government corruption

[flaja]

The land of Prussia is notoriously worthless for agricultural purposes. By early 1930s many of the Junker nobles were bankrupt. The Reichstag had prepared a secret report detailing the Osthilfe, a program whereby the government would make loans to the bankrupt Junkers with no intention of ever collecting repayment.

On the night of January 22, 1933 Adolf Hitler meet privately with Oskar von Hindenburg, the son of German President Paul von Hindenburg. No record was made of what transpired at this private meeting; only Hitler and Oskar von Hindenburg were present and only they knew with certainty what was said and agreed to.

However, following World War I the Junkers got together and gave Paul von Hindenburg an estate in Neudeck, thus making him a Junker. But, the land had been illegally deeded to Oskar so the Hindenburgs could avoid paying inheritance taxes when the elder Hindenburg died. Speculation is that Hitler threatened to make public the details of the Osthilfe scandal as well as the Hindenburgs tax dodge. Several months after Hitler was named Chancellor 5000 acres were added tax-free to the Hindenburg estate and in August 1934Oskar was raised from colonel to major general in the German army.

Thus the final maneuvers that gave Adolf Hitler the Chancellorship of the Weimar Republic, and set the world on the road to the Holocaust and the most destructive war in history, may have centered around government corruption and the poor moral character of the people who had government power. This should be a lesson to everyone who believes that a politician’s personal character is of no importance as long they can perform their government job effectively. Never again should a politician like Bill Clinton be given a pass simply because his moral corruption is supposedly confined to his private life.

[ClayBarham]

Sounds like special interest government to me.

[PatrickHenry]

Never again should a politician like ...Bill Clinton ...be given a pass ...
Dude! That was years ago! How about the pukes in public office now? Or do they have your support because their corruption is "conservative?"

[ECW]

Comparing Clinton to Hitler and Hindenburg... that's a new one. Somehow I can't see where a blow job and a World War could possibly be a correlative comparison. Ignoring today's corruption, as PH said, is icing on the cake. Infuckingcredible.

[ViolaLee]

HAHA! He posted this on Colbert's site too.

http://www.colboard.com/viewtopic.php?p=629801&sid=d8e98ba8553f9f9bc29c9e515cd1b654

I googled the first sentence to see where he got it from....and that's where the search lead.

[flaja]

Never again should a politician like ...Bill Clinton ...be given a pass ...
Dude! That was years ago! How about the pukes in public office now? Or do they have your support because their corruption is "conservative?"


I don’t know of any conservatives who 1. Believes George W. Bush is a conservative and 2. Is willing to give GWB or anyone else a pass on their corruption and immorality.

[ECW]

That's because Bush is a neoconservative. Just calling him that (and identifying his supporters with the same label) has caused a number of them to try and throw the "neoliberal" label at the lefties here when it's clear that a "neoliberal" isn't a Liberal at all. Bush isn't a traditional conservative by any means but he runs with that crowd so...

[BoogyMan]

Never again should a politician like ...Bill Clinton ...be given a pass ...
Dude! That was years ago! How about the pukes in public office now? Or do they have your support because their corruption is "conservative?"


I don’t know of any conservatives who 1. Believes George W. Bush is a conservative and 2. Is willing to give GWB or anyone else a pass on their corruption and immorality.


Well said Flaja. You will find, however, that the left wishes to hold up their side of the aisle without scrutiny, while excoriating the right for activity that both sides engage in. It is a contentious and dishonest practice that the right has also engaged in. Somewhere the chain has got to be broken and new blood introduced into our government that is not tainted with tens of years of exposure in Washington as a "public servant."

[PatrickHenry]

Never again should a politician like ...Bill Clinton ...be given a pass ...
Dude! That was years ago! How about the pukes in public office now? Or do they have your support because their corruption is "conservative?"


I don’t know of any conservatives who 1. Believes George W. Bush is a conservative and 2. Is willing to give GWB or anyone else a pass on their corruption and immorality.
Good for you. I support an evenhanded application of skepticism regarding government corruption.

Believe me, I don't support the malefactors of the Clinton regime, but that was sooo last decade!

So Bush calling himself a conservative...does that make him a big fat liar?

[Truth_and_Power]

Never again should a politician like ...Bill Clinton ...be given a pass ...
Dude! That was years ago! How about the pukes in public office now? Or do they have your support because their corruption is "conservative?"


I don’t know of any conservatives who 1. Believes George W. Bush is a conservative and 2. Is willing to give GWB or anyone else a pass on their corruption and immorality.


I guess the thread criticizing bush is still under construction..

[flaja]

That's because Bush is a neoconservative. Just calling him that (and identifying his supporters with the same label) has caused a number of them to try and throw the "neoliberal" label at the lefties here when it's clear that a "neoliberal" isn't a Liberal at all. Bush isn't a traditional conservative by any means but he runs with that crowd so...


GWB spends money like a liberal Democrat. He kills the unborn like a liberal Democrat and he fights wars like Lyndon Johnson and Harry Truman. How conservative can he be?[hr]


Never again should a politician like ...Bill Clinton ...be given a pass ...
Dude! That was years ago! How about the pukes in public office now? Or do they have your support because their corruption is "conservative?"


I don’t know of any conservatives who 1. Believes George W. Bush is a conservative and 2. Is willing to give GWB or anyone else a pass on their corruption and immorality.


Well said Flaja. You will find, however, that the left wishes to hold up their side of the aisle without scrutiny, while excoriating the right for activity that both sides engage in. It is a contentious and dishonest practice that the right has also engaged in. Somewhere the chain has got to be broken and new blood introduced into our government that is not tainted with tens of years of exposure in Washington as a "public servant."


The thing that compelled Richard Nixon to resign rather than go through a certain impeachment trial was the warning from Barry Goldwater that no more than a few Republicans in the Senate would vote to acquit. But the dividing line between Democrats and Republicans came to an end when 10 Republican Senators voted to acquit Bill Clinton in 1999.

When I turned 18 in 1986 I registered to vote as the first Republican in my family. I voted for the GOP ticket in every election through 1998. I changed by registration status to no party when these 10 Republicans demonstrated their utter lack of respect for the law. Since then I have voted for only 3 GOP candidates: Bill McCollum for the U.S. Senate in 2000 (only as a show of respect for his role in impeaching Clinton) and GWB in 2000 and 2004 and this was only because I feared the Democrat alternative (if Kerry’s wife hadn’t been foreign, I wouldn’t have voted in 2004). I have regretted my vote for GWB both times. GWB’s illegal eavesdropping and his attempt to turn U.S. ports over to Dubai were the final straws for me and I will never again vote for a Republican no matter how much I fear the Democrat.