Che Guevara...The Commie Jesus

[moses2792796]

God's lovechild and Che have alot in common. They both tried to save the suffering...they both paid with thier lives, both selfless, and both became something of cult figures thanks to their noble deeds.:nana:

[Scorpion]

Che practiced a doctrine of revolution by any means necessary, including armed force.

Jesus practiced a doctrine of peace.

Ideologically they couldn't have further apart in their beliefs.

[PatrickHenry]

Armed struggle in the context of armed repression of grinding poverty makes Che quite understandable.

Jesus is a lot more mysterious.

[maybe-not]

Well, Ché have a lot of lives on his consciousness, not all i can agree with being necessary kills. However, he was (mostly) a good Comrade of the revolution, and if not his means, then at least the end should be rather satisfactory.

However, if put at a choice, i would not do some of the things he did.

[moses2792796]

I just can't resist a pretty face.

[preservanation]

Do you mean like these, maybe?180 DOCUMENTED VICTIMS OF CHÉ GUEVARA IN CUBA: 1957 TO 1959

From: Armando M. Lago, Ph.D., Cuba. The Human Cost of Social Revolutions, unedited

Manuscript pending publication. Information provided by the TRUTH RECOVERY ARCHIVE ON CUBA

an undertaking of the FREE SOCIETY PROJECT, INC.

The exact number of Che’s Cuban victims has not been verified, but include people he personally

executed and those put to death under his orders. Che’s biographers consistently report that he sent

thousands to the firing squad. Over 4,000 deaths are documented to have taken place in Cuba, mostly

firing squad execution, in the first three years after Fidel Castro’s takeover (1959-1962). Che Guevara

was one of the regime’s chief executioners during this period and is said to have acknowledged ordering

"several thousand" executions. All took place without affording the victims fair trials and due process of law.

The following list is not exhaustive and only includes cases for which historic reference is known. Names are

cited as reported; dates and additional details for most are available. Combat deaths caused by Che in Cuba

and killings in countries where he led guerrilla operations have not been tallied.

14 executed by Che in the Sierra Maestra during the anti-Batista guerrilla struggle (1957-1958):

1. ARISTIDIO 2. MANUEL CAPITÁN 3. JUAN CHANG 4. “BISCO” ECHEVARRÍA 5. ECHEVARRÍA BROTHER #1

6. ECHEVARRÍA BROTHER #2 7. EUTIMIO GUERRA 8. DIONISIO LEBRIGIO 9. JUAN LEBRIGIO 10. “EL NEGRO” NÁPOLES

11. “CHICHO” OSORIO 12. ONE UNIDENTIFIED TEACHER (“EL MAESTRO) 13.-14. 2 UNIDENTIFIED PEASANTS

10 executed in Santa Clara at Che’s orders in only two days (January 1959):

1. RAMÓN ALBA 2. JOSÉ BARROSO 3. JOAQUÍN CASILLAS 4. FÉLIX CRUZ 5. ALEJANDRO GARCÍA OLAYÓN

6. HÉCTOR MIRABAL 7. J. MIRABAL 8. FÉLIX MONTANO 9. CORNELIO ROJAS 10. VILALLA


156 executed at La Cabaña Fortress prison at Che Guevara’s orders:

1. VILAU ABREU 2. HUMBERTO AGUIAR 3. GERMÁN AGUIRRE 4. PELAYO ALAYÓN 5. JOSÉ LUIS ALFARO

6. PEDRO ALFARO 7. MARIANO ALONSO 8. JOSÉ ALVARO 9. ANIELLA 10. MARIO ARES POLO

11. JOSÉ RAMÓN BACALLAO 12. CEVERINO BARRIOS 13. EUGENIO BÉCQUER 14. FRANCISCO BÉCQUER

15. RAMÓN BISCET 16. ROBERTO CALZADILLA 17. EUFEMIO CANO 18. JUAN CAPOTE FIALLO

19. ANTONIO CARRALERO 20. GERTRUDIS CASTELLANOS 21. JOSÉ CASTAÑO QUEVEDO 22. RAÚL CASTAÑO

23. EUFEMIO CHALA 24. JOSÉ CHAMACE 25. JOSÉ CHAMIZO 26. RAÚL CLAUSELL 27. ÁNGEL CLAUSELL

28. DEMETRIO CLAUSELL 29. JOSÉ CLAUSELL 30. ELOY CONTRERAS 31. ALBERTO CORBO 32. EMILIO CRUZ

33. JUAN FELIPE CRUZ 34. ORESTES CRUZ 35. HUMBERTO CUEVAS 36. CUNY 37. ANTONIO DE BECHE

38. MATEO DELGADO 39. ARMANDO DELGADO 40. RAMÓN DESPAIGNE 41. JOSÉ DÍAZ CABEZAS

42. ANTONIO DUARTE 43. RAMÓN FERNÁNDEZ OJEDA 44. RUDY FERNÁNDEZ 45. FERRÁN ALFONSO

46. SALVADOR FERRERO 47. VICTOR FIGUEREDO 48. EDUARDO FORTE 49. UGARDE GALÁN

50. RAFAEL GARCÍA MUÑIZ 51. ADALBERTO GARCÍA 52. ALBERTO GARCÍA 53. JACINTO GARCÍA

54. EVELIO GASPAR 55. ARMADA GIL Y DIEZ CABEZAS 56. JOSÉ GONZÁLEZ MALAGÓN 57. EVARISTO GONZÁLEZ

58. EZEQUIEL GONZÁLEZ 59. SECUNDINO GONZÁLEZ 60. RICARDO GRAO 61. BONIFACIO GRASSO

62. RICARDO JOSÉ GRAU 63. OSCAR GUERRA 64. JULIÁN HERNÁNDEZ 65. FRANCISCO HERNÁNDEZ LEYVA

66. ANTONIO HERNÁNDEZ 67. GERARDO HERNÁNDEZ 68. OLEGARIO HERNÁNDEZ 69. SECUNDINO HERNÁNDEZ

70. JESÚS INSUA 71. ENRIQUE IZQUIERDO 72. OSMÍN JORRÍN 73. SILVINO JUNCO 74. ENRIQUE LA ROSA

75. IGNACIO LASAPARLA 76. JESÚS LAZO 77. ARIEL LIMA LAGO 78. RAÚL LÓPEZ VIDAL 79. ARMANDO MAS

80. ENERLIO MATA 81. ELPIDIO MEDEROS 82. JOSÉ MEDINAS 83. JOSÉ MESA 84. FIDEL MESQUÍA

85. JUAN MILIÁN 86. FRANCISCO MIRABAL 87. LUIS MIRABAL 88. ERNESTO MORALES 89. PEDRO MOREJÓN

90. DR. CARLOS MUIÑO, MD. 91. CÉSAR NECOLARDES ROJAS 92. VICTOR NECOLARDES ROJAS 93. JOSÉ NUÑEZ

94. VITERBO O'RREILLY 95. FÉLIX OVIEDO 96. MANUEL PANEQUE 97. PEDRO PEDROSO 98. RAFAEL PEDROSO

99. DIEGO PÉREZ CUESTA 100. JUAN PÉREZ 101. DIEGO PÉREZ CRELA 102. JOSÉ POZO 103. EMILIO PUEBLA

104. ALFREDO PUPO 105. SECUNDINO RAMÍREZ 106. RAMÓN RAMOS 107. PABLO RAVELO 108. RUBÉN REY

109. MARIO RISQUELME 110. FERNANDO RIVERA 111. PABLO RIVERA 112. MANUEL RODRÍGUEZ

113. MARCOS RODRÍGUEZ 114. NEMESIO RODRÍGUEZ 115. PABLO RODRÍGUEZ 116. RICARDO RODRÍGUEZ

117. JOSÉ SALDARA 118. PEDRO SANTANA 119. SERGIO SIERRA 120. JUAN SILVA 121. FAUSTO SILVA

122. ELPIDIO SOLER 123. JESÚS SOSA BLANCO 124. RENATO SOSA 125. SERGIO SOSA 126. PEDRO SOTO

127. OSCAR SUÁREZ 128. RAFAEL TARRAGO 129. TEODORO TELLEZ CISNEROS 130. FRANCISCO TELLEZ

131. JOSÉ TIN 132. FRANCISCO TRAVIESO 133. LEONARDO TRUJILLO 134. TRUJILLO 135. LUPE VALDÉS BARBOSA

136. MARCELINO VALDÉS 137. ANTONIO VALENTÍN 138. MANUEL VÁZQUEZ 139. SERGIO VÁZQUEZ 140. VERDECIA

141. DÁMASO ZAYAS

*15 additional executions were reported by The New York Times (on 2/6/59, 2/8/59, 3/16/59, and 4/2/59),

but names are unknown.

TRUTH RECOVERY ARCHIVE ON CUBA an undertaking of the FREE SOCIETY PROJECT, INC. www.CubaArchive.org
http://www.therealcuba.com/MurderedbyChe.htm

Stop buying the shirts and mugs and get some facts.

[moses2792796]

That guy was cool.

If only his politics weren't retarded.

[preservanation]

That guy was cool.

If only his politics weren't retarded.
Hi, moses.
Right back at you, chulo!
:D

[moses2792796]

If I was gay I'd probably be in love with him. Actually maybe it wasn't his politics that were retarded, but his reasoning, at the same time I have to respect him for it. Same way I feel about Jesus.

[preservanation]

You should learn to stop when you're ahead.
Not much of a poker player, are you?

[moses2792796]

I only gamble what I can afford to lose, and then I borrow some more, fun>money.

[preservanation]

I only gamble what I can afford to lose, and then I borrow some more, fun>money.
Spoken like a true ward of the State.

[maybe-not]

Yes, like those people. But most of them, were officers of the Old Regime.
Doesn't make them justified kills though.

[preservanation]

Ok, I'll play...just because I'm an adult and have a choice.
What, in your world, is a "justified kill"?

[moses2792796]

Justified kill means you overpowered the opposition by honourable means, no underhanded sneaking around bullcrap, guerilla's don't count as dishonourable, numbers differences make their decisions for them. Don't talk to me about morals, let's talk about natures morals eg. survival of the fittest.

[maybe-not]

Ok, I'll play...just because I'm an adult and have a choice.
What, in your world, is a "justified kill"?


A soldier in war. A cop in a Police state. A Dictator.


Justified kill means you overpowered the opposition by honourable means, no underhanded sneaking around bullcrap, guerilla's don't count as dishonourable, numbers differences make their decisions for them. Don't talk to me about morals, let's talk about natures morals eg. survival of the fittest.


Survival of the fittest? no way.

[preservanation]

MN, Have you ever participated in a snuff-film?
You can tell me.
No one else will hear.
Shhhhh......

[moses2792796]

Survival of the fittest means pedophiles get shot in the street, doesn't sounds like such a bad place. Let's start shooting homos, jews, blacks and anyone else we don't like while we're at it, anyone with IQ <120 can go as well....I think I'm gonna like it here (wherever that may be).

PS. MN could you send me a copy of that snuff film?

[maybe-not]

MN, Have you ever participated in a snuff-film?
You can tell me.
No one else will hear.
Shhhhh......


I'm sorry for my bad English but.. what is a snuff-film?

[moses2792796]

It's illegal, does that give you a clue?

[preservanation]

MN, Have you ever participated in a snuff-film?
You can tell me.
No one else will hear.
Shhhhh......


I'm sorry for my bad English but.. what is a snuff-film?

Nothing to do with tobacco, A-hole.

[moses2792796]

MN, Have you ever participated in a snuff-film?
You can tell me.
No one else will hear.
Shhhhh......


I'm sorry for my bad English but.. what is a snuff-film?

Nothing to do with tobacco, A-hole.


Hey go easy on him, pedophiles have feelings too.

[maybe-not]

It's illegal, does that give you a clue?





MN, Have you ever participated in a snuff-film?
You can tell me.
No one else will hear.
Shhhhh......


I'm sorry for my bad English but.. what is a snuff-film?

Nothing to do with tobacco, A-hole.






MN, Have you ever participated in a snuff-film?
You can tell me.
No one else will hear.
Shhhhh......


I'm sorry for my bad English but.. what is a snuff-film?

Nothing to do with tobacco, A-hole.


Hey go easy on him, pedophiles have feelings too.


Oh, Party Van summoners.

And no, i haven't.

[ttriber]

Che Guevera a communist pig a "Butcher" a man who would kill before knowing anything the person did. The people who support El Che are mostly people who don't know what he did and support him just because he was a rebel.

Maybe the book by Humberto Fontova may help you guys who love the "Butcher".
Exposing the Real Che Guevara: And the Useful Idiots Who Idolize Him

[Scorpion]

Did you know that Che was trained as a physician? Puts him in the same league as the Nazi Mengele.