2007, 05:33 PM
Similar to the way the cut & run crowd has invested hook-line-and-sinker to America's failure.
People who have been against the war in Iraq from the beginning, have been right from the beginning...
Yup! Do nothing about 911. That's leadership alright
FIRST, RON PAUL VOTED TO GO AFTER OBL, so get your fucking facts straight and then come back and talk kid...
WTF has IRAQ war to do with 911 ?
I want them home too, but as victors, not as losers.
BTW - Link please, for the poll. You can't throw out a poll, without the context of the question asked.
Can you use GOOGLE ? Or is it new to you ?
WASHINGTON — Opposition to the Iraq war has reached a record high, a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll finds, a development likely to complicate President Bush's efforts to hold together Republican support as the Senate begins debate this week on Pentagon priorities.
Bush's approval rating has reached a new low: 29%.
In the survey, taken Friday through Sunday, one in five Americans say the increase in U.S. forces in Iraq since January has made the situation there better. Half say it hasn't made a difference.
More than seven in 10 favor removing nearly all U.S. troops from Iraq by April.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-07-09-bush-poll_N.htm
You call your soldiers as loosers if they come home now ? :sick:
You really make me feel sick, it would be no suprise to me if you have not been even in army yourself...It´s so easy to play a hero from your own sofa...Keyboard commando.
Beats being a pacifist shill for the terrorists, who wouldn't hesitate to kill you and your family. The Nazi's had a term for people like that, "useful idiots". I'm sure Ahmedinijad would be proud of Ron.
LOL, omg you´re simple...
You have DOZENS of illegals WALKING TO USA every day ?
Where are your troops if you get attacked ?
That´s YOUR national security, not mine and not Ron Paul´s. We would like to have MUCH stronger security.
Hey, keyboard commando before you start saying ANYTHING about Ron Paul, remeber that he was in Vietnam...
I knew that Neo-cons are simple, but i didn´t know that you are that simple...
This video is for you, take a look at yourself,
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vSk4SUpWVuY
ttriber
12-15-2007, 10:33 PM
I can't stand Ron Paul either, He wants to get rid of most Federal Organizations like the CIA,FBI. When I hear this it makes me want to puke because how can we defend ourselves without intelligence? Do we just go to war without knowing what were facing or do we keep these organizations and actually trie to cooperate with each other like Bush has done right now. Ron Paul's philosophy is to get us out of the world stage and put us as an isolationist country in which won't work because we will just shut ourselves from trade and other economic resources we need in order to survive. Ron Paul supporters let me remind you we don't live in the 1800's.
We have people who hate our guts and we must defeat them.
qwerty
12-17-2007, 04:09 PM
I can't stand Ron Paul either, He wants to get rid of most Federal Organizations like the CIA,FBI. When I hear this it makes me want to puke because how can we defend ourselves without intelligence? Do we just go to war without knowing what were facing or do we keep these organizations and actually trie to cooperate with each other like Bush has done right now. Ron Paul's philosophy is to get us out of the world stage and put us as an isolationist country in which won't work because we will just shut ourselves from trade and other economic resources we need in order to survive. Ron Paul supporters let me remind you we don't live in the 1800's.
We have people who hate our guts and we must defeat them.
Your talking bullshit here...
How well you were protected from 911 ?
Ron Paul doesn´t want to be a isolationist...
Yes, you bet USa didn´t have this many enemies at 1800, you shoudl think why...
Get your facts straight first then come to talk again, i can provide you material if you want to read...
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