OMGWTF more nationbuilding?

[exigent]

Now it's cuba this time?


President Bush, seizing on Fidel Castro's fading health as a chance for rare change, will ask other nations Wednesday to help Cuba become a free society one day by committing money and political capital to the cause.

President Bush will give his first standalone address on Cuba in four years in a speech at the State Department.

In a speech at the U.S. State Department -- his first standalone address on Cuba in four years -- Bush will look to the day when Castro is gone.

Bush will describe a nation in which Cuban people choose a representative government and enjoy basic freedoms, with support from a broad international coalition.

Bush is expected to tout peaceful, pro-democracy movements in Cuba and call on other countries to get behind them. In a direct appeal to ordinary citizens in Cuba, he will tell them they have the power to change their country, but the White House said that is not meant to be a call for armed rebellion.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/24/bush.cuba.ap/index.html


Will this guy ever stop?

[exigent]

So Bush is tearing Cuba apart by denouncing the failed promises of the rulers after the revolution...

but

THAT revolution ousted Dictator Fulgencio Batista who was much worse than Castro but "supported" America, thus was on our payroll, along with dozens other worldwide oppressive pro-american dictators.

What an ass.

[Wndrtch]

So Bush is tearing Cuba apart by denouncing the failed promises of the rulers after the revolution...

but

THAT revolution ousted Dictator Fulgencio Batista who was much worse than Castro but "supported" America, thus was on our payroll, along with dozens other worldwide oppressive pro-american dictators.

What an ass.


Yup, that's right. We don't want Pro-American allies, just anti-Amercan allies.

Oh Brother!:dizzy:

[Questerr]

So Bush is tearing Cuba apart by denouncing the failed promises of the rulers after the revolution...

but

THAT revolution ousted Dictator Fulgencio Batista who was much worse than Castro but "supported" America, thus was on our payroll, along with dozens other worldwide oppressive pro-american dictators.

What an ass.


Yup, that's right. We don't want Pro-American allies, just anti-Amercan allies.

Oh Brother!:dizzy:


Are you saying it is okay for us to be allied with brutal dictators?

Do you not see what is hypocritical and morally reprehensible about that?

I don't care if a dictator is pro or anti US, they are a *dictator*. They shouldn't recieve our support.

[exigent]

heres a little about who Castro replaced


Cuban Army Sergeant Fulgencio Batista first seized power in a 1932 coup. He was President Roosevelt's handpicked dictator to counteract leftists who had overthrown strongman Cerardo Machado. Batista ruled or several years, then left for Miami, returning in 1952 just in time for another coup, against elected president Carlos Prio Socorras. His new regime was quickly recognized by President Eisenhower. Under Batista, U.S. interests flourished and little was said about democracy. With the loyal support of Batista, Mafioso boss Meyer Lansky developed Havana into an international drug port. Cabinet offices were bought and sold and military officials made huge sums on smuggling and vice rackets. Havana became a fashionable hot spot where America's rich and famous drank and gambled with mobsters. As the gap between the rich and poor grew wider, the poor grew impatient. In 1953, Fidel Castro led an armed group of rebels in a
failed uprising on the Moncada army barracks. Castro temporarily fled the country and Batista struck back with a vengeance. Freedom of speech was curtailed and subversive teachers, lawyers and public officials were fired from their jobs. Death squads tortured and killed thousands of "communists". Batista was assisted in his crackdown by Lansky and other members of organized crime who believed Castro would jeopardize their gambling and drug trade. Despite this, Batista remained a friend to Eisenhower and the US until he was finally overthrown by Castro in 1959.


Take your pick. A pro-american organized crime supporting dictator who is on our payroll or an anti-american dictator who refuses to play nice and allow us to sell our shit in cuba. We're just pissed that our hand-picked dictator got thrown out.

http://www.omnicenter.org/warpeacecollection/dictators.htm#batista

That link has a little blurb about the atrocities committed by other dictators that we supported, and didnt care what happened in their country...

[Labrocca]

So because of past mistakes we shouldn't try to help Cuba? I don't see how it's relevant that 50 years ago we helped a dictator.

Reality is that US interests should be considered whenever we deal with a foreign nation. Reality is that sometimes what is good for Americans...isn't good for that country but guess what...that's tough shit.

What country doesn't look out for itself above all others? I don't expect our government to act any differently. To believe in utopian societies where everyone holds hands is plain ignorance of what's going on in this world.

[exigent]

Reality is that we have our own problems, some embarassing problems and maybe shouldnt be strutting our shit and force feeding other nations. My tax dollars would be better spent on getting homeless people off the streets, vaccinating babies, educating minorities, etc.

[lily]

It's going to be a battle between Chavez and Bush, that is if Castro doesn't hold out until Bush is out of office.