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micfranklin
10-10-2007, 01:00 AM
Pretty self-explanatory, it's on right now and I'm risking watching some of House for this.
And the strange thing is Giuliani, McCain, Romney, and Thompson actually showed up to this one.
ViolaLee
10-10-2007, 01:06 AM
Oh shit I forgot. OK see ya later, I'll go watch.
micfranklin
10-10-2007, 01:08 AM
I don't know too much about economy so I don't know how much help I can be but at least no one's being an asshole.
And the strange thing is Giuliani, McCain, Romney, and Thompson actually showed up to this one.
Since it was here, we got it live at 4:00. I TIVOed it........so I guess it's not live anymore.;)
They would have been fools not to show up for two reasons. Our economy is so bad and the Democrats canceled their debates here.
micfranklin
10-10-2007, 01:19 AM
If they didn't show up I'd think they were purposely missing out.
I'm still a little suspect about the Sept 27 debate though.....:ponder:
ViolaLee
10-10-2007, 01:45 AM
Wow I think I just saw Romney kick Giuliani's ass.
Those two've bickering for weeks now.
micfranklin
10-10-2007, 02:51 AM
Well I must admit they had some pretty good jokes in the debate too.
Well........I suppose I should turn the computer off and go watch it. I'm dying to know how Thompson did.
ViolaLee
10-10-2007, 04:07 AM
The headlines are that Giuliani and Romney feud steals Thompson's show. I had to make a bunch of phone calls - ugh - putting out fires for the non-profit I am the President of - so I missed most of the debate. But I saw Giuliani mention Hillary a bunch of times. He is really very harsh that guy. Romney and he were arguing about who cut taxes the most. I think Romney was annoyed that Giuliani was telling lies about Romney's record.
micfranklin
10-10-2007, 12:38 PM
Now that I think about it the whole debate wasn't particularly interesting, but I like how Giuliani is reduced to telling lies about Romney's record.
Giuliani making a big deal out of "his part" in getting the Clinton line item veto taken away had me rolling on the floor. Especially when he said he was the only person to take Clinton to court and win.
I didn't watch the whole thing, I was mostly interested in how Thompson would do in his first debate. Not a good showing from what I watched. First he praised how the economy was doing so great, like he memorized a script........and then saying how bad the economy was in an answer later on.
ViolaLee
10-11-2007, 06:07 AM
Now that I think about it the whole debate wasn't particularly interesting, but I like how Giuliani is reduced to telling lies about Romney's record.
Giuliani is not an honest man. Anyone who would announce to his wife through a press conference that he is getting a divorce cannot be trusted. He's a weasle if there ever was one.
micfranklin
10-11-2007, 10:56 AM
Now that I think about it the whole debate wasn't particularly interesting, but I like how Giuliani is reduced to telling lies about Romney's record.
Giuliani is not an honest man. Anyone who would announce to his wife through a press conference that he is getting a divorce cannot be trusted. He's a weasle if there ever was one.
That's not just dishonest that's dirty.....no, that's really grimey.
preservanation
10-11-2007, 11:34 AM
On a related issue...Just because a man is an admitted adulterer and liar, doesn't mean that he wouldn't make a good president.
Just ask a lib,
or Hillary...
jafar00
10-11-2007, 12:10 PM
On a related issue...Just because a man is an admitted adulterer and liar, doesn't mean that he wouldn't make a good president.
Just ask a lib,
or Hillary...
Or George
preservanation
10-12-2007, 12:12 PM
jafar, you make this claim every day at a drop of a hat, but I'm still unclear what Bush lied about.
Can you fill me in with one example?
And please use the accepted definition of "lie" and not some contrived ideologically driven version of "New-speak".
Thank you[hr]You continuously make comparisons to Clinton's lies which are universally accepted as lies using the universally accepted definition of what a lie is.
There is no one who can dispute that Bill Clinton lied... under any definition of what a lie is.
To make the comparison to whatever you think Bush did and what Clinton did, requires proof and specific examples of how Bush's statements rise to that level of bald face purposeful deceit.
You don't have it.
Put that line in the closet for a while until you can come up with something way better than WMDs.
Everybody believed that Saddam had them including Clinton, Gore, Albright, etc, as well as the UN and the rest of the world community.
Believing something is true by going with very credible evidence as Bush did and the lies Clinton told are two separate and very different things.
Can you understand that?
micfranklin
10-12-2007, 04:19 PM
He lied about going to Iraq and now he's lying about the U.S. torturing people. There I said it.
BoogyMan
10-12-2007, 11:59 PM
But you should also notice that there was not a single whiner complaining about the choice of partisan nutjob and all around loud mouth loon, Chris Matthews, as debate moderator.
I have searched and have not found a single reference to a conservative candidate moaning and refusing to appear. :D
preservanation
10-13-2007, 10:35 AM
He lied about going to Iraq and now he's lying about the U.S. torturing people. There I said it.
Do you have any proof?
Opinion is not what I was asking for.[hr]
Yellow Cake
Ditto, to you lily.
Joe Wilson admitted lying, and was shown to do so in his NYT opinion piece concerning his findings on Saddam's search for the acquisition of yellow-cake.
This is all lame and you know it!
Put it in the closet with jafar's and micfranklin's bias and old-hat nonsense, as well.[hr]
But you should also notice that there was not a single whiner complaining about the choice of partisan nutjob and all around loud mouth loon, Chris Matthews, as debate moderator.
I have searched and have not found a single reference to a conservative candidate moaning and refusing to appear. :D
If they ever dared to do so every media outlet would proclaim from the rooftops.."If they can't handle MSNBC or the bias of Mathews, how can they handle Al Qaeda????"
(Obviously FNC is way more dangerous to the libs than Chavez, Castro, Syria or Ahmonajihad, BTW)
At least the Republicans realize that glaring double standard.
They can't get a fair shake.
I wish that they could point that out more clearly though!
It would earn them 10 points with the public...at least![hr]"I never had sex with that women, Monica Lewinsky, not one time."
That's a lie.
He and the world admits that.
Why do I keep "harping" on that?
Because you libs try to compare that to Bush.
That's why.
Ditto, to you lily.
Joe Wilson admitted lying, and was shown to do so in his NYT opinion piece concerning his findings on Saddam's search for the acquisition of yellow-cake.
This is all lame and you know it!
Put it in the closet with jafar's and micfranklin's bias and old-hat nonsense, as well.
Really? Someone better tell the White House and Ari Fleisher! (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/07/09/iraq/main562312.shtml)
"I never had sex with that women, Monica Lewinsky, not one time."
That's a lie.
He and the world admits that.
Why do I keep "harping" on that?
Because you libs try to compare that to Bush.
That's why.
We do?
micfranklin
10-14-2007, 03:28 AM
Do you have any proof?
Opinion is not what I was asking for.
Funny because I wasn't giving an opinion. From what I know Iraq was not a threat until we invaded, there were no WMDs in Iraq even though Bush said otherwise and he continues to lie about the US not torturing when the Abu Gharib scandal has already proven otherwise.
Please don't be a "Bush is innocent" type person. There's nothing innocent about breaking the law multiple times and lying about it.
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