Athena
07-05-2006, 12:38 PM
We can not really discuss democracy without a political philsophy forum.
Please, respond to what I am saying.
Let me explain why good manners are more important than laws.
The last post I attempted to make to this forum did not get posted and there was no explanation of why it didn't get posted. That kind of behavior destroys individual liberty and power, and prevents freedom of speech. Only if you had communicated with me about why it was not posted, could I have taken the steps to make the post acceptable. I am not denying you the right to making decisions regarding your forums, but I am saying we must know the reasoning of your decisions, or we are stripped of our personal liberty and power. Democracy depends on good manners, and good manners demands a reply to communications.
Now here is another political post I would like to make, and there is no place to put it.
H.G. Wells
http://www.online-literature.com/wellshg/newmachiavelli/1/
The state-making dream is a very old dream indeed in the world's history. It plays too small a part in novels. Plato and Confucius are but the highest of a great host of minds that have had a kindred aspiration, have dreamt of a world of men better ordered, happier, finer, securer. They imagined cities grown more powerful and peoples made rich and multitudinous by their efforts, they thought in terms of harbours and shining navies, great roads engineered marvellously, jungles cleared and deserts conquered, the ending of muddle and diseases and dirt and misery; the ending of confusions that waste human possibilities; they thought of these things with passion and desire as other men think of the soft lines and tender beauty of women. Thousands of men there are to-day almost mastered by this white passion of statecraft, and in nearly every one who reads and thinks you could find, I suspect, some sort of answering response. But in every one it presents itself extraordinarily entangled and mixed up with other, more intimate things.
Our democracy was an effort to have heaven on earth. Many different religious groups thought they knew best how to achieve this. The concept of democracy, learned form Athens, created a consciousness where everyone could give their dreams their best shot. Everyone includes the philosophers who also strived to create better understanding and a better world. Christianity is so dominate today, because that is all the masses of the US know. We need a forum for political philosophy to increase awareness of other ways of seeing the world besides being Christian or atheist.
We need good manners and communication if people are to have democracy- rule by reason, as opposed to autocratic rule over the people. It is through philosophy, not religion, that can discuss these things. This isn't religion, or history, or a currect events, or torrorism, or any of the other classifications you have. The classifications you have offered limit discussion is ways I don't think you intended.
Please, respond to what I am saying.
Let me explain why good manners are more important than laws.
The last post I attempted to make to this forum did not get posted and there was no explanation of why it didn't get posted. That kind of behavior destroys individual liberty and power, and prevents freedom of speech. Only if you had communicated with me about why it was not posted, could I have taken the steps to make the post acceptable. I am not denying you the right to making decisions regarding your forums, but I am saying we must know the reasoning of your decisions, or we are stripped of our personal liberty and power. Democracy depends on good manners, and good manners demands a reply to communications.
Now here is another political post I would like to make, and there is no place to put it.
H.G. Wells
http://www.online-literature.com/wellshg/newmachiavelli/1/
The state-making dream is a very old dream indeed in the world's history. It plays too small a part in novels. Plato and Confucius are but the highest of a great host of minds that have had a kindred aspiration, have dreamt of a world of men better ordered, happier, finer, securer. They imagined cities grown more powerful and peoples made rich and multitudinous by their efforts, they thought in terms of harbours and shining navies, great roads engineered marvellously, jungles cleared and deserts conquered, the ending of muddle and diseases and dirt and misery; the ending of confusions that waste human possibilities; they thought of these things with passion and desire as other men think of the soft lines and tender beauty of women. Thousands of men there are to-day almost mastered by this white passion of statecraft, and in nearly every one who reads and thinks you could find, I suspect, some sort of answering response. But in every one it presents itself extraordinarily entangled and mixed up with other, more intimate things.
Our democracy was an effort to have heaven on earth. Many different religious groups thought they knew best how to achieve this. The concept of democracy, learned form Athens, created a consciousness where everyone could give their dreams their best shot. Everyone includes the philosophers who also strived to create better understanding and a better world. Christianity is so dominate today, because that is all the masses of the US know. We need a forum for political philosophy to increase awareness of other ways of seeing the world besides being Christian or atheist.
We need good manners and communication if people are to have democracy- rule by reason, as opposed to autocratic rule over the people. It is through philosophy, not religion, that can discuss these things. This isn't religion, or history, or a currect events, or torrorism, or any of the other classifications you have. The classifications you have offered limit discussion is ways I don't think you intended.