For or Against the War and Why?

[Nitrus]

Are you for or against the Irag war and why?

Personally I am in-between, I think that Saddam Hussein needed to be dealt with, I think our countries handled it in the wrong way.

What do you think?

[Deacon]

Personally I am for it, because I feel if im not I'm turnung my back against the solider's , and not many people think about it, but most iraqis are just like us, in the sense that they are trying to put bread on the table and try to survive each day. Only that small majority of Iraqis are terrorists and those are who we are fighting, but I say once Bin Laden is found we pull outta there.

IMO

[Nitrus]

But Bin Laden is supposedly in Afghanistan. What is it our armies are trying to do, keep the peace?

[Deacon]

In a wasy yes, but they are also their to train the iraq police and army so once the we leave there will be an anti-terroritst force present

[F34R]

Are you for or against the Irag war and why?

Personally I am in-between, I think that Saddam Hussein needed to be dealt with, I think our countries handled it in the wrong way.

What do you think?


If they handled it the wrong way, what would you have done differently ?
I support our troops, period. It doesnt matter what situation they are in, or whether I agree with why they are there. They are doing their job. Bless them all.

[Deacon]

F34R I agree with you 110%, whatever war they are in I support'em , If I was alive during 70's were hippies were against soldier actions, I'd give those potheads a left and a right, but yeah once most the terrorists are gone or supressed we should slowly phase out our troops.

[FucangLong]

I was orignally against the war, but we are in it too far now. If we pulled out this very minute, Iraq would most likely pull into a civil war, and we would be looked down upon by the whole world. My guess is we will have American soldiers in Iraq teritory for the next 50 years atleast.

[em3(sw)]

F34R I agree with you 110%, whatever war they are in I support'em , If I was alive during 70's were hippies were against soldier actions, I'd give those potheads a left and a right, but yeah once most the terrorists are gone or supressed we should slowly phase out our troops.


no you never phase out your troops are you even in the military! sounds like a no to me! yes i am italianrelic from pspforums and yes i was in the navy no you dont phase out your troops again my military knowledge is great in these types of matters, thats why the navy sends battle groups with at least 20 ships from east coast and west coast on sixth month cruises full of weapons of all types and marines and warcrafts to keep them at bay and always let them know we are there and ready to protect our troops or our country at any moments cost, and on the subject i dont agree on this war but; to protect our country from the severity of this bullshit attacks is a must!

em3(sw)

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electricians mate third class petty officer (surface warfare) qualified

[Deacon]

Oh i get what yor name means, and I don't mean to phase out all the troops I meant to take some soldiers out but have a small miltary presence

[F34R]

and on the subject i dont agree on this war but; to protect our country from the severity of this bullshit attacks is a must!


You are contradicting yourself. First, you dont agree on the war, but you agree it's a must ? What don't you agree with ?

[Nitrus]

All very good points. In response to what you said F34R, I don't know what I would have done differently, I am not a military person, but I just can't help feeling that they could have handled it better.

[Jim]

I'm against the war. It is a huge waste of time and money.

There is no way that we'll be able to completely rid of the people who hate us, unless we kill off anyone who isn't us. That is the only solution I can see.

[sonyking]

i personally am with the war.Even though i like the war idea it keeps the hussain's minians under control and fear of attacking on us again like they did the first time and also to catch the terrorists that are there as well but the way that GWB have been fighting the war is not a good idea.I dont think he knows anything about wars.

[tbl]

Well I think it was good to get rid of saddam hussein, even though that probably wasn't the motives for the war.

[smub]

i am strongly against the war because how would you feel if somebody came into your house and start telling you don't do this or do that.

Why should we interfere with those people. Who do we think we are ??

What was the reason for our independence and Monroe doctrine. It was to stop World's police Britain to stop controlling all the other nations, but aren't we violating all those terms now and doing the same what Britains was doing Hundred years ago. At that point we used to call them evil monsters and aren't we acting like them now ??

[Extreme89]

I am completely against, killing people is not ok imho

[Darkneoboi]

I am personally for the war because of Bin Laden. He attacked our country so we should attack his.

[unknownz]

Short and simple answer i am against war unless it is for self defense or in case where it is absolutely necessary and there is no solution apart from going to war.

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These are opinions and everyone has a right to disagree with them.

[bobbylien]

None of you seem to know anything about politics, i'm talking about those of you on both sides. Do you who are for the war honestly think that the terrorists will stop when we get bin laden? None of you understand any of these issues you are commenting on. I'm just waiting for someone who is willing to write more than a 30 word reply to a debate topic.

Why is there like 4 topics on the war in iraq anyways?

[Labrocca]

I am for the war against terror. See Iraq as the current front for this war. We are not at war WITH Iraq...we are at war with TERRORISM which is current inside Iraq.


i am strongly against the war because how would you feel if somebody came into your house and start telling you don't do this or do that.


That's a silly arguement. Let's say you had a sister and her husband was beating the crap out of her everyday...would you interfere or allow it to happen? The Iraq people deserve freedom from terror just as much as you or I. I wish we had more world support as well but let's reflect for a moment. Our most vocal critics were FRANCE...whom now have immense problems inside their own country due to mismanagement. The French government is a socialist nightmare and even their own people are not free. While I don't believe ANY government is perfect...the USA happens to be one of the strongest for freedom, civil rights, and economics. Why listen to anyone who can't even run their own country well?

[RageD]

I just keep repeating myself, so I'm going to keep it short. If you want to see my lengthy explanations take a look at some of my other posts. But, I am for this war.. We have to finish the job we went in there for.

-RageD

[mis_chiff]

Whether a stand is needed, is obvious, unfortunately along with war comes death and destruction. And sadly, it is the families that will suffer, for those that loose a loved one...this war will never be over!

[demo_news]

i'm in between, but many people i met say "George Bush doesn't really care because he's not out there in Iraq"

[Old Corps Gunny]

Good reply, Labrocca. You must understand that France, and Germany, had multi-billion dollar contracts with Saddam Hussein, and if he was ousted those contracts were worthless. That's the major reason those two countries were against Saddam being removed from power. Secondly, the US is not the only country with troops in Iraq, we are just the only super-power with troops in Iraq. At this point in time, before the Iraqi people have some form of functioning government and the ability to maintain stability in their country, it would be criminal for us to pull our troops out. After all, even if Saddam was a tyrant, there was some semblance of infrastructure in that country. Whether we like it or not, we are obligated to remain until that infrastructure is restored.

Who knows where Osama bin Laden is? Besides, he is only a figurehead. He doesn't plan operations, he never did. He provided funding for various terrorist groups and orated about the need to eliminate Western society through violence. Is bin Laden alive? Who knows. Will he ever be captured or killed? Again, who knows, and I doubt that it would make any difference other than create another "jihadist" martyr.

The major terrorist threat facing the Western world are Islamic fundamentalists who are variously called "jihadists",or "takfiris" within the Muslim community. They consider the other branches of Islam (Sunni and Shi'ia) to be heretics and to be killed in order to cleanse Islam. They also believe that all non-Muslims must either be converted to their form of Islam or, if they refuse to be converted, killed. The jihadists reject anything modern if it contravenes their idea of Islamic tradition, mostly because modern science, technology and culture are by-products of Western civilization. Even though the jihadists reject anything associated with the West, they do not hesitate to use modern tools (cell phones, Internet, video cameras, etc.) if it furthers their cause.

Terrorist groups are world wide, they are "true believers" in their cause and taking out one person is not going to stop their war against all others who do not believe as they do; as a result, this is going to be a very long struggle. By the way, to show extremist some of these groups are, the Takfir w'al Hijra once tried to assassinate Osama bin Laden because they thought he was heretical.

This is the enemy we face. Knowing that, only you can answer your question if war against them is necessary. As for myself, they declared war against the West in general, and the US (and Israel) in particular, and have captured and killed American citizens abroad and in this country. If any entity wants to declare war on this country, then I believe we should use whatever force we have at our disposal to eradicate the threat.

[gingeman]

I would like to say that in my honest opinion the US government is amongst the largest terrorist organisations on the planet. I am sure many US citizens feel the war is a worthy cause. I do not. The threat from terrorism is minimal. The goverment uses fear to control and manipulate the population. 9/11 was no coincidence and I doubt G.W. ever shed a tear, I think US citizens have far heavier media censorship than they realise.
Money and oil. Thats why people died.
The Bin laden family is/was a respected arab family known personally to the Bush family prior to 9/11. If the American people were better informed they would be disgusted at what their country is responsible for.

[justanotherstayathomead]

What war, We are in a war?

[Cephus]

I was against the war to begin with, still am. Granted, Bush has dug us in so deep that there really is no solution and we really have to stick around in Iraq until we can bring our military people home safely, but we had no business being there to begin with. We're supposed to be out finding bin Laden, not out killing American soldiers for Bush's personal agenda.

But here we are, almost 5 years later and what have we done? We deposed two governments and made the whole Middle East hate us, we're sending untold trillions of dollars overseas and we've come no closer to actually finding bin Laden or stopping Al Quaeda. All of the time, money and American lives of the past 5 years have been utterly wasted, we haven't done a damn thing we set out to do. In fact, we're probably just making it worse.

Hope you're proud of yourself, George.

[George W Bush]

I am against the war, and was even before we went in.

The costs are mounting, even Bush admitted mistakes were made.

So, i'm not sure there is much more to say besides, "Whoops! We goofed!"

Our apology should be in the form of paying for the Iraqi people to get their government back.

This is the unfortunate reality to such mistakes.

[PittsburghAfterDark]

Our apology should be in the form of paying for the Iraqi people to get their government back.

I don't believe my eyes.

Bring back Saddam?

Yeah, okay. Let's see if the Iraqi's don't kill him first. Oh, we already killed his sons, what do you recommend we do in that instance? Clone them?

[Churchel]

Saddam was a mafistic tyrant. His way to keep the fundamentalists down was to kill them, their families, and burn their houses down. It seems he was more effective at that for the past 30 years than we have been for the past three.

Winston Churchill referred to the fertle crescent occupation as "paying for the privellage to sit on a volcano"

I think that the current administration thought everyone is as dumb and gullible as the 27 percent who blindly feed on whatever they say.

I was for the war, and a republican, for the first month of fighting. I do not like being lied to.

[Cephus]

Bring back Saddam?

Yeah, okay. Let's see if the Iraqi's don't kill him first. Oh, we already killed his sons, what do you recommend we do in that instance? Clone them?


Nobody is suggesting putting Saddam back in power, but I think Iraq might just like to form their own system of government without being told by the United States what to do. All we've done is take away one dictator and imposed another.