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qwerty
11-03-2007, 04:32 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=k99tb_5lIBM

Scorpion
11-03-2007, 04:46 PM
http://uglydemocrats.com/democrats/United-States/Barack-Obama/clinton_obama.jpg

:madlaugh::madlaugh::madlaugh:

preservanation
11-03-2007, 05:26 PM
Obama responded yesterday: "We're not running for the president of the city council, we're running for the president of the United States of America."

"One of the things that she has suggested why she should be elected is because she's been playing in this rough-and-tumble stage," he said.

"So it doesn't make sense for her after having run that way for eight months, the first time that people start challenging her point of view, that suddenly, she backs off and says, 'Don't pick on me.' "

Team Clinton in the past has effectively harnessed perceptions that she's a victim - it was a key piece of her strategy against GOP rival Rick Lazio in her 2000 Senate race.http://www.nypost.com/seven/11032007/news/nationalnews/obama_to_clinton__cut_the_victim_act_646405.htm
Having it both ways... shows the way to the door.
Hillary has learned this too late in life for her to change her ways.

This was actually very good responses by Obama, he may have a bit more of a chance than I first gave him credit for..."I hope that Sen. Clinton wants to be treated like everybody else, and I think that that's why she's running for president," Obama said on NBC's "Today" show.

He added that Clinton was using a "don't pick on me" strategy that doesn't mesh with the image of strength she's tried to project.

"You know, when we had a debate back in Iowa a while back, we spent, I think, the first 15 minutes of the debate hitting me on various foreign-policy issues, and I didn't come out and say, 'Look, I'm being hit on because I look different from the rest of the folks on the stage,' " the only black candidate in the race said.

Scorpion
11-03-2007, 05:38 PM
I agree preserv. He came across as genuine, well spoken and stuck the knife in so skillfully that she probably didn't know what hit her.

preservanation
11-03-2007, 05:42 PM
One observation that I made during Obama's comments on stage, is that while Hillary was shooting absolute daggers at him, he only glanced at her once (furtively, at that).
He may truly be scared of her...I don't blame him!

preservanation
11-04-2007, 11:12 AM
In a telephone interview, Obama described Clinton's campaign as one that embraces the conventional wisdom of Washington, which he said argues that candidates "should be vague and avoid definitive answers in campaigns, in part to make yourself a smaller target to Republican attacks. . . . She has mastered that in this primary."
He called Tuesday's debate "Exhibit A" in what he was describing. "There was just an unwillingness on Senator Clinton's part to provide clear answers on pretty important issues," he said during the interview. "What I saw was an effort to position oneself so as not to offend or give Republicans any ammunition, and I understand that. But it's very hard, then, to make the claim that you're then going to be a significant agent of change."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/03/AR2007110300893_pf.html
What Obama is describing is exactly what Bill was so famously skilled at.
Hillary does not have that innate skill to triangulate and obfuscate that her husband had.

If, when she tries to throw a curve ball, it turns into a fastball on it's way to the plate...her opponents will hit it out of the park every time, and eventually the voting public will catch on as well.

Scorpion
11-04-2007, 12:14 PM
As the saying goes, "When you run with the big dogs expect to step in some sh*t." But being a Clinton, Hillary didn't just step in it, she splashed around in it spattering it on her fellow Democrats.

She needs to forget about becoming president and get back to the Shady Real Estate Deal Dept. of the Rose Law firm.

micfranklin
11-04-2007, 02:51 PM
Apparently this shows to the rest of the country that she does indeed have a weakness.

Labrocca
11-04-2007, 05:50 PM
I gotta say I really love the selection of candidates in the Democratic Party right now. Even Hillary. I would be proud to be a Democrat right now. For the GOP there is this sensation that the candidates are all basically the same except maybe Ron Paul. Rudy being probably the most extreme of the GOP selection and somehow...he is the front-runner...kind of scary imho.

Deadshot
11-04-2007, 06:06 PM
I gotta say I really love the selection of candidates in the Democratic Party right now. Even Hillary. I would be proud to be a Democrat right now. For the GOP there is this sensation that the candidates are all basically the same except maybe Ron Paul. Rudy being probably the most extreme of the GOP selection and somehow...he is the front-runner...kind of scary imho.



That right there is why the Dems' will win in '08. The country want's change, and barring a Ron Paul victory, all the other Republicans are more of the same.

Can't wait until '08:ecstatic:

preservanation
11-04-2007, 10:13 PM
As the saying goes, "When you run with the big dogs expect to step in some sh*t." But being a Clinton, Hillary didn't just step in it, she splashed around in it spattering it on her fellow Democrats.

She needs to forget about becoming president and get back to the Shady Real Estate Deal Dept. of the Rose Law firm.

Scorp, you KILL me.
Splashing and spattering...
LOL