How Republicans feel about Universal Health Care...

[Deadshot]

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[firefox]

To me, government controlled health insurance is worse than no insurance at all. What is it's success record so far? Pretty close to 0% effectiveness, so why would THIS program be any different? Also, what if someone doesn't want state sponsored "care", or needs something that that program won't provide? In such a situation, going elsewhere would become very expensive, if not impossible. History proves that each and every government program that has existed anywhere has become extremely conservative, and unable/unwilling to change in order to meet new realities. Meanwhile, private non and for profit entities are directly responsible to their customers, and those that do not make the grade go out of business.

[Truth_and_Power]

To me, government controlled health insurance is worse than no insurance at all. What is it's success record so far? Pretty close to 0% effectiveness, so why would THIS program be any different? Also, what if someone doesn't want state sponsored "care", or needs something that that program won't provide? In such a situation, going elsewhere would become very expensive, if not impossible. History proves that each and every government program that has existed anywhere has become extremely conservative, and unable/unwilling to change in order to meet new realities. Meanwhile, private non and for profit entities are directly responsible to their customers, and those that do not make the grade go out of business.


Was it your intent to string together a series of unprovable, even laughable statements, and call it a paragraph?

Lets see, there's the I'd rather die than have the government pay for my healthcare.. there's the 0% success rate of all government healthcare programs throughout history.. all government programs become 'conservative' whatever that means.. Are we laughing yet?

I guess you have a point about bureaucracy being resistant to change, but the idea that private corporations don't grow bureaucracies of their own is well.. laughable, especially in the arena of healthcare.

Please, come back with something better than that load of garbage.

[preservanation]

I agree with firefox. When you grant a gov the power to provide something for you they also have the power to take it away.
One day you have your heart medicine the next day the bureaucrats in Washington decide you don't due to budget cuts, it's raining, it's Tuesday...whatever.
Don't fall for this folks.
We already have our version of socialised health care it's called medicare and medicaid.
Those programs work so well, all people can do is complain about them and now we need to make the process "universal".
Geeee, good call.

Hillary care credo, "If it's not broke, break it"
Firefox is right, more gov is never the answer, just the opposite.

[Elrathin]

To me, government controlled health insurance is worse than no insurance at all. What is it's success record so far?


Say what you will about the cost (That part is debatable), but not having any insurance at all is worse than having something. I'm guessing you have insurance either through your own accord or your work.

Try talking to a poor 4 person family with no insurance and then tell them their better off not having any at all and see what their response is.

In fact please tell any Republican Candidate that they should say "Having no insurance is better than having some insurance". It will GUARANTEE a Dem victory.

[Truth_and_Power]

I agree with firefox. When you grant a gov the power to provide something for you they also have the power to take it away.
One day you have your heart medicine the next day the bureaucrats in Washington decide you don't due to budget cuts, it's raining, it's Tuesday...whatever.
Don't fall for this folks.
We already have our version of socialised health care it's called medicare and medicaid.
Those programs work so well, all people can do is complain about them and now we need to make the process "universal".


Insurance companies also do their fair share of "taking it away". Of course multi-billion dollar companies are extremely responsive to my needs and would never disallow a medication that i want or need because they are worried about the bottom line (laugh). Atleast the government is accountable to voters.. insurance companies are accountable only to stockholders. I think we all know that the best way to cut costs when you're an insurance company is to deny claims.

The people I've known who have had to use medicare/aid have been thankful to have had it. The only people I have heard whining about the programs are public officials, GAO and the like, and republicans. None of the above are actually using the program.

[preservanation]

Once this program in place, all the votes in the world will never take it away.
The gov doesn't ever work like that.
Insurance company rates are out of control, mostly due to people who feel bad if they can't go in for every hangnail. I'm paying for it, so I'm going to use it no matter what. This started with HMOs, an outgrowth of Hillary's first stab at socialised medicine in the 90's. The other main cause of high insurance rates are caused by the trial lawyers like Edwards who drive up malpractice insurance and the cost is passed on to the consumer.
Also R and D is costly but worth it. Look at all the life-saving miracle drugs on the market. If Gov took over all that would disappear in a mountain of red tape bureaucracy. The cost and our taxes will inevitably go up, up, up and the quality of care and availability of quality drugs will go down, down, down.