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Asrael
09-09-2007, 10:57 PM
IF you believe in God, do you have any evidence for his/hers existence, or just have "faith" (belief in things without evidence).
If you have proof, why dont you provide such and make the rest of the world theist?
And if you got proof, do you know which one, or is it plural?
Scorpion
09-09-2007, 11:01 PM
IF you believe in God, do you have any evidence for his/hers existence, or just have "faith" (belief in things without evidence).
If you have proof, why dont you provide such and make the rest of the world theist?
And if you got proof, do you know which one, or is it plural?
I believe in God based on faith and I believe that the universe and everything in it is evidence of the existence of God.
Buck Laser
09-09-2007, 11:35 PM
I don't think belief in God is actually subject to rational proof. I'm pretty well aware of the failures of all the traditional philosophical proofs of the existence of God, and I know that none of them succeeds. Further, empirical observation of the universe (if you will, creation) makes it clear that we understand more as we observe more. Even further, I'm aware that religious experiences can be produced when certain areas of the brain are stimulated. I do not need to deny that or distance myself from any of it in order to affirm the presence of God in my life. Call it faith. Call it an assurance of my acceptance in the order of things, I believe in God.
Having grown up and aged within the Christian tradition, I find it the handiest way to give voice to my faith. But it would be arrogant of me to assume it's my way or none.
Does that answer your question?
Alonzo
09-09-2007, 11:38 PM
This should be interesting. I wonder who will scream loudest, the uber faithful or the uber atheists?
ViolaLee
09-10-2007, 01:13 AM
There is no evidence of God. There are stories from thousands of years ago that people put faith in and believe. The stories were written to explain the unexplainable.
JohnM81
09-10-2007, 01:47 AM
There is no proof that I have that I can offer you to show you God. That is why Christianity presents itself a on the stage of faith. We are completely honest about this. We proclaim our message aknowledging such can only be believed through faith.
With that said I personally have experienced proof of my faith. But sadly its nothing I can share with you being its personal experience. When I was young I was raised in a Christian family. But I questioned my faith constantly. I spoke to others and expressed my doubts of the faith I was raised in due to a lack of proof. At this young age I embarked upon a journey to find proof/evidence or to reject my faith.
I searched scriptures high and low for this. And sure there were some interesting passages in scripture that expressed certain scientific facts that man didn't know back then like the earth moved along an orbit (don't ask me why the catholics believed in a earth centered model when the bible says the earth moves along a circuit), stars emit sound (they do via radio waves), or ants are mostly female.
But this evidence to the veracity of scripture wasn't proof. Finally, I had to make a decision. Upon person reflection and seeing how belief in God shaped the lives of those whom I respected and a lack of God in other peoples lives shaped them in bad ways I chose to believe.
Upon that first step of believing I generally felt a relationship begin with a real being. Since then, I have had other experiences like dreams of bad things happening that would have come to pass if I hadn't recognized them. Again, none of this is any type of proof that I can give to you. Its proof to me because they were my experiences.
In the end, there is no proof that anyone can give you before that first faithbased step is made. In some ways, I think thats how God might just want it...
moses2792796
09-10-2007, 02:36 AM
If you have no faith at all, life is pointless...think about that before you respond. Even atheists have faith.
ViolaLee
09-10-2007, 02:56 AM
Life is not pointless without faith in God. No one knows which religion is the one and only true religion. Faith is believing in a supernatural power. If a person does not believe in the supernatural, they can still have a happy life filled with joy, laughter, love and fun. It doesn't take faith in a god to have happiness.
moses2792796
09-10-2007, 04:00 AM
Faith is believing, without knowing. Your knowledge is limited to your own thoughts, anything which you believe in outside of that is based on faith. Faith in the reality of existence as perceived by your senses, and faith in God are not so different.
jafar00
09-10-2007, 12:46 PM
I just looked out the window. Yup, there is a whole world of creation out there. Proof enough for me. :)
preservanation
09-10-2007, 12:53 PM
I just looked out the window. Yup, there is a whole world of creation out there. Proof enough for me. :)
Common ground, common ground!:thumbsup:
Deadshot
09-10-2007, 02:50 PM
I believe in God because I have faith that there is someone up there watching out for me.
I HOPE and BELIEVE I'm right and don't need to debate the evidentiary facts.
To be frank, if I'm wrong, and there is no Supreme Being or Divine Providence, then what have I really lost?
moses2792796
09-11-2007, 08:36 AM
I just looked out the window. Yup, there is a whole world of creation out there. Proof enough for me. :)
Common ground, common ground!:thumbsup:
Seems alot of people don't understand this though.
mammalicious
09-11-2007, 11:16 AM
Yes, I believe in God without proof. The questioning/problems come in with organized religion, IMO. Religion is man's attempt to control and gain for oneself through others' faith. Does God really need your money?
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