View Full Version : The terms that define us. Gays and Normals?
throowrocks
10-09-2007, 03:26 AM
Homosexuals prefer to be called "gays" We the majority heterosexuals are deemed "straight". Well, I as a heterosexual prefer to be called a "normal". Whats good for the goose is good for the gander. So it shall be, on the day of our lord, October 8th 2007. Let this ring loudly through out the land. The faggots now "gays". The "straights" now normals.
JohnnyAwake
10-09-2007, 03:45 AM
Homosexuals prefer to be called "gays" We the majority heterosexuals are deemed "straight". Well, I as a heterosexual prefer to be called a "normal". Whats good for the goose is good for the gander. So it shall be, on the day of our lord, October 8th 2007. Let this ring loudly through out the land. The faggots now "gays". The "straights" now normals.
I'm not quite sure I understand the point of this thread. Are you complaining of sort type of double standard with "labels"? Or are just trying to mock the arrogance that has amassed in that little Neoconservative circle.
Well............I so happy for you, Mr. Rocks!
Buck Laser
10-09-2007, 03:47 AM
Homosexuals prefer to be called "gays" We the majority heterosexuals are deemed "straight". Well, I as a heterosexual prefer to be called a "normal". Whats good for the goose is good for the gander. So it shall be, on the day of our lord, October 8th 2007. Let this ring loudly through out the land. The faggots now "gays". The "straights" now normals.
How about we just call you "Norm?":ecstatic:
throowrocks
10-09-2007, 03:59 AM
You don't have to understand, that's the point. I don't understand why their called gays? A fag's a fag. Calling them gay doest change the activity their promoting. It will always be a tarnished part of our society.
PatrickHenry
10-09-2007, 04:07 AM
You don't have to understand, that's the point. I don't understand why their called gays? A fag's a fag. Calling them gay doest change the activity their promoting. It will always be a tarnished part of our society.
Why would you insist on using terms that others find derogatory?
The word fag is not friendly.
And why not stick with a standardized terminology like gay and straight? what are you trying to prove?
Are you without sin, rocky? :ponder:
The person you're most capable of changing is yourself. My advice is to get to it. You'll be glad you did. :)
AlonzoMourning23
10-09-2007, 04:44 AM
Homosexuals prefer to be called "gays" We the majority heterosexuals are deemed "straight". Well, I as a heterosexual prefer to be called a "normal". Whats good for the goose is good for the gander. So it shall be, on the day of our lord, October 8th 2007. Let this ring loudly through out the land. The faggots now "gays". The "straights" now normals.
It's the same reason we don't use the terms coon and honky. The terms are by their very nature derogatory. There's no difference between someone who calls you a honky/coon (whichever applies) than when you call someone else a fag. There are appropriate words that indicate the group a person belongs to that are designed to offend them.
Lazarus
10-09-2007, 04:53 AM
I sure as Hell wouldn't label you as " normal ".
There is no such thing.
ViolaLee
10-09-2007, 05:19 AM
Homosexuals call eachother fag, I guess just like African Americans call eachother nigga.
I'm not exactly sure but I don't think gays mind being called fag or queer as long as you do it in a kind way.
Of course when throowrocks does it, it's very unkind, so any of those terms would be an insult.
I don't think you qualify as normal throo....you qualify as mean and nasty.
;)
I Like Beer
10-09-2007, 01:35 PM
From the Journal of Abnormal Psychology....
http://www.oogachaga.com/downloads/homophobia_and_homosexual_arousal.pdf
The authors investigated the role of homosexual arousal in exclusively heterosexual men who admitted negative affect toward homosexual individuals. The men were exposed to sexually explicit erotic stimuli consisting of heterosexual, male homosexual, and lesbian videotapes, and changes in penile circumference were monitored. Only the homophobic men showed an increase in penile erection to male homosexual stimuli. The groups did not differ in aggression. Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies.
Is there really anything else to say?
Deadshot
10-09-2007, 02:33 PM
Hey this America, call homosexuals what you will. You can do the same with women or people of different races or religions.
But it's all in the name of hate. Our homophobic poster simply wants to hate on someone, so if the name stings, he will use it.
But we must remember that this is America, and the other side or those who differ from the homophobic poster will begin to use names refering to him that may sting too.
Tit for tat is a pretty easy game to play. Though it produces more hatred, like "an eye for an eye" then anything else...sadly it's how we debate and argue anymore. Intelligence and logic, as with compassion, has been destroyed by the right.
I Like Beer
10-09-2007, 02:37 PM
Hey this America, call homosexuals what you will. You can do the same with women or people of different races or religions.
But it's all in the name of hate. Our homophobic poster simply wants to hate on someone, so if the name stings, he will use it.
But we must remember that this is America, and the other side or those who differ from the homophobic poster will begin to use names refering to him that may sting too.
Tit for tat is a pretty easy game to play. Though it produces more hatred, like "an eye for an eye" then anything else...sadly it's how we debate and argue anymore.
QFT!
Deadshot
10-09-2007, 02:39 PM
QFT!
Little Help? I not as hip and coo...o.k., I've never been really hip or cool and I have no clue as to what "QFT" means...:help:
I Like Beer
10-09-2007, 02:45 PM
QFT!
Little Help? I not as hip and coo...o.k., I've never been really hip or cool and I have no clue as to what "QFT" means...:help:
Sorry.... QFT is Quoted For Truth, as in, I agree 100%.
PatrickHenry
10-09-2007, 05:45 PM
Let's try to keep it friendly, compadres.
Maybe we can persuade throowrocks that it is best to "seek first to understand."
In any case, calling him names is just flaming, not really allowed here regardless of his own POV, which most of us find shameful.
Truth_and_Power
10-09-2007, 06:00 PM
His name is "throw rocks" and you think we should teach him to seek to understand? I'm pretty sure it's you who does not understand.
PatrickHenry
10-09-2007, 06:12 PM
I'm an optimist about people!
Deadshot
10-09-2007, 06:41 PM
I'm an optimist about people!
This coming from the guy who's avatar is the POTUS behind bars with the title "war criminal" :madlaugh:
PatrickHenry
10-09-2007, 06:45 PM
I'm an optimist about people!
This coming from the guy who's avatar is the POTUS behind bars with the title "war criminal" :madlaugh:
Bush is actually an alien reptilian shapeshifter!
Deadshot
10-09-2007, 06:54 PM
OH SHIT! it's V!!!!
http://www.moviepoopshoot.com/news/june03/images/daily/49.jpg
http://members.aol.com/spidermakr/v.jpg:madlaugh:
Kyi Yo
10-11-2007, 08:35 PM
From the Journal of Abnormal Psychology....
http://www.oogachaga.com/downloads/homophobia_and_homosexual_arousal.pdf
The authors investigated the role of homosexual arousal in exclusively heterosexual men who admitted negative affect toward homosexual individuals. The men were exposed to sexually explicit erotic stimuli consisting of heterosexual, male homosexual, and lesbian videotapes, and changes in penile circumference were monitored. Only the homophobic men showed an increase in penile erection to male homosexual stimuli. The groups did not differ in aggression. Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies.
Is there really anything else to say?
Nope!
Did they test any non-homophobic straight men?
I Like Beer
10-14-2007, 02:03 PM
Did they test any non-homophobic straight men?
Yes, they were the control group.
Here's the link, you can read the entire paper.
From the Journal of Abnormal Psychology....
http://www.oogachaga.com/downloads/homop...rousal.pdf
That's very interesting.
Why we feel the need to put others lower than ourselves, will forever be a mystery.
I think homosexuals have a rightful place in society, and deserve to be called names as much as anyone else. In fact, the homosexuals I know are more accepting and more kind than a lot of "straight" people, because they have to deal with namecalling, societal expectations, and the burden of being different. I'm still in high school, and I believe the desire to fit in is stronger in the teen years than any other time in people's lives. Why can't we at least try to be civilized, and accept people for who they are????
Muser
01-14-2008, 03:08 AM
That's very interesting. Why we feel the need to put others lower than ourselves, will forever be a mystery.Not a mystery, really - it's been a human trait for thousands of years; or as a colleague of mine likes to say: it's "people being people".
I think homosexuals have a rightful place in society, and deserve to be called names as much as anyone else.Errrr....are you quite sure that's what you meant to type? ;) The homosexuals I'm friends with do, in fact, like to call each other names (in the spirit of fun) - queen, butch, poof, nellie, bitch... :cool:
Why can't we at least try to be civilized, and accept people for who they are????Couldn't agree more. But...would that also include accepting throowrocks for who s/he is? :dizzy:
Osborn F. Enready
01-15-2008, 09:48 PM
Last time I checked, being an individual person entails having individual rights.
Sexual prefrence is an individual issue, which means it is subjective to the individual and not universal.
Gays and Lesbians have the same rights as any other individual, and to see them as "different" because you don't agree with their lifestyle is absurd, and has the stench of elitism.
I respect all individuals rights, as individuals, which are equal under the law.
The OP of this thread is obviously not able to defend the position they have argued, since they haven't been back?
If that person is still reading, or anyone else is who holds that position, I would like to know why any individual should get preferential treatment over another, in the eyes of the law?
Labrocca
01-15-2008, 09:55 PM
I like gays...they make for great television entertainment. Nothing is funnier than a flaming homosexual. Yes...I like to laugh at people I think are abnormal.
Here is an interesting comment from dictionary.com.
n. Usage Problem.
A homosexual person; a gay man or a lesbian.
USAGE NOTE Many people now avoid using homosexual because of the emphasis this term places on sexuality. Indeed, the words gay and lesbian, which stress cultural and social matters over sex, are frequently better choices. Homosexual is most objectionable when used as a noun; here gay man and gay woman or lesbian and their plural forms are called for. It is generally unobjectionable when used adjectivally, as in a homosexual relationship, although gay, lesbian, or same-sex are also available for adjectival use. See Usage Notes at gay.
From the Journal of Abnormal Psychology....
http://www.oogachaga.com/downloads/homophobia_and_homosexual_arousal.pdf
The authors investigated the role of homosexual arousal in exclusively heterosexual men who admitted negative affect toward homosexual individuals. The men were exposed to sexually explicit erotic stimuli consisting of heterosexual, male homosexual, and lesbian videotapes, and changes in penile circumference were monitored. Only the homophobic men showed an increase in penile erection to male homosexual stimuli. The groups did not differ in aggression. Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies.
Is there really anything else to say?
:thumbsup:
This issue was discussed quite a bit on a former board; some viewed it as an affront to God (quoting the bible) and insisted they were 'mentally ill' and curable. Others pulled the evolutionary card
insisting it couldn't be normal because it would obviously be detrimental in terms of continuation of a species.
Neither the APA nor AMA classify homosexuality as 'abnormal'. My view is that these are the people with all the initials after their name
and years of study and clinical research are a bit more knowledgeable than the rest of us. I wouldn't put much stock in my auto mechanics
advice for a physical illness.
It is a preference; since they are as yet unable to identify the exact variables that will, without fail, result in a heterosexual 'normal' adult, then they cannot define what is abnormal.
People are entitled to their own opinion of course, but I have never understood the rage and vehemence of some homophobes regarding a behavior that for most occurs behind closed doors, and does not affect them.
I dislike public displays of couples going at it regardless of whether they are hetero or homosexual. Most of the gays I have met in the workplace are every bit as responsible, intelligent and hard working as anyone else.
Defining the actions a small percentage of a group as indicative of the group as a whole is absurd. That's like saying "Some doctors are quacks; therefore ALL doctors are quacks."
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