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preservanation
11-29-2007, 10:33 AM
http://www.townhall.com/blog/g/d91f3cba-6a87-4686-92ce-70a16edc311b
Hillary plants question in Republican debate
Posted by: Jonathan Garthwaite at 10:41 PM

It turns out that Keith Kerr, retired Colonel., U.S. Army; retired Brigadier General, California National Reserve, who submitted a YouTube question about gays in the military, is actually a member of Hillary Clinton's Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transexual Americans For Hillary Steering Committee. He's also part of a film production crew trying overturn the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy. And CNN knew Nothing about it.
Riiiight....

YouTube is on Google, if one googles Kieth Kerr one gets that he works for Hillary. CNN even flew this guy to the debate.
To believe that CNN couldn't or didn't do that simple thing stretches all credulity.

That debate format sucked ass.
I thought I was watching the Emmies.
Cooper was horrible!

Those questions were all designed to make the Republicans look bad.
What a joke.[hr]I prob posted this in the wrong forum...sorry.
I tried to move it but can't.

Wndrtch
11-29-2007, 02:44 PM
http://www.townhall.com/blog/g/d91f3cba-6a87-4686-92ce-70a16edc311b
Hillary plants question in Republican debate
Posted by: Jonathan Garthwaite at 10:41 PM

It turns out that Keith Kerr, retired Colonel., U.S. Army; retired Brigadier General, California National Reserve, who submitted a YouTube question about gays in the military, is actually a member of Hillary Clinton's Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transexual Americans For Hillary Steering Committee. He's also part of a film production crew trying overturn the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy. And CNN knew Nothing about it.
Riiiight....

YouTube is on Google, if one googles Kieth Kerr one gets that he works for Hillary. CNN even flew this guy to the debate.
To believe that CNN couldn't or didn't do that simple thing stretches all credulity.

That debate format sucked ass.
I thought I was watching the Emmies.
Cooper was horrible!

Those questions were all designed to make the Republicans look bad.
What a joke.[hr]I prob posted this in the wrong forum...sorry.
I tried to move it but can't.


I don't have a problem with our side being asked tough questions, I just want the media to do the same for the Dems. Presidential candidates SHOULD be challenged.

Regarding the Hillary plant...

Who says, she didn't believe the Zogby online poll. I'll guarantee this bit of espionage was in direct response to her loosing against all Republicans. I'm just glad someone was paying attention, and identified the stink in the room.

ECW
11-29-2007, 03:06 PM
And Grover Norquist, Republican gadfly, what was he? He's got ample opportunity to interact with candidates with his Club For Growth crap and he gets time on CNN and I don't hear you pissing about him.

If the questions from YouTube viewers make the GOP look bad, think of what they will look like once the real reporters start landing on them and the investigative journalists expose their nasty little secrets for all the world to see. It's not hard to make a republican look bad now days. All you have to do is empty out their closet and tell the truth about it. Game over.

ViolaLee
11-29-2007, 03:41 PM
So since I'm an Obama supporter, if I had asked a youtube question, that would mean Obama planted me?

LOL!

You Hillary bashers really do stretch to try to pin shit on her.

AlonzoMourning23
11-29-2007, 05:05 PM
So Hillary is directing the actions of every single member of one of her groups?

Deadshot
11-29-2007, 05:10 PM
I don't have a problem with our side being asked tough questions, I just want the media to do the same for the Dems. Presidential candidates SHOULD be challenged.



Wnd, I agree with this all the way, as for the other comment that's just GOP cryin.

Do you guys on the Right begin to see the problem here? YouTube debates are debates controlled by the YOUTH of the nation. Right now that youth is not connecting with the GOP. Preserv, you want to call off all the other YouTube type debates and have the GOP candidates pulled what they pulled with the Blacks and not show up at their debate? GREAT!!!!

The GOP has already pissed all over the minority vote, both black and brown, why not shit all over the youth vote too!

Wndrtch
11-29-2007, 05:31 PM
And Grover Norquist, Republican gadfly, what was he? He's got ample opportunity to interact with candidates with his Club For Growth crap and he gets time on CNN and I don't hear you pissing about him.

Maybe that's because it was a Republican Primary debate, where Republicans want to hear ideas from Republicans candidates and Grover is a Republican activist representing a popular Republican viewpoint? I don't know, call me silly I guess.



The time to hear from the loony-left, would be during a debate, AFTER the Primaries.

If the questions from YouTube viewers make the GOP look bad, think of what they will look like once the real reporters start landing on them and the investigative journalists expose their nasty little secrets for all the world to see. It's not hard to make a republican look bad now days. All you have to do is empty out their closet and tell the truth about it. Game over.
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At least our candidates answered those stupid, irrelevant questions, unlike the Dems who do a "Texas-two-step" to avoid answering anything. Or like Hillary, takes all positions of every issue, so she can respond to any poll. This "plant" happened, to counter the Zogby poll, showing Hillary doing poorly against all the Republican candidates. She needed to hit them someway, without getting her claws dirty.[hr]Wnd, I agree with this all the way, as for the other comment that's just GOP cryin.

Actually, the other comment was just my opinion. It seemed rather interesting, that just a few days ago we read about the Hill-camp trying to suppress a bad poll from Zogby, that shows Hillary doing badly against Republicans, then we find a Hillary water-carrier not only asking a loaded question, but was flown in by CNN and asked if he felt his question was answered effectively!

But no, there was no shenanigans here.

Do you guys on the Right begin to see the problem here? YouTube debates are debates controlled by the YOUTH of the nation.

Which might explain why many of the questions were so ignorant, denigrating, and irrelevant in the context of today's real problems and issues.

Right now that youth is not connecting with the GOP. Preserv, you want to call off all the other YouTube type debates and have the GOP candidates pulled what they pulled with the Blacks and not show up at their debate? GREAT!!!!

When was the last time that "da yutes" of America voted for adults-uh, I mean Republicans? It takes time, experience, and character to become a Conservative. It only takes a joint to be a Liberal.

The GOP has already pissed all over the minority vote, both black and brown, why not shit all over the youth vote too!

Like the left has spent soooo much energy, reaching out to Christians, the military, gun owners, and pro-lifers.

Please.

lily
11-29-2007, 09:05 PM
I prob posted this in the wrong forum...sorry.
I tried to move it but can't.


Right place. This is where I was going to post it, before you beat me to it.

Hillary planting a questioner in her audience asking softball questions is one thing......planting one at the Republican debate is another. I suppose you could blame CNN if you want to.......but the blame IMO lands on her shoulders and her true colors are really starting to show.

Although I think that a question about gays in the military is a legitamite question, I didn't watch the debates and the article I read said Kerr went on for 2 minutes..........sorry that's not a question, that's speech.

ViolaLee
11-29-2007, 09:20 PM
So Hillary is directing the actions of every single member of one of her groups?


She has awesome powers doesn't she?


Hillary planting a questioner in her audience asking softball questions is one thing......planting one at the Republican debate is another. I suppose you could blame CNN if you want to.......but the blame IMO lands on her shoulders and her true colors are really starting to show.

Is there any proof Hillary had anything to do with the gay General asking a question about gays in the military at this debate?

Although I think that a question about gays in the military is a legitamite question, I didn't watch the debates and the article I read said Kerr went on for 2 minutes..........sorry that's not a question, that's speech.
He's a little old man. It takes time for them to spit out the sentences...

lily
11-30-2007, 01:57 AM
Is there any proof Hillary had anything to do with the gay General asking a question about gays in the military at this debate?

Is there any proof she didn't? On the contrary......we already have proof of her planting a questioner in her audience. Sorry, Viola.....I've had it up to here with dirty tricks and liars. I want someone honest for a change. If I don't find it.......this will be the first time since the late '70s that I'm not going to vote.

Elrathin
11-30-2007, 02:26 AM
Those questions were all designed to make the Republicans look bad.


Nope the Republicans looked bad all on their own lol.

preservanation
11-30-2007, 11:51 AM
Wndrch:
At least our candidates answered those stupid, irrelevant questions, unlike the Dems who do a "Texas-two-step" to avoid answering anything. Or like Hillary, takes all positions of every issue, so she can respond to any poll. This "plant" happened, to counter the Zogby poll, showing Hillary doing poorly against all the Republican candidates. She needed to hit them someway, without getting her claws dirty.Or unlike the Dems who refuse to appear on FNC.
Hillary will do what Hillary does, and that is lie, sneak, plant questions and basically act like how the libs accused Nixon of acting, my problem is with CNN. They are partisan and now obviously doing the bidding of Clinton Inc.
Those Dems who do not support Hillary should be very conserned about this as well.

I would like to see Dems in a debate asked questions born from conservative mind-set like the Republicans were asked all these questions from a liberal one.
Again, it was a joke and resembled a Hollywood awards show.
Right after that opening youtube song, if one would have walked of the stage they would be leading the polls right now. This isn't a JOKE, we are electing the President of the United States of America.

It's not about the Confederate flag, who believes the Bible verbatim, gays in the military (when has that become a top election issue, on either sides? BTW, don't-ask-don't-tell was a Clinton policy), farm subsidies, what would Jesus say. Where were the questions on TAXES? None, because that is a loser issue for the Dems that's why.

Narrow focused cliches. CNN trying to make the Republicans out as racist bigot, sexist homophobes.

This was a JOKE, and so is CNN
Way too many questions have connections to the Dems and are Dem operatives, and CNN claims "well, we just didn't know". HOGWASH.[hr]http://michellemalkin.com/
Oh, CNN did make careful note that Grover Norquist (who asked about his anti-tax pledge) is a Republican activist with Americans for Tax Reform. But somehow the network’s layers and layers of fact-checkers missed several easily identified Democratic activists posing as ordinary, undecided citizens.

The tallest plant was a retired gay vet, one “Brig. Gen. Keith Kerr,” who questioned - or rather, lectured - the candidates on video and in person about the “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy that bans open gays from the military.

Funny. “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” was exactly the policy CNN adopted in not telling viewers that Kerr is a member of Lesbian-Gay-Bisexual- Transgender Americans for Hillary.

Sen. Clinton’s campaign Web site features a press release announcing Kerr and other members of the committee in June. And a basic Web search turns up Kerr’s past support as a member of a veterans’ steering committee for the John Kerry for President campaign - and his prior appearance on CNN in December ‘03.

CNN’s moderator, Anderson Cooper, singled out Kerr (who’d been flown in for the event) in the vast audience, giving him a chance for his own filibustering moment. Marvel at it: Not one CNN journalist uncovered the connection or thought it pertinent to disclose that Kerr’s heart belonged to Hillary.

When righty commentator Bill Bennett pointed out the facts to Cooper after the debate, a red-faced Cooper feebly blubbered: “That was something certainly unknown to us, and had we known that, would have been disclosed by us. It turns out we have just looked at it.”

Cluelessness doesn’t absolve CNN of journalistic malpractice. Neither does editing out Kerr’s question (as the network did on rebroadcast, to camouflage the potted plant).

The story is far from over: Cooper and CNN still owe their audience - and the GOP candidates - a bouquet of mea culpas for due diligence and disclosure lapses. Beyond Kerr, Internet sleuths have uncovered several other Democratic activists lurking in the YouTube garden:

* A young woman named “Journey” questioned the candidates on abortion. On her blog (easily accessed from her YouTube channel), she declares herself a John Edwards supporter. Post debate, she immediately posted a video wearing . . . her John Edwards ‘08 T-shirt.

* David Cercone of Florida asked a question seemingly on behalf of the Log Cabin Republicans. He had declared his support for Obama on an Obama ‘08 campaign blog back in July.

* Concerned mother LeeAnn Anderson asked about lead in toys with her two children in her lap. She is actually a staffer and prominent Pittsburgh union activist for the United Steelworkers - which has endorsed Edwards.

On other questioners, elementary Google searches show that:

* Ted Faturos, who asked about ethanol subsidies, had served as an intern for Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.).

* Adam Florzak, who asked about Social Security, quit his job as a welder and is working with Sen. Dick Durbin’s (D-Ill.) staff on the issue.

* Mark Strauss, who urged Ron Paul to run as an independent, had publicly supported Gov. Bill Richardson in July.
CNN has done a disservice to our political system.
CNN are the biased ones, not the candidates.

Archasgame5
12-01-2007, 07:08 PM
We've known for some time that Hillary plants questions in her own public forums, but to do so at the Republican debate would be low, even for her.

ViolaLee
12-02-2007, 04:37 AM
How about some proof that Hillary planted that little old man gay general? Or will you just continue to feed us that lie?

As for Michelle Malkin's article *puke* Does she think Democrats aren't allowed to ask Republicans questions in the debate?

Where was the rule written that only registered Republicans can ask youtube questions?

The next President will be the President for all of us.

Why are you Republicans so afraid of Democratic questions? You don't see us whining about Republicans asking youtube questions of the Dems.

You guys are really acting like a bunch of weenies!

Archasgame5
12-02-2007, 05:02 AM
No one should be complaining about Democrats asking Republicans questions, and vice versa, and I don't think anyone is.

The speculation is that Hillary planted questions, which is admittedly a problem.

ViolaLee
12-02-2007, 05:22 AM
Michelle Malkin apparently is, and through her, preserva.

I asked for proof several times. There's no reason to believe Hillary had anything to do with it. It's just GOP lies you're being fed.

Stick to the facts. We'll all be better off.

Archasgame5
12-02-2007, 03:45 PM
It's speculation. Healthy speculation, at that.

Rudy Guiliani is under scrutiny for past actions, if you've noticed.

In America, we try to keep our politicians honest. We do a horrible job of it.

Thank god for investigative reporting...

preservanation
12-03-2007, 02:30 PM
Michelle Malkin apparently is, and through her, preserva.

I asked for proof several times. There's no reason to believe Hillary had anything to do with it. It's just GOP lies you're being fed.

Stick to the facts. We'll all be better off.
The facts are that CNN did not do true diligence in vetting the questioners. Wolf himself said that the question would not have been allowed if they had known who this guy was. Whether you believe that CNN knew or not is one thing, but Wolf did admit that it was wrong.

I don't blame a campaign or a supporter for trying to influence the questions posed to an opposing party, welcome to the big leagues. It's the fact that a supposedly unbiased news organization aired these questions is what I find very telling.
Either CNN knew, or were incredibly sloppy, either way it speaks volumes about their professionalism, competency and exposes their political slant.

Elrathin
12-03-2007, 02:36 PM
The truly dishonest person here is the person that titled this thread. There is non proof that Hillary was responsible for this and the accusation that she did is dishonest and partisan.

preservanation
12-03-2007, 03:04 PM
The truly dishonest person here is the person that titled this thread. There is non proof that Hillary was responsible for this and the accusation that she did is dishonest and partisan.
I have a habit of using the title of the piece to title the threads I post....this was no exception.Hillary plants question in Republican debate
By: Jonathan Garthwaite http://www.townhall.com/blog/g/d91f3cba-...a16edc311b
I hope that you are not calling me dishonest. I trust that you were unaware of that Garthwaite titled his article, not me. I don't think you would purposely try to insult a fellow poster like that, El.

Elrathin
12-03-2007, 03:09 PM
The truly dishonest person here is the person that titled this thread. There is non proof that Hillary was responsible for this and the accusation that she did is dishonest and partisan.
I have a habit of using the title of the piece to title the threads I post....this was no exception.Hillary plants question in Republican debate
By: Jonathan Garthwaite http://www.townhall.com/blog/g/d91f3cba-...a16edc311b
I hope that you are not calling me dishonest. I trust that you were unaware of that Garthwaite titled his article, not me. I don't think you would purposely try to insult a fellow poster like that, El.


The link you gave does not exist.

EDIT: the one you just gave doesn't, the original on the front still does.

Alright so then I will retract my statement and say that the author of the article is nothing more than a partisan liar. There is no proof of what he is accusing Hillary of.

Now the real question, do you support the articles title?

preservanation
12-03-2007, 03:35 PM
That's better, now don't you feel good about yourself?
As for the title...I have no opinion. The author seems to think that this was the case and I respect his right to think that.

Is it possible? Yes, especially considering that this is a demonstrated pattern of behavior from her campaign.

Do I condemn her campaign for trying or succeeding in this? Not at all.

Is it irrefutable? Maybe not, but if you have read my post this has not been my focus.


My focus has been on CNN and their seemingly abetting the Dems in getting their questions out and trying to tag and impugn Repubs with the same old tired cliches. IE, a religious test, the Confederate flag (an historically Democrat symbol, btw). As you can read there were plenty of questions posed by admitted Dems when CNN billed their debate as "questions asked by Repubs, for Repubs". This was obviously a lie.

People see this unprofessionalism at CNN and I would dump Turner Broadcasting System if any of you have it in your financial portfolios.