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Newscaster
07-11-2006, 08:19 PM
We all have choices to make in our lives. Sometimes we make the right choice and sometimes we dont. Read this and decide honestly which choice you would have made had it been up to you.

At a fundraising dinner for a school that serves learning disabled children, the father of one of the students delivered a speech that would never be forgotten by all who attended. After extolling the school and its dedicated staff, he offered a question: "When not interfered with by outside influences, everything nature does is
done with perfection. Yet my son, Shay, cannot learn things as other children do. He cannot understand things as other children do.Â*Â*Where is the natural order of things in my son?"Â*Â*The audience was stilled by the query.

The father continued. "I believe, that when a child like Shay, physically and mentally handicapped comes into the world, an opportunity to realize true human nature presents itself, and it comes, in the way other people treat that child.Â*Â*"Then he told the following story:

Shay and his father had walked past a park where some boys Shay knew were playing baseball. Shay asked, "Do you think they'll let me play?"Â*Â*Shay's father knew that most of the boys would not want someone like Shay on their team, but the father also understood that if his son were allowed to play, it would give him a much-needed sense of belonging and some confidence to be accepted by others in spite of his handicaps.

Shay's father approached one of the boys on the field and asked if Shay could play, not expecting much. The boy looked around for guidance and said, "We're losing by six runs and the game is in the eighth inning. I guess he can be on our team and we'll try to put him in to bat in the ninth inning."Â*Â*Shay struggled over to the team's bench put on a team shirt with a broad smile and his Father had a small tear in his eye and warmth in his heart. The boys saw the father's joy at his son being accepted.

In the bottom of the eighth inning, Shay's team scored a few runs but was still behind by three. In the top of the ninth inning, Shay put on a glove and played in the right field. Even though no hits came his way, he was obviously ecstatic just to be in the game and on the field, grinning from ear to ear as his father waved to him from the stands.Â*Â*

In the bottom of the ninth inning, Shay's team scored again. Now, with two outs and the bases loaded, the potential winning run was on base and Shay was scheduled to be next at bat.Â*Â*At this juncture, do they let Shay bat and give away their chance to win the game? Surprisingly, Shay was given the bat. Everyone knew that a hit was all but impossible 'cause Shay didn't even know how to hold the bat properly, much less connect with the ball.

However, as Shay stepped up to the plate, the pitcher, recognizing the other team putting winning aside for this moment in Shay's life, moved in a few steps to lob the ball in softly so Shay could at least be able to make contact. The first pitch came and Shay swung clumsily and missed. The pitcher again took a few steps forward to toss the ball softly towards Shay. As the pitch came in, Shay swung at the ball and hit a slow ground ball right back to the pitcher.Â*Â*The game would now be over, but the pitcher picked up the soft grounder and could have easily thrown the ball to the first baseman. Shay would have been out and that would have been the end of the game. Instead, the pitcher threw the ball right over the head of the first baseman, out of reach of all team mates. Everyone from the stands and both teams started yelling, "Shay, run to first! Run to first!" Never in his life had Shay ever ran that far but made it to first base. He scampered down the baseline, wide-eyed and startled.Â*Â*



Everyone yelled, "Run to second, run to second!"Â*Â*Catching his breath, Shay awkwardly ran towards second, gleaming and struggling to make it to second base. By the time Shay rounded towards second base, the right fielder had the ball, the smallest guy on their team, who had a chance to be the hero for his team for the first time. He could have thrown the ball to the second-baseman for the tag, but he understood the pitcher's intentions and he too intentionally threw the ball
high and far over the third-baseman's head. Shay ran toward second base deliriously as the runners ahead of him circled the bases toward home.

All were screaming, "Shay, Shay, Shay, all the Way Shay" Shay reached second base, the opposing shortstop ran to help him and turned him in the direction of third base, and shouted, "Run to third! Shay, run to third"Â*Â*As Shay rounded third, the boys from both teams and those watching were on their feet were screaming, "Shay, run home! Shay ran to home, stepped on the plate, and was cheered as the hero who hit the "grand slam" and won the game for his team.

That day, said the father softly with tears now rolling down his face, the boys from both teams helped bring a piece of true love and humanity into this world.
Shay didn't make it to another summer and died that winter, having never forgotten being the hero and making his Father so happy and coming home and
seeing his Mother tearfully embrace her little hero of the day!Â*Â*

AND, NOW A LITTLE FOOTNOTE TO THIS STORY: We all send thousands of jokes through the e-mail without a second thought, but when it comes to sending messages about life choices, people think twice about sharing. The crude, vulgar, and often obscene pass freely through cyberspace, but public
discussion about decency is too often suppressed in our schools and workplaces.

If you're thinking about forwarding this message, chances are that you're probably sorting out the people on your address list that aren't the "appropriate" ones to receive this type of message. Well, the person who sent you this believes that we all can make a difference. We all have thousands of opportunities every single day to help realize the "natural order of things." So many seemingly trivial interactions between two people present us with a choice:Â*Â*Do we pass along a little spark of love and humanity or do we pass up that opportunity to brighten the day of those with us the least able, and leave the world a little bit colder in the process?Â*Â* A wise man once said every society is judged by how it treats it's least fortunate amongst them.

You now have two choices: 1. Delete 2. Forward

CheesyMuslim
07-12-2006, 08:02 AM
Sorry bout that,

1. Sometimes winnings losing, and losings winning.
2. The pitcher knew, and the father learnt of it.

Regards,
SirjamesofTexas

Nathan Brazil
07-12-2006, 02:10 PM
Delete, of course.

Athena
07-15-2006, 11:39 AM
Delete, of course.


Are you serious, Nathan? If you are serious this presents another question. Instead of the story being about a boy with handicaps, let us say the story is about a bully. Do we play the bully hoping he will learn to be nice, or do we reject him? You are a senior member in these forums? If you were serious about deleting, then perhaps you do not have the leadership qualities I want to follow?

Nathan Brazil
07-15-2006, 02:18 PM
It's a spamming chain mail.Â*Â*They should always be deleted.Â*Â*

I"m not a senior member in anything. I"m a poster. You want a leader, go to a bait and tackle store.

Newscaster
07-15-2006, 02:29 PM
Spam. THats not spam. It was from me to you. It did not go to three million recipients like real spam does. Nor did it ask for money or for you to do anything other than mail it out to whomsever you like.

SPAM is the crap I get everyday day from Newsmax. But the reaction of most of you to the idea of the message confirms for me my delight that I do not share political theory with you. Compassionate Conservatism, my butt.

Labrocca
07-15-2006, 02:38 PM
Great little story...very touching. I got tears all over my face. I have 4 kids myself and anyone with children and a heart should at least feel something from this touching story.

While I don't forward stuff around to friends because I ask my friends not to do that to me...I will post this on a few of my forums.

Good post and as a side note "Senior Member" is a title you get after posting a few hundred times. Don't take it too seriously. At 250 posts you will be listed as a Senior Member as well.

Nathan Brazil
07-15-2006, 02:58 PM
It's SPAM. I've gotten the same little sob story direct in my e-mail at least twice. Since I've no desire for my e-mail addresses to become part of yet another phishing list, I dump that crap immediately.

They may start as creative bits of heart rending fiction, they end up at commercial property because of the forwarding lists attached to them.

Newscaster
07-15-2006, 03:09 PM
Natahn, if someone sent you that story as spam...well, thats the way it goes. I did not post it as spam. I posted it for anyone to read or not read. If you read...well, thats the way it goes. If you didnt read it, maybe you should.

Nathan Brazil
07-16-2006, 03:18 AM
Natahn, if someone sent you that story as spam...well, thats the way it goes. I did not post it as spam. I posted it for anyone to read or not read. If you read...well, thats the way it goes.Â*Â* If you didnt read it, maybe you should.


The question at the bottom is:

"You now have two choices: 1. Delete 2. Forward"

You did nothing but copy a spam e-mail onto the board. In response to the trailing question I chose "Delete", because it's a spam e-mail posturing as a board question.

In order for me to state that I've seen the spam at least twice before, I would have had to read it to make the necessary comparison.

Your initial question was answered.

What's the problem?

Newscaster
07-16-2006, 11:27 AM
Tell me Nathan, is you index finger injured or missing. Are you capable of clicking the delete button when confronted by something you either don't want to read or have read before.

Come on Nathan, a big boy like you is surely strong enough to delete.
Stop whining.

Athena
07-16-2006, 12:52 PM
Natahn, if someone sent you that story as spam...well, thats the way it goes. I did not post it as spam. I posted it for anyone to read or not read. If you read...well, thats the way it goes.Â*Â* If you didnt read it, maybe you should.


The question at the bottom is:

"You now have two choices: 1. Delete 2. Forward"

You did nothing but copy a spam e-mail onto the board.Â*Â*In response to the trailing question I chose "Delete", because it's a spam e-mail posturing as a board question.

In order for me to state that I've seen the spam at least twice before, I would have had to read it to make the necessary comparison.Â*Â*

Your initial question was answered.Â*Â*

What's the problem?Â*Â*





I suggest he thought about what he read and thought it was worth passing on, and I agree with him. He made a better contribution to humanity by passing the story the along, than you making by arguing the value of what he did.

Nathan Brazil
07-17-2006, 02:20 AM
Tell me Nathan, is you index finger injured or missing. Are you capable of clicking the delete button when confronted by something you either don't want to read or have read before.

Come on Nathan, a big boy like you is surely strong enough to delete.
Stop whining.



Eh? You're the one that posted the spam. I answered the question. What's your problem?

Newscaster
07-17-2006, 09:55 AM
Yes, I did post it and your response was whine whine whine. I cannot understand how you missed that fact.
I believe it is all part of a general panic on the part of neocons that they are going to lose their little kingdom that they set up for themselves starting in 2000. But the nation finally is fed up with their holier than thou antics, with their total disregard for the wishes of fully half the nation and now, far more than just half. Even the religious right is well on its way toward wearing out its welcome.

So Nathan, relax, it wont hurt a bit.

Nathan Brazil
07-17-2006, 12:47 PM
Yes, I did post it and your response was whine whine whine. I cannot understand how you missed that fact.
I believe it is all part of a general panic on the part of neocons that they are going to lose their little kingdom that they set up for themselves starting in 2000. But the nation finally is fed up with their holier than thou antics, with their total disregard for the wishes of fully half the nation and now, far more than just half. Even the religious right is well on its way toward wearing out its welcome.

So Nathan, relax, it wont hurt a bit.




So, not wanting to clog my friends' e-mail inboxes with spam is indicative of a panic on the part of a political movement I'm not party to?

No wonder sensible Americans won't trust their news media.

Athena
07-22-2006, 12:50 PM
It's a spamming chain mail.Â*Â*They should always be deleted.Â*Â*

I"m not a senior member in anything.Â*Â*I"m a poster.Â*Â*You want a leader, go to a bait and tackle store.Â*Â*


In a democracy everyone should prepared for leadership.Â*Â*On another thread we are debating the value of the Statue of Liberty and Christianizing this symbol by replacing her torch with a cross.Â*Â*Christians favor authority over the people, and democracy favors individuals being there own authority.Â*Â*This would include reading inspirational stories and expanding our consciousness, and therefore, our conscience.Â*Â*Our Declaration of Independence is a declaration of responsibility.Â*Â*We need to think about more than ourselves.Â*Â*Â*Â*

The question was deeper than your answer. The US culture didn't always put winning over all other human considerations.

Labrocca
07-22-2006, 03:18 PM
Christians favor authority over the people, and democracy favors individuals being there own authority. This would include reading inspirational stories and expanding our consciousness, and therefore, our conscience. Our Declaration of Independence is a declaration of responsibility. We need to think about more than ourselves.


I am gonna go off topic to rebuttle this.

For one you say that democracy favors individuals being their own authority...but then you say we need to think for more than ourselves. Which is it? Because if I am thinking of another persons good...wouldn't I need to have some authority over that person to implement that good?

And you say we need to expand our consciousness and read inspirational stories. What if I don't want to? Would you use authority over me and force me to?

Feel free to start a thread and copy these few posts if you want to continue this.

Newscaster
07-22-2006, 04:13 PM
I can't believe you are still sniping at each other over my original post. For God's Sake, if you dont want to read it, delete it. If you want to read it, read it and if you will to pass it along to someone else, you are perfectly free to do that too.

And for you to argue over it time and time again, should convince you that your message, whatever it may be, is not getting across.

For God's sake, give it a rest.

Athena
07-24-2006, 12:34 PM
Natahn, if someone sent you that story as spam...well, thats the way it goes. I did not post it as spam. I posted it for anyone to read or not read. If you read...well, thats the way it goes.Â*Â* If you didnt read it, maybe you should.


The question at the bottom is:

"You now have two choices: 1. Delete 2. Forward"

You did nothing but copy a spam e-mail onto the board.Â*Â*In response to the trailing question I chose "Delete", because it's a spam e-mail posturing as a board question.

In order for me to state that I've seen the spam at least twice before, I would have had to read it to make the necessary comparison.Â*Â*

Your initial question was answered.Â*Â*

What's the problem?Â*Â*





I think the problem could be a very narrow mind. It is like bigger concepts just don't fit into the space.

Newscaster
07-24-2006, 02:42 PM
Athena, some people here cannot hear themselves think. This is because th wind whistling thru that huge empty space between their ears is too loud. And they have nothing to stuff in the gap.

CheesyMuslim
07-24-2006, 04:12 PM
Sorry bout that,

1. But some worn out newscasters have nothing to argue about so they argue for weeks about nothing.
2. Just to hear themselves pontificate about pretty much nothing.
3. GET ON WITH IT!!!!
4. Debate something important or shut the hell up!
5. Just came to my attention Newscaster guy needed that, sorry folks.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas