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Lasher
11-21-2007, 07:50 PM
The New Federalist
September 21, 1998

What Was the Mossad Role in the Lewinsky Affair?
by Edward Spannaus

Sept. 16 (EIRNS)--According to a little-noticed passage in the Starr Report, during March 1997, President Clinton told Monica Lewinsky that he suspected a foreign embassy was tapping his telephone conversations.

Nothing more is said in the report about the incident, but according to information received by this news service, that reference could provide the key to the entire Lewinsky scandal and to the setting-up and entrapment of the President. Reportedly, the embassy involved was that of Israel, under the control of the right-wing Likud government of Benjamin Netanyahu.

First, the time-frame of the Lewinsky affair should be taken into account. It is bounded by two events: (1) the assassination of President Clinton's partner in the Middle East peace process, Israeli Prime Minister Yitzak Rabin, on Nov. 4, 1995, which opens the path for Netanyahu becoming Prime Minister in May 1996; and (2) Netanyahu's visit to Washington in mid-January 1998--just as the Lewinsky affair was breaking in the U.S. news media. On this visit, Netanyahu publicly insulted the President by meeting with Bill Clinton's worst enemies, televangelists Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson.

Netanyahu carried out this affront over the objections of both President Clinton and moderate Jewish leaders in the United States.

The question must be asked: Was the set-up of President Clinton part of the effort by the Likud fanatics in Israel, and their "Temple Mount" backers in London, to punish the President for his efforts to force through an implementation of the 1993 Oslo peace accords?

The Real Lewinsky Tapes British investigative journalist Kevin Dowling has released an article for publication to a variety of British and American news organizations, charging that the Israeli Mossad was bugging the Watergate apartment telephone of Monica Lewinsky, and was able to obtain material used to blackmail the Clinton administration into shutting down a probe of widespread Israeli espionage in Washington.

Dowling reports that well-placed sources in Tel Aviv say that full transcripts of more than 30 sexually explicit conversations between Clinton and Lewinsky are held by the Israeli foreign intelligence service, the Mossad.

The backdrop is as follows, Dowling reports, and it is backed up by published sources in the U.S., that the U.S. government was aware, from late 1995 on, that the Mossad was carrying out extensive espionage activity in the United States. When the Defense Investigative Service issued a warning to defense contractors about the Israeli spy program, the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith went into an all-out mobilization to denounce the DIS memo as "anti-Semitic." Of course, just one year earlier, the ADL had been the subject of a lengthy espionage probe by the FBI and the San Francisco Police; and the ADL had earlier been deeply implicated in the Jonathan Pollard spy affair.

In May of 1997, the Washington Post and other media reported that the U.S. National Security Agency had intercepted a phone conversation between a Mossad officer posted at the Israeli embassy in Washington, and Danny Yaton, the Mossad chief, in Tel Aviv, during January 1997. The Mossad agent was seeking clarification whether he should attempt to obtain a copy of private letter from then-Secretary of State Warren Christopher to Yassir Arafat, via a Mossad mole high-up in the Clinton administration codenamed "Mega." The Mossad boss told the agent that under no circumstances should "Mega" be approached, as he/she was the top Israeli penetration agent inside the Clinton inner circle. An extensive FBI counterintelligence probe to determine the identity of the high-level Israeli mole in the U.S. government was triggered by the NSA intercept.

Comparisons to the Pollard spy affair were naturally raised; the deeper issue is that many observers believe that Pollard's controller (sometimes referred to as "Mr.. X," or the "X Committee") is still burrowed deep in a high-level position in a U.S. government agency.

According to the Tel Aviv sources cited by Dowling, there was an emergency meeting of top Israeli intelligence officials, as soon as the NSA intercept was discovered; a Mossad electronic-bugging team of yalohim was dispatched to Washington, and one of the targets of their operation was the home telephone of Monica Lewinsky.

According to the Dowling sources, the Mossad obtained wiretap tapes of at least 30 X-rated conversations between the President and Lewinsky. These tapes, according to the sources, were hand-carried back to Tel Aviv, and were then used to blackmail the Clinton administration into calling off the search for "Mega"; the threat was that if the search for "Mega" were not shut down, the Israelis would begin leaking material from the tapes.

According to Michael Isikoff, the reporter who first started investigating the Lewinsky story, he first learned about a story involving the President and "an intern" in March-April of 1997.

The Dowling story is consistent with many leads assembled by this news service over the past several years, suggesting that the Israelis were operating against the Clinton Presidency in underhanded ways, as well as in an overt policy was, to sabotage the Middle East peace process.

It should not be overlooked that the appellate attorney for convicted spy Jonathan Pollard was Theodore Olson--Kenneth Starr's long-time colleague and close friend, and host of the "Get Clinton" salon. Olson was still Pollard's lawyer as late as 1993, when Olson was already launching the anti-Clinton "Arkansas Project" with the American Spectator magazine and Richard Mellon Scaife's money--out of which operation came the Whitewater investigation and the Paula Jones case.


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On 9/14/98, during a White House press conference, a reporter asked Mike McCurry , "Is it true that the White House is bugged by a foreign country?"

McCurry said he had no comment on that and moved on to other things.

It is known that Bill Clinton ordered the FBI to stop searching for a White House mole code-named "Mega".The prevailing story is that Clinton was being blackmailed by a recording of Bill having phone sex with Monica Lewinsky. It's now known that the Israeli owned companies providing billing and tapping sevices were well positioned to intercept any and all phone calls going into Monica's Watergate apartment, as well as all phone calls in and out of the secure White House communications system.


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Anti-Racism
11-22-2007, 04:57 AM
Sept. 16 (EIRNS)--According to a little-noticed passage in the Starr Report, during March 1997, President Clinton told Monica Lewinsky that he suspected a foreign embassy was tapping his telephone conversations.


Usual veiled accusations that because Lewinsky is Jewish, she invoked the Jewish state's secret service.

If they were that savvy, more power to them.

Lasher
11-22-2007, 04:03 PM
Sept. 16 (EIRNS)--According to a little-noticed passage in the Starr Report, during March 1997, President Clinton told Monica Lewinsky that he suspected a foreign embassy was tapping his telephone conversations.


Usual veiled accusations that because Lewinsky is Jewish, she invoked the Jewish state's secret service.

If they were that savvy, more power to them.


Thanks for showing everyone what you think of America, old sport.

Scorpion
11-22-2007, 04:12 PM
I doubt that your article is accurate but Monica was stupid, had a big mouth and she was blowing the leader of the free world.

Perfect target for an intelligence service.

December
11-22-2007, 07:41 PM
According to the Dowling sources, the Mossad obtained wiretap tapes of at least 30 X-rated conversations between the President and Lewinsky. These tapes, according to the sources, were hand-carried back to Tel Aviv, and were then used to blackmail the Clinton administration into calling off the search for "Mega"; the threat was that if the search for "Mega" were not shut down, the Israelis would begin leaking material from the tapes.

I did read about it before, but I don't see the reason why would Israel want to blackmail the Clinton administration?
He was and still IS big time Jew lover...

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crimzonsol
11-22-2007, 07:56 PM
I did read about it before, but I don't see the reason why would Israel want to blackmail the Clinton administration?

Because they always are prepared incase something goes wrong? I don't know, but this whole story doesn't add up, not that its wrong, but it is missing information in the least.

Scorpion
11-22-2007, 08:01 PM
I did read about it before, but I don't see the reason why would Israel want to blackmail the Clinton administration?

Because they always are prepared incase something goes wrong? I don't know, but this whole story doesn't add up, not that its wrong, but it is missing information in the least.


Exactly. Israel always protects its options.

crimzonsol
11-22-2007, 08:12 PM
Exactly. Israel always protects its options.

Something that has pros and cons, and the cons are slowly starting to be come more harmful unfortunately.

Scorpion
11-22-2007, 08:22 PM
Exactly. Israel always protects its options.

Something that has pros and cons, and the cons are slowly starting to be come more harmful unfortunately.


After all that the world has vested upon the Jews throughout history is it any wonder that Israel acts, and at times overreacts, to protect itself.

crimzonsol
11-22-2007, 08:54 PM
After all that the world has vested upon the Jews throughout history is it any wonder that Israel acts, and at times overreacts, to protect itself.

True, but that does not mean that we get a free ticket when we over react, we should be held responsible for our actions.

December
11-22-2007, 09:19 PM
Because they always are prepared incase something goes wrong?

Well, you don't have to explain THAT. Every agency of every country is ALWAYS looking for something that can compromise the leaders of other countries. There is nothing new about it...
But the only question is whether to use the data or not.
In this case the information WAS used.

The question is WHY?

I think the real story is this - Republicans wanted to sink Clinton simply for winning the election.

But how?

Sure the Republicans (or better to say Bush and Co.) wanted something big... And they got it.

Well, Bush Sr. asked his bodies from the CIA (where he used to be a boss) to dig some dirt on Clinton, and latter his CIA friends told him that Israelis have some REAL hot stuff... :D

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Lasher
11-23-2007, 12:03 AM
So we're supposed to look at Israel's planting agents in the White House for the purpose of obtaining incriminating evidence of illicit sexual matters because some other countries might also do it? First, I have heard of no other nation doing such things at all, let alone on the grand scale Israel does it.
Second, every time an Israeli Mossad agent is discovered being where he shouldn't be, stealing information for Israel, he or she is never prosecuted (except in the case of Jonathan Pollard), but is allowed to return to Israel for a slap on the wrist and a softer job.

crimzonsol
11-23-2007, 12:52 AM
First, I have heard of no other nation doing such things at all, let alone on the grand scale Israel does it.

Thats because they do not have the ability to plant agents in the White house. I am sure most countries would do it if they thought they could do it.

Second, every time an Israeli Mossad agent is discovered being where he shouldn't be, stealing information for Israel, he or she is never prosecuted (except in the case of Jonathan Pollard), but is allowed to return to Israel for a slap on the wrist and a softer job.

That is because Mossad is good at what it does, every other intelligent agency does the same thing.

Lasher
11-23-2007, 01:29 AM
First, I have heard of no other nation doing such things at all, let alone on the grand scale Israel does it.

Thats because they do not have the ability to plant agents in the White house. I am sure most countries would do it if they thought they could do it.

Why is it that Israel is able to do such things when others aren't? Could it be that there are Mossad agents in every rat-hole in Washington, especially the Department of State and the Pentagon?
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Second, every time an Israeli Mossad agent is discovered being where he shouldn't be, stealing information for Israel, he or she is never prosecuted (except in the case of Jonathan Pollard), but is allowed to return to Israel for a slap on the wrist and a softer job.

That is because Mossad is good at what it does, every other intelligent agency does the same thing.

Israel probably has 100 Mossad spies in America for every 1 from all other nations. Israel has been spying on us since it's inception, and selling our top secrets to our communist enemies the whole time. Just after 9-11, 200 Israeli spies were rounded up and sent back to Israel without being prosecuted or even charged with espionage. That is the power Israel's Lobby has over the U.S. government. Read the book "By Way Of Deception" by Victor Ostrovsky, an ex-Mossad agent, for a good look inside that evil and dangerous organization whose tentacles reach even into our C.I.A. The American people are being lulled into a false sense of security by people whose apologias for Israel are their only contribution toward a dialogue on the Middle East.

crimzonsol
11-23-2007, 06:17 AM
Israel probably has 100 Mossad spies in America for every 1 from all other nations.

I doubt it, it probably has more than most countries, but not that many. Maybe 2 for every other one in America. Can you blame them? We were fianacing Black September, we payed Black September to not attack our embassies with no other strings atached. We are not the most trustworthy allies in the world, we have a tendency to leave out allies out to dry if the price is right. Plus maybe half of them are spying on the government.

Israel has been spying on us since it's inception, and selling our top secrets to our communist enemies the whole time.

Not that they need our secrets, we have nothing any more. The "younger"(Ironic yes, but true) generation is taking over, India & China are becoming the new world powers.

Just after 9-11, 200 Israeli spies were rounded up and sent back to Israel without being prosecuted or even charged with espionage. That is the power Israel's Lobby has over the U.S. government.

That would be intresting to hear about, could you either post the info or tell me where I might find it?

Read the book "By Way Of Deception" by Victor Ostrovsky, an ex-Mossad agent, for a good look inside that evil and dangerous organization whose tentacles reach even into our C.I.A. The American people are being lulled into a false sense of security by people whose apologias for Israel are their only contribution toward a dialogue on the Middle East.

I was reading it, but then I put it down somewhere in my room, and well me being a teenager...

December
11-23-2007, 02:38 PM
I work for Mossad, I'll find you

And I work for Vatican, Kremlin and Chinese mafia.

:peace: :peace: :peace:

Lasher
11-23-2007, 03:01 PM
Israel probably has 100 Mossad spies in America for every 1 from all other nations.

I doubt it, it probably has more than most countries, but not that many. Maybe 2 for every other one in America. Can you blame them? We were fianacing Black September, we payed Black September to not attack our embassies with no other strings atached. We are not the most trustworthy allies in the world, we have a tendency to leave out allies out to dry if the price is right. Plus maybe half of them are spying on the government.

Why should a tiny nation the size of the state of New Jersey be sending so many spies so often to it's virtually only ally in the world? A nation that depends on America for its existence continues to steal our vital secrets and sell them for profit to our enemies, to what purpose? As the saying goes, with friends like that, we don't need any more enemies!
How were we financing Black September? Please advise where you heard they were "paid" (correct spelling) by us to not bomb our embassies, that will be interesting to learn.
You don't like America very much do you? Your statement that we tend to leave our "allies" out to dry if the price is right is pure foolishness, in light of the amount of money we send to the rest of the world as "aid," and especially Israel, who gets more "aid" than any other nation in the world, even though it is one of the smallest nations.
It appears your teachers have thoroughly turned you into an anti-American, young man. You need to investigate other sources of information and let those egg-head professors choke up when you put some of the hard questions to them that they dread being asked about their philosophies.
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Israel has been spying on us since it's inception, and selling our top secrets to our communist enemies the whole time.

Not that they need our secrets, we have nothing any more.
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That sounds as though it came straight from the socialist-liberal playbook on how to destroy America by planting the idea in the minds of youth that America is past her prime and not the actual superpower she is.
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The "younger"(Ironic yes, but true) generation is taking over, India & China are becoming the new world powers.
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America has always welcomed and thrived on competition, and any from those nations will also be welcomed and be incentive to continue our ways, which put us in the fore of the world in the first place
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Just after 9-11, 200 Israeli spies were rounded up and sent back to Israel without being prosecuted or even charged with espionage. That is the power Israel's Lobby has over the U.S. government.

That would be intresting to hear about, could you either post the info or tell me where I might find it?
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I will certainly endeavor to go back through my files and find that information for you, but as you might expect, it won't be immediately, since I have other obligations in the immediate future, but I will get around to it in time. You could help yourself by Googling the subject yourself and doing some research on your own.
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Read the book "By Way Of Deception" by Victor Ostrovsky, an ex-Mossad agent, for a good look inside that evil and dangerous organization whose tentacles reach even into our C.I.A. The American people are being lulled into a false sense of security by people whose apologias for Israel are their only contribution toward a dialogue on the Middle East.


I was reading it, but then I put it down somewhere in my room, and well me being a teenager...

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You would do well to find it and finish it.

Anti-Racism
11-23-2007, 03:34 PM
http://www.ussliberty.org/

People have been saying this for years, but really, they're envious of Israel's success and America's freedom.

Lasher
11-23-2007, 09:06 PM
People have been saying WHAT?

Scorpion
11-24-2007, 12:52 AM
Well, this thread has certainly turned into a meeting of the minds of our forums foremeost intellectuals.

Lasher
11-24-2007, 07:55 PM
Exactly. Israel always protects its options.

Something that has pros and cons, and the cons are slowly starting to be come more harmful unfortunately.


After all that the world has vested upon the Jews throughout history is it any wonder that Israel acts, and at times overreacts, to protect itself.


Did the Jews do nothing at all to bring this enmity of the world down on themselves? Are they guilty of nothing except just being Jews, or have they done some wee little things to bring this universal hatred down on themselves? Is the whole world evil, or could the Jews have some faults of their own?[hr]
http://www.ussliberty.org/

People have been saying this for years, but really, they're envious of Israel's success and America's freedom.


Just like 9-11 was caused by Iraq's envy of our freedom and success?

Labrocca
11-24-2007, 09:00 PM
Not a current event...post in the correct topic category.

preservanation
11-24-2007, 10:33 PM
Oh, Boy,
Maybe they're tapping something else?
and I'll just leave the bugs out of it.

crimzonsol
11-25-2007, 12:10 AM
Did the Jews do nothing at all to bring this enmity of the world down on themselves?

Not recently

Are they guilty of nothing except just being Jews, or have they done some wee little things to bring this universal hatred down on themselves?

Most likely someone manipulated people into believe the Jews are evil based on misrepresented facts and lies. Probably by convincing people that the unsavory actions of a few Jews were normal actions taken by Jews.

Is the whole world evil, or could the Jews have some faults of their own?

Well I'm a Jew and since we are talking about generalizations based on a few people I'd have to say I am leaning towards the entire world being evil.

Just like 9-11 was caused by Iraq's envy of our freedom and success?

No, it happened because people want power. Power is the only thing that causes violence.