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nevadamedic
09-09-2007, 07:59 PM
I just finished watching the most recent Republican Debate on Fox News as I try to catch every Debate Republican and Democrat. What is really starting to get me is that let the top three candidates in both parties hog the Debate and we dont get to hear from the rest. I want to hear from Tancredo, Hunter, Dodd, Richardson Biden and everyone else. How in the hell can we make an informed decision if they only let the major candidates answer questions. I think it is biased and wrong. I really want to hear more from Tancredo and Dodd. I really like them both and I think they are the best choices for their parties.

Dodd is the only one with enough experience needed on the Democratic side and he represents their values the best out of all the candidates, hell I would probably even support him, after him it would be Richardson and Biden. I don't know much about Kunich or the other second tier Democrats and probably wont get to learn about them since they can never speak at Debates or Forums.

I don't always vote Republican but I do vote for who I think will be the best person for our country. I probably would vote Democrat or write in a name if either Paul, Brownback or Huckabee win the nomination or even the VP Nomination. Paul is certifiably insane, this guy is in outerspace. He is dangerous to Republicans and Democrats as he seems to only be out for himself. I also don't like his position on the War and how he shafted the Republican Party when Bill Clinton was President(I will be happy to elaborate if anyone wants) and there is only one reason I feel he is a Republican(I will elaborate if anyone wants as well). Also I think is a phoney. He and Senator Brownback have both violated campaign laws doing some pretty messed up things to Congressmen Tancredo and Hunter.

I also really like Tancredo's views on Immigration, Terrorism, Taxes, Education and Family Values and his moral stand points. He also has good ideas on interrogating known terrorists(not suspected but known)If he doesn't get the nomination I hope he get's the VP slot. He also adds humor and personality to a boring topic. I would love to see a Giuliani/Tancredo ticket.

I am also starting to like Duncan Hunter. I like a lot of his positions and I love his personality and humor as well. He just didn't seem incredibly friendly when I met him and got a photo opertunity and got to talk to him on behalf of Move America Forward. Maybe he was just having a bad day, I don't know.

I don't like Huckabee because of the Rapist Incident while he was Governor(I will be happy to expplain if anyone wants). That's enough to decide for anyone not to support him.

As far as Brownback I don't like him. He is shady and personally attacks his fellow Republicans and that shouldn't be done. I can understand Republicans and Democrats attacking eachother but Republicans shouldn't personally attack eachother and Democrats shouldn't personally attack eachother. He also has violated campaign laws along with Congressman Paul.

As far as Mitt Romney, I do like him, but he seems to be forcing his religion on people and I want to know what he said about our sildiers and his son last week, because if anyone let alone a candidate talks badly about the men and women protecting our way of life then they have lost my support and respect.

As far as Senator McCain I really like him and everything he has done for our country. He does have a lot of leadership experience and I think he would be a great President. I don't like what he did with the Immigration deal but almost everything else he has done while in office has been right on the money. He also commanded the biggest unit in the military. He also paid one of the ultimate sacrafices while in the Military, he was a POW for over 5 years and was beaten and tortured on a daily basis and he never gave up anything. If he can handle that then he can handle anything.

As far as Hillary Clinton. I would never vote for her under any circumstances. She doesn't have the expierence, she would cut our Military, she likes big Government, she is not moral and she is a mean and nasty person(I know the officer who carried the Nuclear Football for Bill Clinton and was the head of all Military units at the White House(including Airforce One, Marine One etc.). He also was Bill Clinton's top advisor for the USAF and one of his top Military Advisors. Needless to say he knows them really well and some of the things I learned was aweful and how they treated people. The funny thing is he supported the Clintons until he worked with and for them. Hillary is also big on spending and tends to cut jobs to get her friends jobs. 50% of Democrats polled said they would never vote for her under any circumstances.

As far as Obama, he doesn't have the expierence at all being that he is still in his first term in the Senate. He is also reckless with spending. He even demanded a full Secret Service Detail from day one and they arn't cheap. Don't get me wrong, I am not against candidates getting a security detail but they should have to pay for it, and trust me they can afford it. Also Democrats were polled and there was a large number that said they would not vote for him under any circumstances.

As far as John Edwards the guy is a hipocrit and definatly doesn't have the experience and is a mean and nasty person.

Now Senator Dodd is a man that I respect a lot and I think is the best choice. He has the most experience out of all the Democrats. He has strong morals, leadership skills and has done a lot for our country. He is one of the only candidates that I think could beat a Repblican as Democrats have said they wouldn't vote for Clinton or Obama under any circumstances.

The other candidates I don't know enough about to comment other then the fact that Bill Richardson and Joe Biden were really decent to me when I met them.

lily
09-09-2007, 10:29 PM
Dodd is the only one with enough experience needed on the Democratic side and he represents their values the best out of all the candidates, hell I would probably even support him, after him it would be Richardson and Biden. I don't know much about Kunich or the other second tier Democrats and probably wont get to learn about them since they can never speak at Debates or Forums.

Odd that you support Dodd......can you tell me what he stands for? The only things I know about him is he is for ending the embargo on Cuba, has called the Iraqi war a complete failure and sponsered a bill to cut off funding for the war.


As far as Mitt Romney, I do like him, but he seems to be forcing his religion on people and I want to know what he said about our sildiers and his son last week, because if anyone let alone a candidate talks badly about the men and women protecting our way of life then they have lost my support and respect.

Are you talking about the incident where someone asked him why his sons aren't serving this country and his reply was they are....they are working to make him president?

As far as Hillary Clinton. I would never vote for her under any circumstances. She doesn't have the expierence, she would cut our Military, she likes big Government, she is not moral and she is a mean and nasty person(I know the officer who carried the Nuclear Football for Bill Clinton and was the head of all Military units at the White House(including Airforce One, Marine One etc.). He also was Bill Clinton's top advisor for the USAF and one of his top Military Advisors. Needless to say he knows them really well and some of the things I learned was aweful and how they treated people. The funny thing is he supported the Clintons until he worked with and for them. Hillary is also big on spending and tends to cut jobs to get her friends jobs. 50% of Democrats polled said they would never vote for her under any circumstances.

HIllary would cut our military? I'd ask for a link, but I'm begining to know better.

You know the man that carried the nuclear football?:ponder:

As far as Obama, he doesn't have the expierence at all being that he is still in his first term in the Senate. He is also reckless with spending. He even demanded a full Secret Service Detail from day one and they arn't cheap. Don't get me wrong, I am not against candidates getting a security detail but they should have to pay for it, and trust me they can afford it. Also Democrats were polled and there was a large number that said they would not vote for him under any circumstances.

Nice try.......but it was the secret service that said he will now have a detail, since there was a threat on his life.......if you've got a like to where he demanded a full secret service detail, I'd also like to see that.....but I don't think it's coming.

nevadamedic
09-09-2007, 11:21 PM
Dodd is the only one with enough experience needed on the Democratic side and he represents their values the best out of all the candidates, hell I would probably even support him, after him it would be Richardson and Biden. I don't know much about Kunich or the other second tier Democrats and probably wont get to learn about them since they can never speak at Debates or Forums.

Odd that you support Dodd......can you tell me what he stands for? The only things I know about him is he is for ending the embargo on Cuba, has called the Iraqi war a complete failure and sponsered a bill to cut off funding for the war.

So what if he doesn't support the War, he has done a lot for this country. He has the most experience and leadership ability. He also is a very moral person.

As far as Mitt Romney, I do like him, but he seems to be forcing his religion on people and I want to know what he said about our sildiers and his son last week, because if anyone let alone a candidate talks badly about the men and women protecting our way of life then they have lost my support and respect.

Are you talking about the incident where someone asked him why his sons aren't serving this country and his reply was they are....they are working to make him president?

Yea, that was a asshole remark. I didn't know the full statement until Viola just told me and it makes me sick that someone would say something like that. If he wins the nomination I hope Dodd wins the Democratic as I will vote for him.

As far as Hillary Clinton. I would never vote for her under any circumstances. She doesn't have the expierence, she would cut our Military, she likes big Government, she is not moral and she is a mean and nasty person(I know the officer who carried the Nuclear Football for Bill Clinton and was the head of all Military units at the White House(including Airforce One, Marine One etc.). He also was Bill Clinton's top advisor for the USAF and one of his top Military Advisors. Needless to say he knows them really well and some of the things I learned was aweful and how they treated people. The funny thing is he supported the Clintons until he worked with and for them. Hillary is also big on spending and tends to cut jobs to get her friends jobs. 50% of Democrats polled said they would never vote for her under any circumstances.

HIllary would cut our military? I'd ask for a link, but I'm begining to know better.

Bill did, he reduced our military drastically.

You know the man that carried the nuclear football?:ponder:

Yes I do, LTC. Buzz Patterson. I would email one of the many pics I have with him but then they would probably end up all over the net.

As far as Obama, he doesn't have the expierence at all being that he is still in his first term in the Senate. He is also reckless with spending. He even demanded a full Secret Service Detail from day one and they arn't cheap. Don't get me wrong, I am not against candidates getting a security detail but they should have to pay for it, and trust me they can afford it. Also Democrats were polled and there was a large number that said they would not vote for him under any circumstances.

Nice try.......but it was the secret service that said he will now have a detail, since there was a threat on his life.......if you've got a like to where he demanded a full secret service detail, I'd also like to see that.....but I don't think it's coming.


Actually it wasn't. Obama asked for it and Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi approved it from the House side. There wasn't a threat on his life, there was a lot of hate posts about him on a White Supremesist website, but nothing in the form of a Death Threat or people would have been arrested. Obama over reacted and went to Senator Reid and asked for protection. Like I said im not opposed to it if they pay for it, lord knows they can afford it.

lily
09-09-2007, 11:41 PM
So what if he doesn't support the War, he has done a lot for this country. He has the most experience and leadership ability. He also is a very moral person.

Odd that you should say "so what if Dodd doesn't support the war", (when he said it was a failure and wants to de-fund it), you seem to hold higher standards to others that say the same thing........but anyhow.......are you going to answer my question.......what are Dodd's positions, what does he stand for?



Bill did, he reduced our military drastically.

Bill reduced the military during a time of peace and you think somehow that means Hillary will in time of war? That makes about as much sense as going to war with the army you have and not the army you want, or starting another war before finishing the one you started.


Yes I do, LTC. Buzz Patterson. I would email one of the many pics I have with him but then they would probably end up all over the net.

Okey dokey........in other words, if you showed me you'd have to kill me?


Actually it wasn't. Obama asked for it and Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi approved it from the House side. There wasn't a threat on his life, there was a lot of hate posts about him on a White Supremesist website, but nothing in the form of a Death Threat or people would have been arrested.

You don't think a lot of hate posts on White Supremesist's websites for the first Black to run as president isn't a threat???

Obama over reacted and went to Senator Reid and asked for protection.

::sigh:: Link.

Like I said im not opposed to it if they pay for it, lord knows they can afford it.

Hmm........ok, I'll keep that in mind while looking to see if there is secret service for all the candidates.

bobbylien
09-10-2007, 12:38 AM
Everybody cares about the top 6-8 contenders and the rest just get left out. Its all about the ratings.

ViolaLee
09-10-2007, 01:03 AM
You're wrong about Obama. He didn't demand Secret Service protection from day one as you say. He has record breaking crowds and there have been racist threats against him. His campaign asked for protection and the feds agreed right away. It was a bi-partisan decision. It's not Obama's fault that there are racist assholes in the USA. Just look at that fool Ted Nugent and his death threat against Obama and Hillary. I hope the Secret Service is investigating that racist bastard too.

"Unfortunately, some of the information we found was racially motivated. It is a sad reality in this day and age that Mr. Obama's African-American heritage is a cause for very violent and hatred, hated reactions among some people."

Durbin would not elaborate. "I've been advised not to talk about any specific security problems or any threats," he said. He also would not say how he received the information, only that it was from "credible sources."

The crowds, he said, have been record-breaking. "Naturally, it's encouraging politically, but it's also raised a lot of security concerns."

The Secret Service protection for Obama began at 1 p.m. Thursday, Durbin said.

Chertoff works with a congressional panel made up of half a dozen members of Congress, including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Reid.

The decision to present the information to the advisory board was a bipartisan one, Durbin said, with Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, a Kentucky Republican, also participating, he said.

Previously, two Democratic Senate sources told CNN that after Reid decided to take the matter to Chertoff as an advisory board issue, further discussions with the Obama campaign ensued and the official request for Secret Service protection was made.

The Secret Service said in a written statement that Chertoff, "after consultation with the congressional advisory committee, authorized the United States Secret Service to protect presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama."

Protection goes beyond surrounding the candidate with well-armed agents, the Secret Service's Web site states. The agency does extensive advance work and threat assessments developed by its intelligence division to identify potential risks, the site says. http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/05/03/obama.protection/index.html

nevadamedic
09-10-2007, 03:49 AM
So what if he doesn't support the War, he has done a lot for this country. He has the most experience and leadership ability. He also is a very moral person.

Odd that you should say "so what if Dodd doesn't support the war", (when he said it was a failure and wants to de-fund it), you seem to hold higher standards to others that say the same thing........but anyhow.......are you going to answer my question.......what are Dodd's positions, what does he stand for?

*Sign* www.chrisdodd.com

Bill did, he reduced our military drastically.

Bill reduced the military during a time of peace and you think somehow that means Hillary will in time of war? That makes about as much sense as going to war with the army you have and not the army you want, or starting another war before finishing the one you started.

Hillary has never made much sense.

Yes I do, LTC. Buzz Patterson. I would email one of the many pics I have with him but then they would probably end up all over the net.

Okey dokey........in other words, if you showed me you'd have to kill me?

No I just don't want my pictures all over the net like certain members at DP have done.

Actually it wasn't. Obama asked for it and Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi approved it from the House side. There wasn't a threat on his life, there was a lot of hate posts about him on a White Supremesist website, but nothing in the form of a Death Threat or people would have been arrested.

You don't think a lot of hate posts on White Supremesist's websites for the first Black to run as president isn't a threat???

I don't think they would actually do anything, those guys are all talk. Anyways Obama had a security detail for being in the Senate.

Obama over reacted and went to Senator Reid and asked for protection.

::sigh:: Link.

It was on cnn.com look it up. Harry Reid approached the other Senate leadership and they approved it.

Like I said im not opposed to it if they pay for it, lord knows they can afford it.

Hmm........ok, I'll keep that in mind while looking to see if there is secret service for all the candidates.


I think every candidate other then Hillary(for obvious reasons) Republican or Democrat should have to pay for a Secret Service detail if they want it.

ViolaLee
09-10-2007, 03:56 AM
All the candidates get Secret Service protection at some point.

Those who get threats just get it sooner.

Your way just makes it harder for anyone other than a millionaire to run for president. Isn't it already hard enough?

lily
09-10-2007, 03:59 AM
*Sign* www.chrisdodd.com

I'm not going to sign up to his web site and get tons of spam. I'm not the one that's pushing for him. I would think that if you support him, you would know what he stands for.


Hillary has never made much sense.

Well thought out response.:ponder:


I don't think they would actually do anything, those guys are all talk. Anyways Obama had a security detail for being in the Senate.

Well, obviously the Secret Service didn't see it the same way you did.




It was on cnn.com look it up. Harry Reid approached the other Senate leadership and they approved it.

I'm not the one making the claim you are. It's up to you to do the search. I'll just take that as a "Lily, I was making that up".


I think every candidate other then Hillary(for obvious reasons) Republican or Democrat should have to pay for a Secret Service detail if they want it.

Again.......you're not the one making the decision. If you want to change this, work on legislation.

nevadamedic
09-10-2007, 04:03 AM
All the candidates get Secret Service protection at some point.

Those who get threats just get it sooner.

Your way just makes it harder for anyone other than a millionaire to run for president. Isn't it already hard enough?


Not true. Obama can afford it, he has over 40 Million last I checked. If not they can hire another detail pretty cheap actually.

Truth_and_Power
09-10-2007, 04:29 PM
I don't think any of the candidates should have to pay for secret service protection. That would basically limit anyone who's not rich from running for president. And I think we all know that there's a good chance someone would like to take a shot at obama. Anti-War, Liberal, Black, I think we've seen this before!