Gingrich: 80% chance Clinton will win in '08

[AlonzoMourning23]

(CNN)–Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said it was legislation co-authored by a current candidate in the GOP presidential race, that prevented him from continuing to run his own political action committee, American Solution, and opening a presidential exploratory committee.

"Yesterday morning we learned from our attorneys that under the McCain-Feingold law, it is a criminal penalty if I had retained any communication with American Solutions. I could go to jail," Gingrich said Sunday in an interview with ABC's George Stephanopoulos. "And the idea that you're on the turn of the dime kill this program in order to obey the McCain-Feingold Act which I think is an unconstitutional, frankly destructive bill, was crazy. And I just said if we have to choose, then it's irresponsible to not finish building up American Solutions."

Gingrich was referring to the 2002 piece of legislation authored by Sen. John McCain, R-Arizona, a current candidate for the GOP presidential nomination, and Sen. Russell Feingold, D-Wisconsin, that regulates the financing of political campaigns.

Gingrich said his party does face a tough road in its quest to re-capture the White House. "I think the odds are 80 per cent that Sen. Clinton is the next president; I think she is almost certainly going to win the Democratic nomination," he said of Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-New York. "And I think unless the Republicans can find a way to represent real change for the current situation in Washington, unless they can convince the American people they represent fundamental change, I think they'll have a very hard time."

On the current field of GOP candidates, Mr. Gingrich said he found them all to be "hardworking, smart people." He said he would hold off on endorsing any particular candidate until after the Republican National Convention next summer in Minneapolis.



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[Cobra]

That's good odds. I would have guessed lower. Maybe 60% or 55%.

[bobbylien]

Duh. I'm going to win 100$ when Clinton wins the election.. woot!

[micfranklin]

I'm pretty sure she's clinched the vote for the Dems, unless she suggests something really dumb.

[Labrocca]

I think a Clinton-Obama ticket would clinch the win. They get 2 demographics locked in and Obama has proved his worthiness for campaigning. The GOP doesn't have a solid front-runner and if it's Rudy vs Hillary...I can't see Rudy winning.

[lily]

I'd like to see Richardson in the VP slot.[/u]

[preservanation]

I'd like to see Richardson in the VP slot.[/u]
I think you're right on with the Richardson VP.
He's Hispanic, big plus, even though race doesn't matter....It does.
Also, he is somewhat of a milquetoast, and won't overshadow Hillary.
She is not going to let a strong charismatic man overshadow her as she has done all her life.
It is her turn and she will refuse to share it with anyone else.
He is a good choice.

[micfranklin]

I think a Clinton-Obama ticket would clinch the win. They get 2 demographics locked in and Obama has proved his worthiness for campaigning. The GOP doesn't have a solid front-runner and if it's Rudy vs Hillary...I can't see Rudy winning.


If it ends up being a Clinton-Obama ticket, then I can only pray to God that Obama straightens up and eats her alive.

As for Rudy, I'm further disappointed in him.

[Cobra]

I'd like to see Richardson in the VP slot.[/u]

It would give her the hispanic vote. She can get the black vote on her own without Obama I'd bet.

[preservanation]

Blacks historically vote 70-80% Dem.
That won't change much, even if it is Hillary.

[lily]

He's Hispanic, big plus, even though race doesn't matter....It does.

I agree. No matter how much they want to say it doesn't matter....it really does. It's also the reason I don't think Obama will get the nomination or the VP spot. It's going to be hard enough if a woman gets elected........it will be even harder for a woman and a black man.

Also, he is somewhat of a milquetoast, and won't overshadow Hillary.
She is not going to let a strong charismatic man overshadow her as she has done all her life.
It is her turn and she will refuse to share it with anyone else.
He is a good choice.

Again, I also agree. With both of their backgrounds and experience it would be a good ticket. You're also spot on with the milquetoast description. If he wasn't so quiet, I think he'd be more noticed on his abilities. He also doesn't come across good on camera and no matter how many people say that doesn't matter.....in this day and age it does. All you have to do is remember the Nixon/Kennedy debates and think of how badly Nixon came off, sweating and nervous looking. It cost him.

[preservanation]

On political strategy, we agree, lily.
You and I see things that way.
It is just our basic ideology that we are at odds on.
I love your insights to the processes.
The end result is what I and you will knock heads about.[hr]Now that Gingie is out who do you think we will nominate, and who has the best chance of winning? (might not be the same)

[lily]

The end result is what I and you will knock heads about.[

No doubt about it and I'm looking forward to it.


Now that Gingie is out who do you think we will nominate, and who has the best chance of winning? (might not be the same)

The way things are looking right now, I'd have to say Rudy will get the nomination.

McCain has the best chance of winning. He's got the intelligence, experience, he can work in a bi-parisan way and most important.......he really wants it. I think the others are just there to be running. If they get it, they will be thrilled, it wil be another notch on their belt....... but deep down, didn't really work for it on the issues and down home campaigning.

[preservanation]

No Way McCain will win either in the Primaries or General.
Conservatives, who still are the base, have very entrenched neg opinions of him. Campaign Finance Reform not being the least of which.
We are elephants and don't forget.

[Buck Laser]

I think a Clinton-Obama ticket would clinch the win. They get 2 demographics locked in and Obama has proved his worthiness for campaigning. The GOP doesn't have a solid front-runner and if it's Rudy vs Hillary...I can't see Rudy winning.

I could live fairly comfortably with a Clinton-Obama ticket, but given my druthers, I'd go for a Gore-Obama ticket. I've been backing Obama since February, when he spoke in Austin. I have some misgivings about his inexperience, but none about his capabilities.

There are an awful lot of wild claims being made about Clinton--that she's a socialist, or part of some cabal, or involved in a serious mysterious deaths--all of which bespeak the fear republicans feel about her candidacy.

I don't much care for Clinton's "weathervaning," and I think that, as Alan Greenspan said about Bill, she's likely to turn out to be a fine republican president. But she is first and foremost a person of awesome intellect, and can speak rationally on any issue or subject. We could do worse.

[preservanation]

"My Mind Is Jello" -Hillary Clinton, Whitewater Congressional Testimony
Yup, smartest woman in the world, no doubt.
Hooo Boy.

[Buck Laser]

"My Mind Is Jello" -Hillary Clinton, Whitewater Congressional Testimony
Yup, smartest woman in the world, no doubt.
Hooo Boy.

Is that just a smartass comment, or does it refer to some tangible evidence of Senator Clinton's intellect, or lack thereof?

[micfranklin]

"My Mind Is Jello" -Hillary Clinton, Whitewater Congressional Testimony
Yup, smartest woman in the world, no doubt.
Hooo Boy.


????

[AnnEsthesia]

"More than two decades later, it is hard to imagine the Revolutionary War coming out any other way." --George W. Bush, Martinsburg, W. Va., July 4, 2007

[ViolaLee]

"My Mind Is Jello" -Hillary Clinton, Whitewater Congressional Testimony
Yup, smartest woman in the world, no doubt.
Hooo Boy.


Do you have a credible link that proves she really said that? I googled it and can only find right wing blogs that say it. I can't find anything credible. I've never heard it before.

True, I don't read right wing blogs. And most of the things that the righties post that I've never heard before only source out at right wing blogs and no where else.

Can you prove she said that?

[preservanation]

"My Mind Is Jello" -Hillary Clinton, Whitewater Congressional Testimony
Yup, smartest woman in the world, no doubt.
Hooo Boy.

Is that just a smartass comment, or does it refer to some tangible evidence of Senator Clinton's intellect, or lack thereof?

No, the evidence that she isn't that smart is that Bill had multiple affairs right under her nose.
She couldn't "recall" much of anything at the Whitewater hearings.
Hillary lost the all important billing records for three years.
Until they showed up mysteriously on a table in the White House.
The fact that she didn't know that her largest donor Hsu, was a wanted fugitive for violating election law, does not speak well of her intellect.
I will post more examples as they come to me.

So, you have two explanations for this, either she is a liar or just plain stupid.
My inkling is that she is both.

[Buck Laser]

"My Mind Is Jello" -Hillary Clinton, Whitewater Congressional Testimony
Yup, smartest woman in the world, no doubt.
Hooo Boy.

Is that just a smartass comment, or does it refer to some tangible evidence of Senator Clinton's intellect, or lack thereof?

No, the evidence that she isn't that smart is that Bill had multiple affairs right under her nose.
So, you have two explanations for this, either she is a liar or just plain stupid.
My inkling is that she is both.

I am truly surprised that you'd disagree so completely with your idol, Newt. As to tolerating marital infidelity, I hardly think that's a sign of lack of intellect. And her memory is considerably better than our late and unlamented former AG.

You're just letting your personal dislike get in the way. I admit that my intense dislike of Newt colors my own thinking, but even though he's a proven sleazeball, he's a SMART sleazeball. Maybe you should learn a little critical thinking, instead of just parroting right wing talking points.

And by the way, Senator Clinton isn't MY choice for the democratic nominatiion.

[preservanation]

It's not tolerating, on Hillary's part (though I think it was just to get to where she wanted to go...not very feminist btw) but she constantly says she didn't know.

And by the way, it doesn't matter what your choice for the Dem nomination is, Hillary will be it.
The threat of the DNC to take away delegates from FLA if the Dem party there insists on moving up the primary date will further cement the nomination for her. She has a thirty point lead there and this will prevent any of the other dem candidates from launching any sort of campaign against her.
Let the coronation begin!
Cue trumpet fanfare....
toot.

[namguy]

That's good odds. I would have guessed lower. Maybe 60% or 55%.


I heard Clinton will win...I heard, that doesn't hold much.

[preservanation]

Clinton's negatives are up over 50 %
There has never been a candidate anywhere near that level, and the Dems are worried.
Also they are concerned about the sexism of their own party and fear that dems and lib independents will not vote for a women.

This is all applesauce when it comes to the general election. Her being female, for Republicans is not the issue, it is for Dems, though.

The question is "will Americans vote for a socialist?"
This is the $64,000 question.

[Elrathin]

The question is "will Americans vote for a socialist?"
This is the $64,000 question.


Yes they will. Because no matter who they vote for, that person is not going to get rid of medicare/medicade, welfare, WIC, and Social Security which are all socialist programs. So the person they vote for will be a socialist.

So yeah, Americans will vote for a socialist.

[preservanation]

Ah, but will Hillary make it worse?
IMHO, Yes.
50% of the people polled think so too.
Good luck with that

[firefox]

What if I vote for Ron Paul?

[Elrathin]

What if I vote for Ron Paul?


Is Ron Paul getting rid of SS, WIC, Welfare, and Medicare/Medicade? If not, you are voting for a socialist too.

[preservanation]

Creating these programs is a lot easier than taking them away. That never happens.
Let's stem the tide.

[Elrathin]

Creating these programs is a lot easier than taking them away. That never happens.
Let's stem the tide.


Republicans never try. You guys are all against socialist programs (Or so you keep telling us that conservatives are not socialists), stand by your values and standards. Tell your leaders to run on the platform to get rid of all those damn liberal socialist programs.

There is only 1 reason none of your leaders will try to get rid of all those damn liberal socialist programs and run on that platform to get elected.

#1. They know they won't get elected, which that makes them phonies and frauds without balls. OR

#2. They actually support those programs and are therefore socialists.

Take your pick. And I am actually betting on #2 because once they are elected, they STILL don't try and get rid of those programs.

[preservanation]

I know, and I'm afraid that if we don't get a revolution in the GOP, like we did in 94, either a third party will emerge to represent disenfranchised conservatives or a real revolution will ensue.
I think the GOP is salvageable and is the best defence against the socialist tide of Lib Dems.
Republicans ignore their conservative base at their own peril, though.

[Elrathin]

I know, and I'm afraid that if we don't get a revolution in the GOP, like we did in 94, either a third party will emerge to represent disenfranchised conservatives or a real revolution will ensue.

Look on the bright side, maybe you guys can sack the religious whackos in your GOP and actually get a viable third party going unlike the disenfranchised Dems. There is a reason why I am an independent voter.

I kid you guys about fearing Hillary, but really, without Obama there as a compliment for her, I don't think I will vote for Hillary unless she has some serious "Wow" factors that she brings to the table. The whole Clinton/Bush legacy thing is kinda getting to me at the moment.

[preservanation]

Nice thoughts, but IMO Hillary has already been coronated by the media and special interests to be the Dem nominee.
Especially if the DNC denies funds to Fla. to run another candidate there. She has a 30 pt lead and if no one can mount a campaign against her there she is a shoe-in.
Every vote count?
Well...not in this case.