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PatrickHenry
09-05-2007, 08:09 PM
http://rss.cnn.com/~r/rss/cnn_topstories/~3/152378857/index.html
Not by invading other nations. Police work, arrests, courts and lawyers then time in the penitentiary.
All three had been under surveillance for more than six months, a spokesman for Germany's Interior Ministry told CNN.
One of the two Germans was arrested in December for spying on a U.S. military installation in Hanau, Germany, he said.
German media identified the two Germans -- both converts to Islam -- as Fritz G., 28, and Daniel S. 22; the Turkish man was identified as Adem Y., 29.
According to the reports, Fritz G. was a leading member of a radical Islamist center in Ulm in southern Germany and was well known to German authorities.
Schaeuble said the radical Islamist center was under surveillance and authorities "knew this center in Ulm was playing a role" in the terror plot, although he did not elaborate.
Scorpion
09-05-2007, 11:03 PM
Not by invading other nations. Police work, arrests, courts and lawyers then time in the penitentiary.
Not a very practical idea. Our courts are overworked and ineffective, our prisons are critically overloaded, most jurisdictions are underpoliced, all resulting in an inability to deal with serious crime in the US. All that said, how do you propose utilizing scarce and overburdened criminal justice resources to take on the war on terror?
PatrickHenry
09-05-2007, 11:14 PM
Not a very practical idea. Our courts are overworked and ineffective, our prisons are critically overloaded, most jurisdictions are underpoliced, all resulting in an inability to deal with serious crime in the US. All that said, how do you propose utilizing scarce and overburdened criminal justice resources to take on the war on terror?
That's easy. Decriminalize all drugs and turn the DEA into undercover terror cops. Release all drug convicts on an abbreviated parole.
Next question?
BoogyMan
09-05-2007, 11:16 PM
Oh my goodness, PH, are you kidding?
Even if drugs were made legal, the crime that surrounds the illicit drug trade would show a huge percentage of those folks the inside of a prison cell within a very short time.
Scorpion
09-05-2007, 11:17 PM
Not a very practical idea. Our courts are overworked and ineffective, our prisons are critically overloaded, most jurisdictions are underpoliced, all resulting in an inability to deal with serious crime in the US. All that said, how do you propose utilizing scarce and overburdened criminal justice resources to take on the war on terror?
That's easy. Decriminalize all drugs and turn the DEA into undercover terror cops. Release all drug convicts on an abbreviated parole.
Next question?
Are you serious?
PatrickHenry
09-05-2007, 11:35 PM
Boogy, are you saying that the druggies shouldn't be released? Or that the criminals who have profited from drugs up to this point shouldn't be released?
Either way if they offend again, they get their parole revoked or get a new case of something besides drugs and the gate closes again...
Because I have no problem with folks doing drugs or even selling them. I have no mercy for criminals who prey upon victims...
Meanwhile there is some room in the pen for convicted terrorists and a nice group of undercover-trained fuzz to track 'em down. Just hafta teach 'em the terror rhetoric...
And how else do you think terrorists get nailed?
It sure ain't by spending a trillion dollars in the Middle East and killing thousands of innocent civilians...
BoogyMan
09-05-2007, 11:38 PM
Boogy, are you saying that the druggies shouldn't be released? Or that the criminals who have profited from drugs up to this point shouldn't be released?
Either way if they offend again, they get their parole revoked or get a new case of something besides drugs and the gate closes again...
Because I have no problem with folks doing drugs or even selling them. I have no mercy for criminals who prey upon victims...
Meanwhile there is some room in the pen for convicted terrorists and a nice group of undercover-trained fuzz to track 'em down. Just hafta teach 'em the terror rhetoric...
I think you missed my point PH. I am saying that pretty much as quickly as they are released a goodly number will return to the trade and the crime surrounding the trade will see them back in prison, quite likely before any supposed resources are freed up.
PatrickHenry
09-05-2007, 11:41 PM
Well, perhaps you are right, Boogy. In that case, they will be in the clink for something besides a consensual crime...
Meanwhile DEA can turn into a terror-fighting force and the troops can come home to defend the US against anybody who is actually threatening...
heyjude
09-06-2007, 01:46 AM
All most stoners want is to do their drugs and be left alone. There is no reason for them to commit crimes if they can legally obtain them. It would reduce costs, gaurantee the same dosage each time, and eliminate the need to do business with dealers and big drug cartels. I know that would put some rich Republicans out of business, but too bad.
It would also stop this country from imprisoning one out of every four black men which is racist and evil. Maybe we could spend the money we save fixing some of our bridges.
namguy
09-13-2007, 06:39 PM
All most stoners want is to do their drugs and be left alone. There is no reason for them to commit crimes if they can legally obtain them. It would reduce costs, gaurantee the same dosage each time, and eliminate the need to do business with dealers and big drug cartels. I know that would put some rich Republicans out of business, but too bad.
It would also stop this country from imprisoning one out of every four black men which is racist and evil. Maybe we could spend the money we save fixing some of our bridges.
We've always had terrorists, domestic or abroad, just no getting rid of them.
One out of four black men in prison is being racist:ecstatic: That's a ridiculous statement. Did you ever think that one out four black men commit crimes, maybe that thought skipped your mind.
White's are racist, doesn't seem to go that way when it comes to white women.:clapper:
Truth_and_Power
09-13-2007, 06:50 PM
Not by invading other nations. Police work, arrests, courts and lawyers then time in the penitentiary.
Not a very practical idea. Our courts are overworked and ineffective, our prisons are critically overloaded, most jurisdictions are underpoliced, all resulting in an inability to deal with serious crime in the US. All that said, how do you propose utilizing scarce and overburdened criminal justice resources to take on the war on terror?
legalize pot and that will more than make up for the use of the courts. not that your suggestion had merit to begin with.
moses2792796
09-14-2007, 07:16 AM
aha ahaha ahahaha aaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaha
Good point about the drugs though...sensible policy,
"Just for consistency all drugs should be legalised anyway. There's nothing worse than a moron with a beer in one hand and a cigarette in the other wailing about the 'degenerate scum' who are smoking weed.
The biggest drug related problem is crime, which is not caused by the drugs themselves, but through the means to which they are sold id est you can't complain to advertising standards that your dealer just hiked the price when he knew you had no money. Legalise them at a regular price and that is eliminated and shit, it'll be good for the economy.
The rest is karmic, as was pointed out earlier, some can take drugs, others cannot. Those who take heroin in place of weetabix will suffer whereas those who use weed as a social lubricant won't."
namguy
09-14-2007, 06:33 PM
aha ahaha ahahaha aaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaha
Good point about the drugs though...sensible policy,
"Just for consistency all drugs should be legalised anyway. There's nothing worse than a moron with a beer in one hand and a cigarette in the other wailing about the 'degenerate scum' who are smoking weed.
The biggest drug related problem is crime, which is not caused by the drugs themselves, but through the means to which they are sold id est you can't complain to advertising standards that your dealer just hiked the price when he knew you had no money. Legalise them at a regular price and that is eliminated and shit, it'll be good for the economy.
The rest is karmic, as was pointed out earlier, some can take drugs, others cannot. Those who take heroin in place of weetabix will suffer whereas those who use weed as a social lubricant won't."
Excellently put...:clapper:[/i][/u]
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