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gemosological
11-01-2007, 12:34 AM
Looks like Fred Phelps, Westboro Church and his sicko whacko psycho family and congregation are beginning to get their due- and I'm damn glad to see it.

/www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/nation/5262645.html

The jury first awarded $2.9 million in compensatory damages. It returned in the afternoon with its decision to award $6 million in punitive damages for invasion of privacy and $2 million for causing emotional distress.

Snyder's attorney, Craig Trebilcock, had urged jurors to determine an amount "that says don't do this in Maryland again. Do not bring your circus of hate to Maryland again."

Church members routinely picket funerals of military personnel killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, carrying signs such as "Thank God for dead soldiers" and "God hates fags."

...and then there was this in the article:

Earlier, church members staged a demonstration outside the federal courthouse. Church founder Fred Phelps held a sign reading "God is your enemy," while Shirley Phelps-Roper stood on an American flag and carried a sign that read "God hates fag enablers." Members of the group sang "God Hates America" to the tune of "God Bless America."

And they call themselves "Americans"? They call themselves "Patriots"? They call themselves "Christian"? I do believe they are "Children of God", as Fred Phelps, his family and congregation will probably tell you. I also believe that, being the Children of God that they probably believe themselves to be that they have a helluva lot of growing up to do. Folks like them deserve what they got- and that should be just the beginning.

RRD
:fight:

RRD
:thumbsup:

Buck Laser
11-01-2007, 01:42 AM
Despite the fact that I truly believe in free speech and the other freedoms guaranteed in the first amendment, I'm tickled pink that they're sticking it to Ol' Fred Phelps. I haven't read the decision, but I hope they can make it stand without it becoming a free speech issue. I've been an ACLU member for nearly 25 years, and I stayed with them when they defended Limbaugh, so I guess I'd have to stay with them if they defend Fred. But I'd be pissed.

If there were ever anyone I'd wish harm on, it would be Fred.

ViolaLee
11-01-2007, 01:48 AM
Fundamentalist Christian extremists are just as psycho and brainwashed as fundamentalist Muslim extremists. They are cut from the same cloth.

Deadshot
11-01-2007, 02:00 AM
Fundamentalist Christian extremists are just as psycho and brainwashed as fundamentalist Muslim extremists. They are cut from the same cloth.


Agreed. What's interesting is what's happened to deal with Phelps around the mid-west.

Phelps, who's from Kansas, has been operating for years around here. His whole family are lawyers and live on a compound making money off frivolous lawsuits and pandering their hate. A few years ago a bunch of vets and bikers got together to keep Phelps away from the funerals after he started doing his "God hates soldiers" thing. The, because of Phelps, the bikers and vets began offering their services to homosexuals in the area.

They don't fight with Phelps, they simply counter protest to drown Phelps crew out. It's a great scene. No violence, no trying to reason with the idiots. Simply one group out voicing the other. It is great!

Labrocca
11-01-2007, 02:00 AM
Fundamentalist Christian extremists are just as psycho and brainwashed as fundamentalist Muslim extremists. They are cut from the same cloth.


And just as sick and psycho as any leftist liberal extremist group too.

micfranklin
11-01-2007, 02:19 AM
I'm proud someone in Maryland is finally kicking these people in the nuts. Now that I've thought about it, they are/were still expressing their point of views and just because you disagree with what someone stays doesn't mean we have to sue them for it.

Doesn't change the fact that it's been a long time coming for these "Christians."

lily
11-01-2007, 02:29 AM
His whole family are lawyers and live on a compound making money off frivolous lawsuits and pandering their hate.

Well.....on the one hand, they should have lots of money from the lawsuits they won to pay this lawsuit......on the other I can see them dragging this to court until the cows come home.

Either way, it's a message sent. I haven't read too much about them protesting any funerals lately.

ViolaLee
11-01-2007, 02:36 AM
Fundamentalist Christian extremists are just as psycho and brainwashed as fundamentalist Muslim extremists. They are cut from the same cloth.


And just as sick and psycho as any leftist liberal extremist group too.

Like tree huggers and animal rights activists?

:madlaugh:

gemosological
11-01-2007, 02:44 AM
Fundamentalist Christian extremists are just as psycho and brainwashed as fundamentalist Muslim extremists. They are cut from the same cloth.


You got it, Viola! :thumbsup: Why do you think I keep saying "Fundamentalism- It's the Fundamental problem"? The Fundamentalist Christians will probably tell you that the "End Times" are here and that things are shaping up for the War of Good and Evil. I wonder if they realize that the God they profess to believe in doesn't particularly appreciate humans judging what God chooses to create and what is for God alone to judge as good or evil. But I do know that it is basically said, somewhere in Revelations of St. John, that there will be multitudes of people crying out "Lord, Lord" and that the Master will turn his face away from them, rejecting them. I don't recall the Bible being particularly supportive of the rich and famous though I do recall reading quite a bit in the Bible about how to treat people less fortunate than yourself, about how if you have two coats and your neighbor has none give him one, about feeding and helping the poor and infirm, about how if you want to follow in the footsteps of Christ you need to give away your riches to the poor and follow Him- as in following His example.

And what song should come on the radio as I wrote those last five words? "Give Me Something to Believe In" by the group "Poison". What a coincidence, eh?
In the crowd I run with we call that a "God Shot"- or an affirmation of the truth or the correctness of what we are saying or doing. I mean, what are the odds of that particular song coming on at the exact same moment I'm writing those five words I did? Could that have been a sign? :ecstatic:

Thanks,[/i][/b] God! :D :cool:

RRD
:)

Deadshot
11-01-2007, 02:47 AM
Fundamentalist Christian extremists are just as psycho and brainwashed as fundamentalist Muslim extremists. They are cut from the same cloth.


And just as sick and psycho as any leftist liberal extremist group too.

Like tree huggers and animal rights activists?

:madlaugh:


I wouldn't put them in the same realm as Phelps, but...

I've read stories of the "tree huggers" putting steel shunts in trees, the loggers go to saw through them, with a chain saw, they hit the chunk and the saw backs up and can hurt them.

As to the PETA people, read there literature. They seriously believe that animals deserve the same rights as humans. I.e. I can't spay my dog or put my dog down.

ALL Extremist groups are FUBAR!

gemosological
11-01-2007, 03:02 AM
Fundamentalist Christian extremists are just as psycho and brainwashed as fundamentalist Muslim extremists. They are cut from the same cloth.


And just as sick and psycho as any leftist liberal extremist group too.

Like tree huggers and animal rights activists?

:madlaugh:


I wouldn't put them in the same realm as Phelps, but...

I've read stories of the "tree huggers" putting steel shunts in trees, the loggers go to saw through them, with a chain saw, they hit the chunk and the saw backs up and can hurt them.

As to the PETA people, read there literature. They seriously believe that animals deserve the same rights as humans. I.e. I can't spay my dog or put my dog down.

ALL Extremist groups are FUBAR!


You are absolutely correct in that, Deadshot. In that crowd I run with we also acknowledge that any extreme of thought or action is almost always inappropriate and wrong.

As to the "Tree Huggers" driving spikes into trees that was coming to an end way back in the late eighties, thank God. That is what I discovered was happening back in '88 when I lived in Redwood Country in Northern Cal. It is nice to know that there are at least some folks on the planet that can recognize their own mistakes and learn from them- and rectify their behavior. Now they just camp out in the trees to "occupy" them, lol! Gotta love that spirit!

RRD
:thumbsup: :)

Labrocca
11-01-2007, 04:08 AM
Fundamentalist Christian extremists are just as psycho and brainwashed as fundamentalist Muslim extremists. They are cut from the same cloth.


And just as sick and psycho as any leftist liberal extremist group too.

Like tree huggers and animal rights activists?

:madlaugh:


And environmentalist that won't let you remove deadly forest brush. :grrrr:

Oh and here...watch this video about extremist animal rights activists.
http://www.animalnews.info/video/movie/behind_the_mask.wmv

gemosological
11-01-2007, 04:13 AM
Fundamentalist Christian extremists are just as psycho and brainwashed as fundamentalist Muslim extremists. They are cut from the same cloth.


And just as sick and psycho as any leftist liberal extremist group too.

Like tree huggers and animal rights activists?

:madlaugh:


And environmentalist that won't let you remove deadly forest brush. :grrrr:

Oh and here...watch this video about extremist animal rights activists.
http://www.animalnews.info/video/movie/behind_the_mask.wmv


On that one I totally agree with you. It's that "extreme of opinion and action" thing again.

RRD
:)

Anti-Racism
11-01-2007, 05:03 AM
Despite the fact that I truly believe in free speech and the other freedoms guaranteed in the first amendment, I'm tickled pink that they're sticking it to Ol' Fred Phelps.

I'm in the same boat, only limited by the fact that for free speech to really exist, this sort of thing can't happen. However, free speech has never existed and never will, except through anonymity.