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preservanation
10-26-2007, 01:18 AM
WASHINGTON (AllPolitics, Jan. 14) -- First lady Hillary Rodham Clinton was interviewed under oath today by Whitewater independent counsel Kenneth Starr about the circumstances behind the White House's gathering of hundreds of sensitive FBI background files on previous White House employees. An administration official says the interview lasted just 15 minutes.
Mrs. Clinton has said she knows nothing about the controversy or the hiring of Craig Livingstone, the former aide who headed the office that collected the sensitive FBI material.

As Hillary campaign gears up, researchers and journalists finding it hard to get papers out of Presidential Library

BY GLENN THRUSH
glenn.thrush@newsday.com

March 19, 2007

WASHINGTON - The razor-edged rectangle of the William Jefferson Clinton Presidential Library juts from a bank on the burbling Arkansas River like a massive metal file cabinet plopped in the mud.

To tourists, it's a place to ogle the 42nd president's golf clubs or the former first lady's department-store-bought wedding dress. But to the dozens of reporters, historians, anti-Clinton types and eccentrics who have filed requests for documents from the library's archive, it is Little Rock's Fort Knox.

The museum's 138-million-page presidential archive could play an important role in determining how Hillary Rodham Clinton's controversial White House past will affect her attempt to reclaim 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

"I haven't received any documents or even a note indicating that they're searching the records," said Jeff Gerth, a former New York Times reporter who requested a wide range of the first lady's files for an unauthorized Clinton biography he's working on.

With the 2008 election looming, researchers are eager to unearth undisclosed details from eight years marked by controversy, scandal and high-wire politics.

The Clintons' longtime personal lawyer, Bruce Lindsey, who helped defend the couple in the 1990s, has veto power over the release of the most sensitive documents. Attempts to contact Lindsey weren't successful.

Among the documents requested: almost all of Hillary Clinton's files as first lady, eight years' worth of her daily White House schedules, office diaries, day planners and telephone logs, according to a list of Freedom of Information Act requests obtained by Newsday.

Requests also have been filed for the internal correspondence of Clinton's ill-fated early-1990s health care reform task force (despite a court ruling saying its deliberations could remain private) and detailed files on Filegate, Travelgate, Whitewater, Monica Lewinsky, the pardons scandal and even back-and-forth about Clinton's 2000 Senate bid.

Sixteen months after the library started accepting applications, no major request for sensitive documents pertaining to Clinton's first-lady years have been released.

Gerth, whose request was logged on Jan. 17, 2006, should be among the first to receive documents - or a rejection letter - based on the library's first-come, first-served policy. He has received neither.

National Archives officials say the sheer volume of interest in both Clintons is slowing things down. As of last month, the archive had received 336 requests for documents, correspondence and e-mails totaling 9 million pages. That's three times the material requested from George H.W. Bush's archive in its first year.

"This is a tremendously complex and convoluted process," said the library's supervising archivist, Melissa Walker. "We review documents line by line, document by document, not box by box. It takes a lot of time."

But there is a political component, too. Under the Presidential Records Act, an ex-president's designated representative, in this case Lindsey, has the power to reject any release under the catch-all justification that the document reveals internal White House deliberations.

These so-called "P5" rejections are only allowed for the 12 years after a president leaves office, but President George W. Bush issued a November 2001 executive order that effectively extends that power indefinitely.

Of the first 54 requests that were acted upon for both Clintons between January and November 2006, only four were granted - and they were for videos and ceremonial letters.

Since then, about 500,000 pages of documents have been released - but there's been little movement on the three biggest Hillary Clinton requests, according to the people who made them.

"We're getting nowhere," said Tom Fitton, executive director of Judicial Watch, a Washington-based conservative government watchdog group that has long investigated the Clintons. His organization wants to see Hillary Clinton's schedules and diaries. "We may have to consider filing a lawsuit but the legal issues are very, very complicated."

It will be interesting to see if one particular researcher obtains his documents for reasons that go beyond politics, not to mention the solar system.

No less than 77 of the FOIA requests - about a quarter of the total - are from UFO researcher Grant Cameron, who wants, among other things, "all files related to UFOs, Roswell, N.M., or flying saucers from the files of Hillary Clinton."

It's not clear whether Cameron's request will be granted.

THE CLINTON SCANDALS

Whitewater: Clintons accused of using political influence in the 1980s to profit from ill-fated Arkansas housing development. In 1996, Hillary Rodham Clinton discovered tax documents related to the matter in her personal quarters, two years after investigators requested them. Cleared of wrongdoing by Special Counsel Robert Ray.

Cattle Futures: In 1979, Hillary Clinton invested $1,000 in cattle futures under guidance from a politically connected friend; 10 months later she quit trading after turning a $99,000 profit. No wrongdoing found.

Travelgate: In 1994, several Bush appointees were fired from White House travel office and replaced with friends of the Clintons. Ray cleared Clintons of wrongdoing but said first lady may have had hand in the dismissals.

Filegate: In 1996, White House staffer improperly collected FBI files on executive department employees. Clintons cleared.

- Compiled by Glenn Thrush

Copyright 2007 Newsday Inc.
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USA althe Way
11-15-2007, 05:59 PM
lol the beast fronm the eats playin round agin,,her is no winner her is a whiner,,,,,,,:bye:

Buck Laser
11-15-2007, 06:17 PM
I don't read Preserve's posts, so I have no idea what kind of specific jag he's on, but it's been obvious to me that republicans in general are shitting their pants in fear that Senator Clinton will win the nomination.

And young All American Boy has already accused her of being a lesbian.

I think I'm getting a very strong whiff of fear from the right side of the political spectrum. :clapper: All I can say is "Be afraid. Be very afraid.

AnnEsthesia
11-15-2007, 06:33 PM
What exactly is a "beast fronm the eats"?

micfranklin
11-15-2007, 06:42 PM
Possibly "beast from the east."

Whatever it is, it's completely worthless to this topic, as is AllAmerican Boy

preservanation
11-16-2007, 12:26 PM
Hey, it's not just me.
The Dems seem to be having some very strong misgivings concerning their presumptive nominee.

BTW it's Bill Clinton who is the Beast that Eats.

Truth_and_Power
11-16-2007, 02:03 PM
Hey, it's not just me.
The Dems seem to be having some very strong misgivings concerning their presumptive nominee.

BTW it's Bill Clinton who is the Beast that Eats.


If you had a problem with secrecy you'd have brought it up sometime in the last 7 years. Nothing to see here, just blatant partisan mudslinging.

preservanation
11-16-2007, 02:11 PM
Are you slinging mud about mudslinging?

Truth_and_Power
11-16-2007, 02:14 PM
Are you slinging mud about mudslinging?


Blatant hypocrisy and partisanship turns me on you big boy.. gimme some more

preservanation
11-16-2007, 02:16 PM
Oh, I'll bring it on and give you some more, alright!

Stick to the topic.
Do you think Hillary is a liability to the Dems or not?

lily
11-16-2007, 02:49 PM
Preservation..........the first two are so old, it's already been hashed out. It's all old news. If they want to bring it back up, go through the papers they already have.

I will agree though that she is running on revising health care, that was also her pet project as First Lady. We should have those papers.

.........but sorry, in the long run it's not Clinton's fault:

But there is a political component, too. Under the Presidential Records Act, an ex-president's designated representative, in this case Lindsey, has the power to reject any release under the catch-all justification that the document reveals internal White House deliberations.

In protecting himself, he has given the power to others......better be careful what you wish for.