Do you think its right for the US government to train to disarm its citizens?

[Robodoon]

With Foreign Troops on US SOIL?

http://www.robodoon.com/images/Dutch%20Marine.jpg
Dutch Marine says disarmament practice going well. 1 min (OAKLAND CA)

VIDEO OF IT HAPPENING HERE http://www.robodoon.com/oakland_disarm.htm

I personally find this offensive and dangerous....what are your feelings?

[Robodoon]

Well is it a good thing or a bad thing?

Considering they are using basically Prince Burnhards troops, and Prince Burnhard was a nazi...its probably not so good.

[Mayberry]

I think it is a very bad thing, and as you may recall, completely unconstitutional. That being said, I don't think we'll ever see such a thing happening. If it did, the line will have been crossed, and I would prepare myself for a second civil war. No joke.

[Robodoon]

I think it is a very bad thing, and as you may recall, completely unconstitutional. That being said, I don't think we'll ever see such a thing happening. If it did, the line will have been crossed, and I would prepare myself for a second civil war. No joke.


Well Provisions have been made
OLLIE NORTH AND THE SECRET (FILM CLIP)

Argument in Congress over suspending the rights of Americans WIN

Argument in Congress over suspending the rights of Americans REAL
http://www.robodoon.com/police_state.htm

[Mayberry]

Any effort to take Americans' guns or suspend the constitution by force would be met by retaliation. It would cause civil war. I don't believe anyone would have the nerve to try it. There are militia groups that are VERY heavily armed, and they would be joined quickly by tens of thousands of people not willing to relenquish their arms, their rights, or their freedom, and who would die rather than relenquish their arms or their rights, myself included. I personally know several individuals who each own over a hundred rifles, pistols, shotguns, and yes, assault rifles. I am also sure that this is true all over the country, especially in the south. We love our guns. As Charlton Heston said, "Out of my cold, dead hand". Amen.

[Robodoon]

Any effort to take Americans' guns or suspend the constitution by force would be met by retaliation. It would cause civil war. I don't believe anyone would have the nerve to try it. There are militia groups that are VERY heavily armed, and they would be joined quickly by tens of thousands of people not willing to relenquish their arms, their rights, or their freedom, and who would die rather than relenquish their arms or their rights, myself included. I personally know several individuals who each own over a hundred rifles, pistols, shotguns, and yes, assault rifles. I am also sure that this is true all over the country, especially in the south. We love our guns. As Charlton Heston said, "Out of my cold, dead hand". Amen.


So you don't think the Elites who don't work understand that? So you don't think measures have been made to counter that?

We are not America 1945...we are America 2006...and much has changed...by design.


When force comes, it will not ask it will take. Many glassy eyes will come before us, and it will only cost us our lives and theirs to play.

But the masters of it, will sit safe in their castles, while we fight with our brothers and sisters who do not understand...but what to "help"

[Old Corps Gunny]

I see our favorite conspiracy theorist is at it again.

1. I seriously doubt the US Army is secretly training foreign troops to disarm US citizens.

2. I know that our military would not stand by while a foreign military force attempted to disarm US citizens.

3. Our career military, probably more than other citizens of the US, know exactly why the Second Amendment was added to the Constitution -- so that the citizens could band together as a militia in time of need instead of relying on Federal forces for protection. In addition, an armed citizenry tends to make anyone with thoughts of taking over the government and scrapping the Constitution very nervous.

4. If Robodoon has any actual proof of our government and military covertly training foreign soldiers for the sole purpose of disarming the US populace, I suggest he take the proof to Fox news instead of using this forum to plug his own site. Very tacky, that.

[Robodoon]

I see our favorite conspiracy theorist is at it again.

;)

1.Â*Â*I seriously doubt the US Army is secretly training foreign troops to disarm US citizens.

Film at 11:00Â*Â*FILM (http://www.robodoon.com/oakland_disarm.htm)

With foreign troops http://www.robodoon.com/images/Dutch%20Marine.jpg

2.Â*Â*I know that our military would not stand by while a foreign military force attempted to disarm US citizens.

Of couase not, thats why they seperate them. And in that video, there is US troops, local police and foreign ROYAL GUARD..doing it "together" isn't that just warm and fuzzy.

3.Â*Â*Our career military, probably more than other citizens of the US, know exactly why the Second Amendment was added to the Constitution -- so that the citizens could band together as a militia in time of need instead of relying on Federal forces for protection.Â*Â*In addition, an armed citizenry tends to make anyone with thoughts of taking over the government and scrapping the Constitution very nervous. You don't think they understand this simple matter? What happens when the enemy is making the calls? Would that not be a goal for some?


4.Â*Â*If Robodoon has any actual proof of our government and military covertly training foreign soldiers for the sole purpose of disarming the US populace, I suggest he take the proof to Fox news instead of using this forum to plug his own site.Â*Â*Very tacky, that.
[/quote]

Fox is owned by a globalist...do you know what that is?

And here is the film of what you just talked about.

http://www.robodoon.com/oakland_disarm.htm

And some more.

http://www.robodoon.com/nazi_train_yard.htm

http://www.robodoon.com/new_page_5.htm

http://www.robodoon.com/police_state.htm

I want the best for the people of the USA and the world...I'm sure you do as well.

[Buck Laser]

Oh, dear. The sky is falling.

[Robodoon]

Oh, dear.Â*Â*The sky is falling.


No America is. ;)

[Buck Laser]

Oh, dear. The sky is falling.


No America is. ;)

I'v e been hearing that shit all my life. Why is this time any different?

[gurutoo]

The "train" video certainly raises some questions...

[dsanthony]

Any effort to take Americans' guns or suspend the constitution by force would be met by retaliation. It would cause civil war. I don't believe anyone would have the nerve to try it. There are militia groups that are VERY heavily armed, and they would be joined quickly by tens of thousands of people not willing to relenquish their arms, their rights, or their freedom, and who would die rather than relenquish their arms or their rights, myself included. I personally know several individuals who each own over a hundred rifles, pistols, shotguns, and yes, assault rifles. I am also sure that this is true all over the country, especially in the south. We love our guns. As Charlton Heston said, "Out of my cold, dead hand". Amen.


This is paranoid hysteria. As for the tapes.. the US is often part of multi-national forces and it only makes sense that we work and train with other nations for warfare or peacekeeping duties.

The militias are jokes really. If the US govt, or US military, ever wanted to impose martial law or suspend the constitution, they have overwhelming military and technilogical superiority. No doubt there would be rioting, but it would not last long.

Militias often look to Waco as an example of how they could hold off the govt. In a real national emergency, one missile from an Army helicopter would have taken out the entire compound.

[Mayberry]

This is paranoid hysteria. I didn't say I BELONGED to a militia, I said I would JOIN one. It's neither here nor there, because no one will have the cajones to take away American's right to bear arms. But I do believe militias would be quite effective, it seems to be working for the insurgents in Iraq. Gorilla warfare is very effective against a large, well armed force (Revolutionary war, anyone?). And if we can't wage full scale warfare in Iraq, what makes you think they'll do it here?

[PittsburghAfterDark]

You'd have a huge chasm of defecting military units and personnel if they were ordered to disarm citizens.

Not only that you'd certainly have governors refuse to nationalize their guard units and they wield considerable military firepower. Pennsylvania, for example, fields the entire 28th Mechanized Infantry Division.

The U.S. army strength is rated at 778,000. 446,000 of those are NG or Reserve personnel. Link (http://www.cbo.gov/showdoc.cfm?index=301&sequence=2)

You can't count on 60% of a civllian army in daily civillian jobs turning on their communities.

Complete B.S.

[Mayberry]

Complete B.S. Thank you Pittsburg.

[Robodoon]

Oh, dear.Â*Â*The sky is falling.


No America is. ;)

I'v e been hearing that shit all my life.Â*Â*Why is this time any different?


Because the plans for World Government are almost done...most everything is in place, these wars will provide the final push in Crisis that will then be offered the "solution"

The Trade systems are almost complete (EU, WTO, SPP, )
The Government restructures are in most nations now (UN Agenda 21)
Global Army almost ready to stand up on its own. (NATO)

[Robodoon]

The "train" video certainly raises some questions...


And the TRAINING video too http://www.robodoon.com/oakland_disarm.htm

[Robodoon]

Any effort to take Americans' guns or suspend the constitution by force would be met by retaliation. It would cause civil war. I don't believe anyone would have the nerve to try it. There are militia groups that are VERY heavily armed, and they would be joined quickly by tens of thousands of people not willing to relenquish their arms, their rights, or their freedom, and who would die rather than relenquish their arms or their rights, myself included. I personally know several individuals who each own over a hundred rifles, pistols, shotguns, and yes, assault rifles. I am also sure that this is true all over the country, especially in the south. We love our guns. As Charlton Heston said, "Out of my cold, dead hand". Amen.


This is paranoid hysteria.Â*Â*As for the tapes.. the US is often part of multi-national forces and it only makes sense that we work and train with other nations for warfare or peacekeeping duties.

The militias are jokes really.Â*Â*If the US govt, or US military, ever wanted to impose martial law or suspend the constitution, they have overwhelming military and technilogical superiority.Â*Â*No doubt there would be rioting, but it would not last long.

Militias often look to Waco as an example of how they could hold off the govt.Â*Â*In a real national emergency, one missile from an Army helicopter would have taken out the entire compound.


LOOK AT NATO video clip

http://www.robodoon.com/images/NATO%20TO%20NAZI%20PIC.gifhttp://www.robodoon.com/nato.htm

[Robodoon]

You'd have a huge chasm of defecting military units and personnel if they were ordered to disarm citizens.

Not only that you'd certainly have governors refuse to nationalize their guard units and they wield considerable military firepower.Â*Â*Pennsylvania, for example, fields the entire 28th Mechanized Infantry Division.

The U.S. army strength is rated at 778,000. 446,000 of those are NG or Reserve personnel.Â*Â* Link (http://www.cbo.gov/showdoc.cfm?index=301&sequence=2)

You can't count on 60% of a civllian army in daily civillian jobs turning on their communities.

Complete B.S.


They have already seperated the troops that will disarm Americans from the ones who won't and most of our Troops are overseas, guess which ones they sent over seas?

[Buck Laser]

Oh, dear. The sky is falling.


No America is. ;)

I'v e been hearing that shit all my life. Why is this time any different?


Because the plans for World Government are almost done...most everything is in place, these wars will provide the final push in Crisis that will then be offered the "solution"

The Trade systems are almost complete (EU, WTO, SPP, )
The Government restructures are in most nations now (UN Agenda 21)
Global Army almost ready to stand up on its own. (NATO)

If I were you, son, I'd worry more about Exxon-Mobil, BP and Halliburton than I would about UN & NATO. But if you want to be blind, that's OK with me too.

[PittsburghAfterDark]

OMG you're fucking hysterical.

They've seperated the troops that will disarm Americans from the ones that won't?

Man, you're smoking some good stuff.

[Mayberry]

They can TRY to disarm me:D And they'll kill me, but not before I take out a few of them. Get serious Robo, There are WAY too many rednecks left in these United States. We know how to take care of ourselves, they know it, and they know ANY attempt to disarm us will be met with a long, drawn out, bloody fight. Farmers have ammonium nitrate, a little diesel fuel, KABOOM! Ain't gonna happen.

[Labrocca]

I don't think that dutch guy understood what disarmament meant. He is just a friendly guy saying "ya ya ...all is going well".

[Labrocca]

They can TRY to disarm me:D And they'll kill me, but not before I take out a few of them. Get serious Robo, There are WAY too many rednecks left in these United States. We know how to take care of ourselves, they know it, and they know ANY attempt to disarm us will be met with a long, drawn out, bloody fight. Farmers have ammonium nitrate, a little diesel fuel, KABOOM! Ain't gonna happen.



Exactly..and as long as they still sell guns at Walmart I don't think we have to worry. When they take away our ability to buy guns then I would worry.

[Robodoon]

Oh, dear.Â*Â*The sky is falling.


No America is. ;)

I'v e been hearing that shit all my life.Â*Â*Why is this time any different?


Because the plans for World Government are almost done...most everything is in place, these wars will provide the final push in Crisis that will then be offered the "solution"

The Trade systems are almost complete (EU, WTO, SPP, )
The Government restructures are in most nations now (UN Agenda 21)
Global Army almost ready to stand up on its own. (NATO)

If I were you, son, I'd worry more about Exxon-Mobil, BP and Halliburton than I would about UN & NATO.Â*Â*But if you want to be blind, that's OK with me too.



WHO DO YOU THINK THE POWERS BEHIND THE UN AND NATO ARE! Mr smarty pants! YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE GAME YET!

YOU ARE GOOD, but you do not understand the game!

[Robodoon]

OMG you're fucking hysterical.

They've seperated the troops that will disarm Americans from the ones that won't?

Man, you're smoking some good stuff.


Nope its just information you haven't found yet.

The Navy Seals and Rangers were question on this, and this VIDIO shows the result in action, and they laugh when they are asked if they are willing to disarm Americans ...saying "LOL...we better not answer that"...but its during a TRAINING OF DISARMING AMERICAN CITIZENS AND PUTTING THEM IN CAMPS

HERE IS THE FILM OF IT HAPPENING http://www.robodoon.com/oakland_disarm.htm

HERE IS THE FILM OF A CONGRESSMAN SAYING, YES PROVISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE! TO SUPEND THE US CONSTITUTION, ARREST AMERICANS AND PUT THEM IN CAMPS

OLLIE NORTH AND THE SECRET (FILM CLIP)

Argument in Congress over suspending the rights of Americans WIN

Argument in Congress over suspending the rights of Americans REAL
http://www.robodoon.com/police_state.htm

I'M SORRY, this is really going on, I wasn't to happy to find out about it either!

[Robodoon]

They can TRY to disarm me:D And they'll kill me, but not before I take out a few of them. Get serious Robo, There are WAY too many rednecks left in these United States. We know how to take care of ourselves, they know it, and they know ANY attempt to disarm us will be met with a long, drawn out, bloody fight. Farmers have ammonium nitrate, a little diesel fuel, KABOOM! Ain't gonna happen.


The powers that be will not be fighting, and they care not how many American die or anyone else for that matter in the quest for their "VISION'

The commanders are out of our reach, they fool us to do the dirty work.

After all, the troops are just following orders :(

[Robodoon]

I don't think that dutch guy understood what disarmament meant.Â*Â*He is just a friendly guy saying "ya ya ...all is going well".


HE IS DUTCH ROYAL GAURD, he is PRINCE BURNHARD's GAURD, PRINCE BURNHARD IS A NAZI!! HE WAS UNDER HITLER!

And where they live is a TEST GROUND FOR THE NEW WORLD ORDER, it is far more advanced in the process then the USA!

[Robodoon]

They can TRY to disarm me:D And they'll kill me, but not before I take out a few of them. Get serious Robo, There are WAY too many rednecks left in these United States. We know how to take care of ourselves, they know it, and they know ANY attempt to disarm us will be met with a long, drawn out, bloody fight. Farmers have ammonium nitrate, a little diesel fuel, KABOOM! Ain't gonna happen.



Exactly..and as long as they still sell guns at Walmart I don't think we have to worry.Â*Â*When they take away our ability to buy guns then I would worry.


OH MY GOSH! :(:(:(

[robthoven]

They can TRY to disarm me:D And they'll kill me, but not before I take out a few of them. Get serious Robo, There are WAY too many rednecks left in these United States. We know how to take care of ourselves, they know it, and they know ANY attempt to disarm us will be met with a long, drawn out, bloody fight. Farmers have ammonium nitrate, a little diesel fuel, KABOOM! Ain't gonna happen.



Exactly..and as long as they still sell guns at Walmart I don't think we have to worry. When they take away our ability to buy guns then I would worry.


WalMat (at least in my town in CO) no longer sells guns. I could buy a toy compound bow and an air rifle and BBs but gun and ammo counter are gone.

[cs0564]

That is why I DO NOT register my weapons. City's with "no gun" laws are some of the most dangerous in our country. Like I have seen before........... Come get these guns if your big enough! I will take out more than a few!

Also, it is constitutional!

[firefox]

Yes. In NH, there are very few gun restrictions, and that's one of the many reasons I'm moving there! CA and WA suck in terms of this.

[cs0564]

Yes. In NH, there are very few gun restrictions, and that's one of the many reasons I'm moving there! CA and WA suck in terms of this.


Both are Blue states.

Thanks God Texas is still a gun toting state! I voted Republican for that the very reason!

ps. Costco has now banned concealed weapons from their stores!