More proof of how the Clintons control the media.

[preservanation]

I have been bringing this to your attention for ages. Hillary believes, just as socialists know, "those who control the media controls the population"GQ representatives have confirmed that they killed a planned story on the Clinton campaign, though they refuse to comment on their reasons. Clinton campaign officials declined to comment on the incident, and communications director Howard Wolfson said the campaign would not discuss its overall relationship with the press.

Clinton, D-N.Y., is running perhaps the most media-controlled -- and media-obsessed -- campaign in presidential history. Her aides carefully screen access to the candidate, generally avoid news conferences on the campaign trail and have been known to throw around the Clintons' considerable weight to block negative stories and influence coverage of the candidate they're protecting and promoting. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3648738&page=1
“I don’t really get into the inner workings of the magazine, but I can tell you that yes, we did kill a Hillary piece. We kill pieces all the time for a variety of reasons,” Nelson said in an e-mail to Politico.

He did not respond to follow-up questions. A Clinton campaign spokesman declined to comment. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0907/5992.html

I figured I would bring this to your attention, because the story of the GQ story being spiked...is soon to be spiked.
Threats, blackmail and strong arming is the way Clintons do things. These are not the people we want back in office. No Way.


I ask you this, does this worry you or do you think it's acceptable for those who claim to bring us the most open and ethical administration in history quash stories and sanitize info?
Orwellian, at best.
Stalinist at worst.

[Jaaaman]

Scary, isn't it... :scared:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h3G-lMZxjo

[preservanation]

Hillary wrote in "Living History"
“My senior year at Wellesley would further test and articulate my beliefs. For my thesis I analyzed the work of a Chicago native and community organizer named Saul Alinsky…I agreed with some of Alinsky’s ideas…but we had a fundamental disagreement. (Alinsky) believed you could change the system only from the outside. I didn’t.…my decision (to go to law school instead of training as an Alinsky organizer) was an expression of my belief that the system could be changed from within.” Hillary goes on “A radical is one who advocates sweeping changes in the existing laws and methods of government. These proposed changes are aimed at the roots of political problems which in Marxian terms are the attitudes and the behaviors of men.” Hillary explains further “A primary reason for the obsolescence of (Alinsky’s) power/conflict model is that the unit to which it applies, the territorially-defined community, is no longer a workable societal unit. … Accompanying the decline of the traditional neighborhood as a living unit were the massive centralization of power on the federal level and the growth of the suburbs. Federal centralization reduced local and state power… (For those of you not familiar with Alinsky...Saul Alinsky (1909-1972) was one of the nation’s foremost community organizers, publishing several books and creating organizations which continue today.and he wrote such gems as...Alinsky told Playboy, “I knew plenty of Communists in those days, and I worked with them on a number of projects. Back in the Thirties, the Communists did a hell of a lot of good work…. Anybody who tells you he was active in progressive causes in those days and never worked with the Reds is a goddamn liar... I was in charge of a big part of fund raising for the International Brigade and in that capacity I worked in close alliance with the Communist Party. http://www.againsthillary.com/2007/08/21/hillary-clintons-socialist-plans-there-is-only-the-fight/

This is an awesome site and anyone even considering voting for Hillary should visit it!

http://www.hillaryclintonquotes.com/socialist.html

Here are some samples..."We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."

"I certainly think the free-market has failed."

"It's time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the few, by the few, and for the few...... And to replace it with shared responsibility for shared prosperity."

"(We) ....can't just let business as usual go on, and that means something has to be taken away from some people."

"We have to build a political consensus and that requires people to give up a little bit of their own turf in order to create this common ground."


"I think it's time to send a clear message to what has become the most profitable sector in (the) entire economy that they are being watched."
Put these Hillary quotes next to The Communist Manifesto, and they fit like a template!
People say conservatives are scared of this woman?
Yes we are, VERY,VERY scared,
and for good reason.
All Americans who wish to preserve their freedom should be too.

If this isn't enough, go to http://www.hillaryclintonquotes.com/socialist.html
and see more like this...
"I'm not going to have some reporters pawing through our papers. We are the president." "Let's not leave an educational vacuum to be filled by religious extremists who go to families who have no other option and offer meals, housing and some form of education. If we are going to combat extremism then we must educate those very same children." "We must stop thinking of the individual and start thinking about what is best for society."
And my favorite display of liberal projection.. "The American people are tired of liars and people who pretend to be something they're not."This woman is delusional if she does not think she suffers from projection and the pot-calling-the-kettle-blackism.
Hoooo Boy,
What a crock!

Scared? Yes.
Know the truth and you will be too

[Alonzo]

Hillary believes, just as socialists know, "those who control the media controls the population"

everyone knows that.

my decision (to go to law school instead of training as an Alinsky organizer) was an expression of my belief that the system could be changed from within.”

OMG! She wants change! Radical bitch!

I don't see the issue here.

[preservanation]

Hillary's point was that being upfront about her socialist views will be rejected by the American people. She believes in order to communize this nation she must do it with "stealth" and lies, from within.
Guess what...it's working on you!
Hillary was right.
Congratulations on being duped.
You must be very proud.

[Truth_and_Power]

Run! Hillary is going to feed the children!!

[Elrathin]

Hillary's point was that being upfront about her socialist views will be rejected by the American people. She believes in order to communize this nation she must do it with "stealth" and lies, from within.
Guess what...it's working on you!
Hillary was right.
Congratulations on being duped.
You must be very proud.


Are any Republican/Independent candidates running on the platform to get rid of Social Security or Medicare/Medicade? If not, you are going to be voting for a socialist unless you don't vote at all.

[preservanation]

Run! Hillary is going to feed the children!!
Feed them a bunch of lib elitist communist clap trap...

This will end up harming our children and nation much more than helping.
This I believe and the history of mankind supports this belief.
To do this she must shred the ideals and principals upon which this great nation was founded.
Sorry, as a conservative and originalist, I can not abide this.

[Alonzo]

Hillary's point was that being upfront about her socialist views will be rejected by the American people. She believes in order to communize this nation she must do it with "stealth" and lies, from within.
Guess what...it's working on you!
Hillary was right.
Congratulations on being duped.
You must be very proud.


The paranoia is overwhelming. So do you think she's Stalin light or something?

[AnnEsthesia]

Much better to waste our money making war instead of feeding children and getting them health care.

[Elrathin]

I can understand people being against universal health care because of the costs, but to try and say a poor family is better off with NO health care rather than universal health care makes no sense whatsoever.

[AlanC]

Fighting wars to preserve the nation or eliminate threats to its citizens is a function of central government.

Feeding your children and getting them health care is the function of parents.

Social Security is a boondoggle that is unlikely to even be there in 10 years. Name one program that is a fraction as massive as the health care proposals that is being run effectively by government.

What in the world makes you think government is going to be able to manage your health? They already run the clinics and hospitals that care for the poor. They run the veterans hospital system. They regulate the pharmacutical industry. What in your wildest imaginings leads you to believe that they can handle the entire health industry for the whole country without screwing it up entirely?

[AnnEsthesia]

Then I guess it would be ok for us to get rid of health care for the elderly, right? After all, their kids should take care of them.

[Marley]

So do you think she's Stalin light or something?

No, just plain Stalin.

Seriously.

You stumbled on it, like the stopped clock right twice a day.

Just how exactly would one "get rid of" health care for the elderly?

Outlaw it? Like gambling, prostitution, etc?

[Truth_and_Power]

Fighting wars to preserve the nation or eliminate threats to its citizens is a function of central government.

Feeding your children and getting them health care is the function of parents.

Social Security is a boondoggle that is unlikely to even be there in 10 years. Name one program that is a fraction as massive as the health care proposals that is being run effectively by government.

What in the world makes you think government is going to be able to manage your health? They already run the clinics and hospitals that care for the poor. They run the veterans hospital system. They regulate the pharmacutical industry. What in your wildest imaginings leads you to believe that they can handle the entire health industry for the whole country without screwing it up entirely?


Citing the regulation of the pharmaceutical industry is an argument AGAINST private healthcare. That is an example of a PRIVATE system that sucks, not a PUBLIC system that sucks. And don't try to sell me the idea that if it wasnt regulated it would be fine and dandy. Because then the only recourse would be lawsuits, which you will also try to tell me are part of the problem I bet. You can't have it both ways.

And anyway, no one is talking about the government running all the hospitals, only the payment. So you'd give up private insurance regulated by the gov't (like pharma) and get a government payment plan.

[Labrocca]

Well the people hoping for Hillary to win are mostly comfortable with socialism anyways. We defeated communist USSR in the cold war and people have quickly forgotten what communism means. Socialists have slowly been taking over the Democrats one election at a time. Of course the neocons and religion right have a strong hold on the GOP. It's just a polarization of our nation. It's very dangerous. We need some middle candidates but the laws have been changed so that third party candidates suffer from lack of funding.

I am not outright scared if Hillary wins. Her husband wasn't the worst president (and don't freaking reply about Bush). We still have congress. Maybe we can create some gridlock with Hillary in the white house and get a GOP senate/house to create the gridlock that prevents both parties from screwing us. It worked for us with Bill.

[ViolaLee]

....We still have congress. Maybe we can create some gridlock with Hillary in the white house and get a GOP senate/house to create the gridlock that prevents both parties from screwing us. It worked for us with Bill.
Maybe after the first two years ;) On January 20, 2009 we will have a democratic president, a democratic house and a democratic senate. I think we'll see some changes for the better. ;)

[exigent]

They regulate the pharmacutical industry. What in your wildest imaginings leads you to believe that they can handle the entire health industry for the whole country without screwing it up entirely?


BWAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHA!!! nice one!

What else to they handle? Hmmm...DOD does a nice efficient job, does it not? Government run national security.

[preservanation]

Hillary's point was that being upfront about her socialist views will be rejected by the American people. She believes in order to communize this nation she must do it with "stealth" and lies, from within.
Guess what...it's working on you!
Hillary was right.
Congratulations on being duped.
You must be very proud.


The paranoia is overwhelming. So do you think she's Stalin light or something?
Freedom and democracy requires open eyes, yours are glued shut by years of sleep as a lib.
Socialism will succeed only when you let it happen by your own blindness and selfishness. Taking away an individuals right to achieve on their own and giving the power to do so to the politicians in Washington, is a gutless and dangerous choice you will ultimately regret.
Hillary is a socialist and has been for decades.
Read her quotes I posted and see if you still disagree.

[Elrathin]

Socialism will succeed only when you let it happen by your own blindness and selfishness. Taking away an individuals right to achieve on their own and giving the power to do so to the politicians in Washington, is a gutless and dangerous choice you will ultimately regret.
Hillary is a socialist and has been for decades.
Read her quotes I posted and see if you still disagree.


So what are your thoughts about Republicans not doing away with MEdicare/Medicade and Social Security. That is socialism and I believe you said you either support socialism or you don't. So your candidates are running on platforms of socialism as well.

Are you just not going to vote then? After all, if they support social programs such as the ones I said, they are socialists are they not?

[preservanation]

I agreed with the attempt to privatise social security. Vehemently opposed by every Dem on the Hill.
Medicare and Medicaid are obviously socialism brought about by libs, and voted in by gutless and pandering politicians who have no real understanding of what our Constitution is or what it stands for.

Your statement bolsters my point that once the gov gets a hold of something they will NEVER let go.
Think about that as you pull the lever in Nov.

[Elrathin]

Yes, but you are voting in Republicans that have NO INTENTION of changing it. That is supporting socialism.

[preservanation]

I agree to some extent and that is why most people who know me would categorize me as a libertarian (which in not incongruous of conservatism, or true liberalism for that matter).
I vote Republican over Dem because the dems are outspoken socialists, I oppose that. There is no such thing as as a conservative Dem any more ask Zell Miller or the former JFK, if you could. Hell, Lieberman (a screaming social lib) was thrown out into traffic by the dems because he ran afoul of one issue, Iraq. The "Big Tent" has shrunk to a "Shower Cap".
A vote for a Libertarian candidate, whomever, would support the dems.
I can not abide that.
I have a feeling that the Republican Party is salvageable and if enough conservatives stand up and demand more (or less, lol) from the GOP we can turn that ship around.
Nothing within my control will prevent me from voting GOP in Nov.
But I think most people have gleaned that fact already!

[Alonzo]

How can a libertarian be a social conservative pres?

[preservanation]

I hesitate to get into this discussion with you because of your bigoted definitions of "social conservatives". Libertarianism is a big tent IMO too big. Maybe I should have said that I have "libertarian tendencies" that may be more accurate. Hence, I vote Republican.
I can only speak for myself and refuse to get into the mud with you, sorry.
If you see this as a dodge, it is.[hr]I'll apologize for "bigoted" poor choice of words.
I'll amend that to "biased".
Sorry.