Fmr. CIA Bin Laden Chief: Ron Paul the only one NOT taking marching orders from Al Qa

[qwerty]

Fmr. CIA Bin Laden Chief: Ron Paul the only one NOT taking marching orders from Al Qaeda

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WgqUb8X6AA

At the end of the tape...

"You know, there was a comment the other day about Mr. Paul marching to Al Queda's drummer, well the truth of the matter is that its all of the Democrats and the Rebublicans, except perhaps Mr. Paul and Kucunich, who are marching to Osama Bin Laden's drum."


- Michael Scheuer


:clapper:

[PatrickHenry]

OBL and the Washington Establishment are both getting pumped by the Mid East.

Need I note that Paul and Kucinich are not members of the Washington Establishment?

[tony mitra]

Mr. Paul, Mr. Kuchinish, along with Mike Gravel and a few other like minded people to consider cutting across partisan lines, making a team, and stand as an independent alternative to the establishment.

[Buck Laser]

Mr. Paul, Mr. Kuchinish, along with Mike Gravel and a few other like minded people to consider cutting across partisan lines, making a team, and stand as an independent alternative to the establishment.

First, welcome to DF, tony. I hope you'll stick around for awhile, because it looks like you have a unique perspective on American politics.

But as to Kucinich and Paul making common cause, I wouldn't think it likely. While they certainly have some ideas in common, the thought processes by which they arrived at them are radically different from each other. I think they'd be mortal enemies in about two minutes.

The greatest change in Washington politics would be a real dismantling of the lobbying system. Trouble is that the system goes back at least 150 years, and getting rid of it would be as hard as getting rid of the two party system. I'd like to be more optimistic about getting rid of the excessive influence of the lobbies, but I just don't see it going easily.

[ViolaLee]

Whatever we do, we need to vote in a person who is NOT another religious fanatic. Bin Laden and Bush are exactly that.

[qwerty]

Whatever we do, we need to vote in a person who is NOT another religious fanatic. Bin Laden and Bush are exactly that.


Brief Overview of Congressman Paul’s Record:

He has never voted to raise taxes.
He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
He has never taken a government-paid junket.
He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.

He voted against the Patriot Act.
He voted against regulating the Internet.
He voted against the Iraq war.

He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.
He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.

Congressman Paul introduces numerous pieces of substantive legislation each year, probably more than any single member of Congress.


:thumbsup:

[tony mitra]

Thanks Buck Laser for the kind words. I lived in the US for several years before moving to Canada, and look at things my own way, but acknowledge that what USA does internally and externally has a bearing to a large part of the planet, and therefore, sometimes US internal politics becomes issues of interest to outsiders as well.

I note your comments about Ron Paul and Kucinich not getting together. I did like almost everything Mr. Paul said, from U Tube, excepting minor points. I like most everything Kucinich said, again except minor points. I liked everything Mike Gravel said.

Regarding the rest - they just seemed like regular politicians, saying what will further their particular career. It is only Mr. Paul, Mr. Gravel and Mr Kucinich that appeared genuinely concerned about the direction USA was heading in, and the fact that it could lead to major disasters and were willing to take corrective actions in time. If there are others who also felt the same way, I must have missed their comments.

Sometimes, even if minor differences remain between like minded folks, it is better to compromise and join hands for the greater good, that stay fragmented and never achieve anything, except a track record of standing for your principles.

Was a time I used to think a two party system was good. I am permanently cured of that misconception. It is much better to have 14 parties, or even 20, so that no one party gains majority, and all views are given weight. Denmark manages well enough, as does Canada, Italy, India or a number of other nations.

But, I take your point. Corporate power is so focussed and omnipotent, that nothing likely will come out of it.

I remember Mike Gravel waving his hands and sweeping the broad swath of Democratic candidates and declaring that each and every one of them, and all Republicans too, except a handful, are owned by the military industrial complex, lock stock and barrel. Nothing is going to change, no matter which person from which platform gets to the White House.

He did not mince his words. If he proves to be right - that would be a mockery of democracy, and a real tragedy for America and the free world.

Cheers, and again, thanks for the good words.