View Full Version : Russia: Attacking Iran is attacking us
December
11-02-2007, 08:07 PM
Russia: Attacking Iran is attacking us
Sat, 27 Oct 2007
Iran and Russia have agreed on plans to quash Washington's relentless drive towards launching an attack on Iran.
Discussions took place during Russian President Vladimir Putin's recent visit to Tehran, according to the Asia Times.
Putin held a face-to-face meeting with Leader of the Islamic Revolution, Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei, where the agreement was finalized.
According to a high-level diplomatic source in Tehran, the Supreme Leader and the Russian president essentially agreed that an American attack on Iran would be viewed by Moscow as an attack on Russia.
The two states are officially united in a strategic partnership, in which World War III is definitely not on the cards.
US Vice President, Dick Cheney, who is notorious for elevating the war rhetoric against Iran at any given opportunity, is now facing an increasingly difficult challenge in fanning the flames of war.
The US president and top US officials, who often attempt to demonize Tehran as a threat to world peace, have themselves been threatening Iran with military force over the country's nuclear standoff with the West.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=28839§ionid=351020101
http://www.khamenei.ir/Data/Media/Photo/86/07/24C/smpl.jpg
"Iranians have a fine image from Russians in mind" - Ayatollah Sayed Ali Khamenei
http://www.leader.ir/langs/EN/index.php?p=news&id=3693
Russian President Meets the Leader
http://www.khamenei.ir/EN/News/detail.jsp?id=20071016C
The Sunburn - Iran's Russian Missile Could Destroy US Ships
The missile was specifically designed to defeat the US Aegis radar defense system. A single one of these missiles can sink a large warship, yet costs considerably less than a fighter jet.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/stopiranwar/message/98
http://warpolitics.blogs.sonance.net/files/2006/11/putin_gru1.jpg
jafar00
11-03-2007, 07:41 AM
Someone needs to teach putin how to wear ear protection without looking like a bit of an idiot :D
Scorpion
11-03-2007, 10:40 AM
Someone needs to teach putin how to wear ear protection without looking like a bit of an idiot :D
You are what you are...
http://thedefeatists.typepad.com/apoplectic/images/bush_putin.jpg
Two of a kind.
December
11-03-2007, 08:04 PM
Someone needs to teach putin how to wear ear protection without looking like a bit of an idiot :D
Yeah... sure...
http://www.judoinfo.com/images/putin.jpg
http://www.judoinfo.com/announce.htm
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2002/20021005/w4.jpg
Russian President Putin, a judo black belt, performs a throw during training on June 16, 2002.
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2002/20021005/world.htm
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/5160/Putin/judo2.jpg
Vladimir Putin throws a Japanese judo expert during a judo demonstration at the Kodokan in Tokyo, September 2000.
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/5160/Putin/sports.html[hr]Two of a kind.
:madlaugh:
I don't think so...
http://www.dvorak.org/blog/images/bush_stupid2.jpg
http://www.famousplagiarists.com/images/putin.jpg
Scorpion
11-03-2007, 08:26 PM
The Russian version of a tin foil hat...
http://images.evrazia.org/images/putin-tsar.jpg
Well, at least he's not wearing the ear protection.
:madlaugh::madlaugh::madlaugh::
Labrocca
11-03-2007, 10:16 PM
December you post some interesting international information at times.
micfranklin
11-04-2007, 12:38 AM
There's a good way to get Russia off our backs:
Don't invade Iran.
lawless168
11-04-2007, 01:47 PM
Wont be an "invasion" and it will be over with in about 30 minutes
jafar00
11-04-2007, 05:16 PM
Wont be an "invasion" and it will be over with in about 30 minutes
Didn't "they" say something along those lines about Iraq too?
micfranklin
11-04-2007, 06:13 PM
Wont be an "invasion" and it will be over with in about 30 minutes
Bush and Cheney apparently will have something else in mind...
December
11-04-2007, 10:47 PM
December you post some interesting international information at times.
Sure... Can I be a moderator?... :innocent:
Wont be an "invasion" and it will be over with in about 30 minutes
The Sunburn - Iran's Russian Missile Could Destroy US Ships
The missile was specifically designed to defeat the US Aegis radar defense system. A single one of these missiles can sink a large warship, yet costs considerably less than a fighter jet.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/stopiranwar/message/98
The Sunburn - Iran's Awesome Nuclear Anti-Ship Missile
The Weapon That Could
Defeat The US In The Gulf
The Sunburn Missile
I was shocked when I learned the facts about these Russian-made cruise missiles. The problem is that so many of us suffer from two common misperceptions. The first follows from our assumption that Russia is militarily weak, as a result of the breakup of the old Soviet system. Actually, this is accurate, but it does not reflect the complexities. Although the Russian navy continues to rust in port, and the Russian army is in disarray, in certain key areas Russian technology is actually superior to our own. And nowhere is this truer than in the vital area of anti-ship cruise missile technology, where the Russians hold at least a ten-year lead over the US. The second misperception has to do with our complacency in general about missiles-as-weapons probably attributable to the pathetic performance of Saddam Hussein's Scuds during the first Gulf war: a dangerous illusion that I will now attempt to rectify.
Many years ago, Soviet planners gave up trying to match the US Navy ship for ship, gun for gun, and dollar for dollar. The Soviets simply could not compete with the high levels of US spending required to build up and maintain a huge naval armada. They shrewdly adopted an alternative approach based on strategic defense. They searched for weaknesses, and sought relatively inexpensive ways to exploit those weaknesses. The Soviets succeeded: by developing several supersonic anti-ship missiles, one of which, the SS-N-22 Sunburn, has been called "the most lethal missile in the world today."
The Sunburn can deliver a 200-kiloton nuclear payload, or: a 750-pound conventional warhead, within a range of 100 miles, more than twice the range of the Exocet. The Sunburn combines a Mach 2.1 speed (two times the speed of sound) with a flight pattern that hugs the deck and includes "violent end maneuvers" to elude enemy defenses. The missile was specifically designed to defeat the US Aegis radar defense system. Should a US Navy Phalanx point defense somehow manage to detect an incoming Sunburn missile, the system has only seconds to calculate a fire solution not enough time to take out the intruding missile. The US Phalanx defense employs a six-barreled gun that fires 3,000 depleted-uranium rounds a minute, but the gun must have precise coordinates to destroy an intruder "just in time."
http://www.rense.com/general59/theSunburniransawesome.htm
http://www.currentissues.tv/Sunburn_Country.jpg
December
11-27-2007, 11:07 PM
Iran develops new long-range missile
27/ 11/ 2007
TEHRAN, November 27 (RIA Novosti) - Iran has produced a missile with a range of 2,000 kilometers (1,240 miles), the country's defense minister announced on Tuesday.
State media quoted Gen. Mostafa Mohammad Najjar as saying that the Ashoura missile has been produced at a factory related to the ministry.
The range of the missile would allow it to reach Israel, as well as United States military bases in the Middle East.
Najjar did not give details on the missile's characteristics, or say whether the weapon had been tested.
The minister stressed Iran's military doctrine is based on the principles of defense and deterrence, but said that the country will not hesitate to attack aggressors.
Long-range missiles, including Shahab missiles with a range of between 1,500 and 2,000 km, have already been placed on combat duty in the Iranian Armed Forces.
Najjar also said a new submarine, a destroyer and a missile escort ship will be introduced in the near future, to improve the country's positions in the Gulf.
http://en.rian.ru/world/20071127/89792583.html
http://www.khamenei.ir/Data/Media/Photo/86/07/24C/smpl.jpg
"Iranians have a fine image from Russians in mind" - Ayatollah Sayed Ali Khamenei
http://www.leader.ir/langs/EN/index.php?p=news&id=3693
December
12-14-2007, 12:04 AM
13/ 12/ 2007
Russia seeks early solution to Iran nuclear problem - Lavrov
MOSCOW, December 13 (RIA Novosti) - Russia is seeking an early solution to all issues on Iran's nuclear program, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Thursday opening talks with his Iranian counterpart Manouchehr Mottaki.
"We would sincerely like to have all issues surrounding the Iranian nuclear program settled. This could be achieved on the basis of the nuclear nonproliferation treaty, cooperation with the IAEA and recognition of Iran's right to peaceful use of nuclear energy," the Russian diplomat said.
Under an agreement reached between Iran and the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) in late August, Tehran committed itself to answering all of the agency's questions on its nuclear program.
Lavrov also urged Iran to join efforts in settling regional issues, including the Middle East conflict.
The Russian foreign minister praised intensive contacts between Moscow and Tehran in the past few months.
"We have a busy bilateral agenda," Lavrov said referring to the implementation of agreements reached during Russian President Vladimir Putin's visit to Tehran in October.
"It is very important that the approach, the business culture have become closer between the sides," Mottaki said, adding that bilateral trade between the two countries had increased recently by over 100%.
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20071213/92256177.html
December
01-02-2008, 11:44 PM
28/ 12/ 2007
The West takes notice as Russia and Iran get closer
MOSCOW. (RIA Novosti political commentator Pyotr Goncharov) - The West appears amazed to see Russian-Iranian strategic partnership surviving and even strengthening.
This partnership is quite logical, but the West turned its attention to it only with supplies of Russian long range surface-to-air S-300 missiles. Due to start in January, these supplies were agreed upon a long time ago. Judging by the response of the media, the West is panicky to see Russia stick to the promise.
The Guardian warns that modernized Russian air defense missile systems can hit U.S. and Israeli war aircraft, and S-300 are even better than Patriots at intercepting cruise missiles and IBM. But then, why would Iran need such weapons? Will they come on friendly visits or what?
The New York Times regards the upcoming deal as another arbitrary Russian step and reproaches President Bush for his tolerance as Russia starts fuel exports to the Bushehr nuclear plant. The newspaper could have regarded the fuel and missile supplies as an asymmetrical response to the American ABM in Europe. The same logic could also apply to the Kosovo issue.
Besides, the United States is also capable of arbitrary moves. In 2002, it banged the door on the ABM Treaty without giving any thought to Russia's reaction. Now, it is spreading its anti-missile defense to Europe despite the problems it would cause for Russia and, for that matter, to Europe if Russia hit back.
But then, why is Moscow to believe Washington that the European ABM system is targeted at Iran and not Russia? Is the U.S. any better than Iran, which is trying to convince the world that it will have no nuclear weapons because they go against Muslim precepts?
With a recent shift of policy toward Iran, Russia is now determined to comply with its pledges on the Iranian nuclear program, though within limits set by the IAEA.
Whatever crisis may befall Iran, Russia stands to lose-for instance, if the UN Security Council toughens its sanctions and the United States and the European Union wind down partnership with Iran. The world went through a similar situation when Russia did much to stop the isolation of Iran.
No better to Russia would be a limited U.S. missile strike on Iran, which would overthrow its president. Things would be downright disastrous if America unleashed a total war. Russia would not gain, either, with a secret U.S.-Iranian agreement-which appears the least probable option of all. Russia would also lose if Iran obtained nuclear arms. That would be a danger no smaller than the American ABM in Europe.
There is only one wise thing Russia can do: join efforts with its partners to settle the Iranian problem without radical measures. This is what Moscow is trying to do now-suffice it to say that fuel supplies to Bushehr have been coordinated with the White House.
Now, is it possible at all to settle the Iranian problem without acting tough? Is Moscow ready to do so? And is Iran gambling on its contacts with Russia? There are no clear answers to those burning questions, and it is hard to say whether S-300s have any bearing on them. Be that as it may, Russia will certainly bring its missiles to Iran.
http://en.rian.ru/analysis/20071228/94506867.html
apdst
01-03-2008, 08:48 AM
It appears that both Russia and Iran are entering into a high flea risk zone.
jafar00
01-03-2008, 06:56 PM
It appears that both Russia and Iran are entering into a high flea risk zone.
What does that mean? :grrrr:
vBulletin® v3.7.0, Copyright ©2000-2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.