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December
11-05-2007, 05:02 PM
Well, let's see....

CIA and FBI Plan to Assassinate Hugo Chávez

by Kurt Nimmo


This empire, unlike any other in the history of the world, has been built primarily through economic manipulation. “How do we know that the CIA was behind the coup that overthrew Hugo Chávez?” asked historian William Blum in 2002. “Same way we know that the sun will rise tomorrow morning. That’s what it’s always done and there’s no reason to think that tomorrow morning will be any different.”

Now we have a bit more evidence the CIA and the FBI connived with reactionary elements to not only briefly overthrow Chávez, abolish the constitution and the National Assembly, but later assassinate the Venezuelan State Prosecutor, Danilo Anderson. He was killed by a car bomb in Caracas on November 18, 2004, while investigating those who were behind the coup. Giovani Jose Vasquez De Armas, a member of Colombia’s right wing paramilitary group called the United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia, claims he was in charge of logistics for the plot to kill Danilo Anderson. Vasquez De Armas told the Attorney General’s office that those planning the killing, “all discussed the plan with the help of the FBI and CIA.”

And the sun will rise tomorrow.

“According to the Attorney General, Vasquez De Armas said that during a meeting in Darien, Panama, on September 4 and 6, 2003, an FBI Officer called ‘Pesquera’ and a CIA agent called ‘Morrinson,’ attended a meeting along with two of the plot’s alleged organizers, Patricia Poleo and Salvador Romani, as well as two of those who actually did the killing, Rolando and Otoniel Guevera,” writes Alessandro Parma. “An official from the Attorney General’s office, speaking on behalf of Vasquez De Armas, said that in Panama the FBI and the plotting Venezuelans agreed, ‘to take out Chavez and the Government.’ He said, ‘the meeting’s final objective was to kill President Chavez and the Attorney General.’”

None of this is new or particularly revelatory. Steve Kangas writes:
"CIA operations follow the same recurring script. First, American business interests abroad are threatened by a popular or democratically elected leader. The people support their leader because he intends to conduct land reform, strengthen unions, redistribute wealth, nationalize foreign-owned industry, and regulate business to protect workers, consumers and the environment. So, on behalf of American business, and often with their help, the CIA mobilizes the opposition. First it identifies right-wing groups within the country (usually the military), and offers them a deal: “We’ll put you in power if you maintain a favorable business climate for us.” The Agency then hires, trains and works with them to overthrow the existing government (usually a democracy). It uses every trick in the book: propaganda, stuffed ballot boxes, purchased elections, extortion, blackmail, sexual intrigue, false stories about opponents in the local media, infiltration and disruption of opposing political parties, kidnapping, beating, torture, intimidation, economic sabotage, death squads and even assassination. These efforts culminate in a military coup, which installs a right-wing dictator. The CIA trains the dictator’s security apparatus to crack down on the traditional enemies of big business, using interrogation, torture and murder. The victims are said to be “communists,” but almost always they are just peasants, liberals, moderates, labor union leaders, political opponents and advocates of free speech and democracy. Widespread human rights abuses follow."

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http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=NIM20051120&articleId=1296

Most of the people of Venezuela SUPPORT Hugo Chávez.
http://www.superunicorn.com/erik/uploaded_images/hugo_chavez-724441.jpg


March in support of Hugo Chavez -

http://www.knowledgedrivenrevolution.com/Profiles/Venezuela/Multimedia/Chavez_March.jpg

So everyone who posts ANTI-Chavez messages supports Bush and his friends from OIL COMPANIES such as Halliburton.

AlanC
11-05-2007, 05:24 PM
Most of the people of Venezuela SUPPORT Hugo Chávez

I see that word "most" again. You really should look into expanding your vocabulary.

I really have to ask.........

December, you show your affiliation as being Conservative. I am frankly curious. How exactly do you see yourself as being a conservative and then continue to post such virulent support for an admitted and determined socialist?

December
11-05-2007, 07:03 PM
December, you show your affiliation as being Conservative. I am frankly curious.

You are frankly curious, AlanC, and I am frankly confused by your statement... :)

Yes, I have conservative beliefs but I am not a member of a Republican party.... I didn't say I am a Republican.

How exactly do you see yourself as being a conservative and then continue to post such virulent support for an admitted and determined socialist?


Don't try to criminalize the word socialism.

There is nothing wrong with Socialism.... Just take a look at Canada, Sweden or UK...
But don't get confused by the policies of the Soviets (Bolsheviks) with REAL Socialism. Alright? :)

Socialism it is when the government and wealth of the nation works for ALL people of a nation and not just for very few like Bush and his friends from Halliburton.

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http://www.democracyforums.com/showthread.php?tid=8982

Scorpion
11-05-2007, 08:10 PM
December:

As usual, your sources are a bunch of off beat conspiracy theorists and criminals who belong on Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell (except they're probably too far out for even him).

I'll bet that you think the X-Files was a documentary, don't you?

Carry on. I do enjoy the entertainment.

December
11-05-2007, 08:25 PM
December:

As usual, your sources are a bunch of off beat conspiracy theorists and criminals who belong on Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell (except they're probably too far out for even him).

You (and not just you) always try to switch the subject by pointing out to the source of information...

However, it is the FACT - the CIA did try to kill him. If you didn't know it then just google cia hugo chavez.

OK?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=cia+hugo+chavez+&btnG=Search

And by the way, www.globalresearch.ca is a good source of information, so try to label every site that you just don't like.

:)

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Berlin is Russian city
read more -
http://www.democracyforums.com/showthread.php?tid=8982

Scorpion
11-05-2007, 08:40 PM
December:

As usual, your sources are a bunch of off beat conspiracy theorists and criminals who belong on Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell (except they're probably too far out for even him).

You (and not just you) always try to switch the subject by pointing out to the source of information...

However, it is the FACT - the CIA did try to kill him. If you didn't know it then just google cia hugo chavez.

OK?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=cia+hugo+chavez+&btnG=Search

And by the way, www.globalresearch.ca is a good source of information, so try to label every site that you just don't like.

:)

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Berlin is Russian city
read more -
http://www.democracyforums.com/showthread.php?tid=8982


I'm sorry but questioning your sources is not changing the subject.

Googling CIA/Hugo Chavez results in a wealth of crackpot conspiracy nonsense. Stop trying to portray the CIA as some kind of globe trotting hit squad for the right.

I do agree that Global Research.ca is a terrific source of information, if you're a conspiracy buff.

AlanC
11-05-2007, 09:07 PM
December,

Thanks for confirming what I thought.

BoogyMan
11-05-2007, 09:20 PM
December:

As usual, your sources are a bunch of off beat conspiracy theorists and criminals who belong on Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell (except they're probably too far out for even him).

You (and not just you) always try to switch the subject by pointing out to the source of information...

However, it is the FACT - the CIA did try to kill him. If you didn't know it then just google cia hugo chavez.

OK?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=cia+hugo+chavez+&btnG=Search

And by the way, www.globalresearch.ca is a good source of information, so try to label every site that you just don't like.

:)

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Berlin is Russian city
read more -
http://www.democracyforums.com/showthread.php?tid=8982


December, you can google for "aliens crashed at Roswell NM" and get lots of responses as well, that is no kind of proof for your allegation.

I Like Beer
11-05-2007, 09:30 PM
Why did they?

Maybe Pat Robertson told them to?

December
11-05-2007, 10:06 PM
Why did they?

Maybe Pat Robertson told them to?


No.
The Halliburton people with connections in Washington did.

There are other so-called "dictators" in Latin American countries, but only Venezuela is a target.
Why?
Because Venezuela has oil.

:)

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Berlin is Russian city
read more -
http://www.democracyforums.com/showthread.php?tid=8982

Interrested
11-06-2007, 12:40 AM
Commenting on your retaliation to AlanC, it still sounds to me like you are in support of socialism. Not just Republicans, but most Conservatives overall are against socialism. Perhaps you are looking at things more as an Independent than a Conservative? I'd appreciate clarification.