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Stoner
08-13-2007, 05:41 PM
Aaaaaaaaaand we'll scratch Osama off the list of people I'll be possibly voting for. I hate people that play the race card and will definitly not be voting for him now. It's obvious Osama is sliding in the polls so his wife decided to make this a racial issue.

I was waiting for this cowardly act to be used by them. For a moment I didn't think his camp would do it...but like clockwork his wife decided to play that card.

CHICAGO (AP) - The wife of Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama on Sunday admonished those who question her biracial husband's credentials as a black man, calling the issue "nonsense."
"We're still playing around with the question: Is he black enough?" Michelle Obama told a campaign event on Chicago's South Side. "Stop that nonsense."

Michelle Obama, who was raised on the South Side, was speaking at a predominantly black "Women for Obama" rally, which cheered her comment about the U.S. senator from Illinois.

She added that raising the specter of whether her husband—whose mother was white and whose father was Kenyan—was sufficiently black sent a confusing message to kids.

"We are messing with the heads of our children," she said.

At the gathering, Michelle Obama also thanked the South Side community for supporting her family over the years.

"This community of people has raised us ... has helped create our moral fabric," she said. "We couldn't do it without the South Side."

She also told the several hundred people at the elaborately decorated Grand Ballroom that she hoped her husband serves as a role model in how he helps raise their two young daughters.

"If you can't run your own house, you certainly can't run the White House," she said.

___

LOS ANGELES (AP)—Obama got Oprah. Clinton gets Magic.

New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's presidential campaign said Sunday that former NBA star Earvin "Magic" Johnson will hold a fundraiser to support her candidacy on Sept. 14.

The announcement comes about a month after Illinois Sen. Barack Obama's campaign said that talk show host Oprah Winfrey will hold a Sept. 8 fundraiser on his behalf at her palatial estate near Santa Barbara.

The dueling events highlight the competition among Democratic candidates for black support in the party's 2008 presidential primary.

Winfrey is a well-known Obama fan. She called him "my favorite guy" and "my choice" on CNN's "Larry King Live" last year before he announced he would run for president.

In a statement, Johnson said Clinton "has the experience and knowledge to help lead our country."

Co-hosts at Johnson's fundraiser include music industry heavyweights Quincy Jones and Berry Gordy, who announced their support for Clinton's campaign in April.

___

TULSA, Okla. (AP)—Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton told hundreds of supporters in Oklahoma she will make a strong effort to win over the politically conservative state.

"I don't know whether we can carry Oklahoma or not, but we're going to give it a try," she said at a fundraiser late Saturday evening. "After today, I'm on the way."

Clinton, whose flight from Texas was more than an hour late, spoke for about 30 minutes but hung around afterward to sign autographs and talk with people.

More Americans should become energy conscious, just like her late father was, who turned the lights off when people left a room and turned the heat off at nights even during cold Chicago winters, she said.

"I'm acting more and more like him all the time," Clinton said.

Mike Turpen, Oklahoma finance chairman for her presidential bid, said Clinton's two Oklahoma fundraisers, including one in June, show she has "committed, enthusiastic supporters" in the state.

He said she raised a total of approximately $400,000 in the two events.

___

DES MOINES, Iowa (AP)—The wife of Republican presidential candidate Rep. Ron Paul of Texas had surgery Sunday to install a heart pacemaker.

A statement from Paul's campaign said that the surgery on Carol Paul was a success and that she is expected to make a full recovery.

Carol Paul was hospitalized Saturday after experiencing an irregular heartbeat. Her husband, who was due to participate in a high profile Republican straw poll in Ames, was delayed in arriving at the event because he was at his wife's side.

Paul attended the straw poll—where he placed fifth—after doctors gave him assurances his wife would be fine.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8R07N3O0&show_article=1

ViolaLee
08-13-2007, 05:48 PM
Aaaaaaaaaand we'll scratch Osama off the list of people I'll be possibly voting for. I hate people that play the race card and will definitly not be voting for him now. It's obvious Osama is sliding in the polls so his wife decided to make this a racial issue.

I was waiting for this cowardly act to be used by them. For a moment I didn't think his camp would do it...but like clockwork his wife decided to play that card.


His wife didn't make it the issue. She responded to those who did.

By the way, if you dislike race being an issue so much, why did you make it an issue in your deliberate mispelling of his name?

Are you a hypocrite?

gasp.

:thumbsup::unreal::ponder:

exigent
08-13-2007, 06:52 PM
Another stoner lie.

from the article provided

She added that raising the specter of whether her husband—whose mother was white and whose father was Kenyan—was sufficiently black sent a confusing message to kids.


She says what we all think, who cares if he's 'black enough'? Well besides stoner...

Waffletush
08-13-2007, 06:55 PM
So all of the Liberals who are taking issue with Stoner in this thread are AGAINST affirmative action? After all, who cares how black someone is, right?

exigent
08-13-2007, 06:59 PM
So all of the Liberals who are taking issue with Stoner in this thread are AGAINST affirmative action? After all, who cares how black someone is, right?


I'm actually against affirmative action, though I dont see how it's relevant in this thread. Affirmative action right now doesnt work as good as it could.

And Viola, I have met some level headed conservatives. Lets not fall into the trap of grouping them and labelling them as they do us.

:peace:

Truth_and_Power
08-13-2007, 07:21 PM
Oh please who do you think you're fooling you were never considering voting for a democrat in the first place. And you play the xenophobia card in the subject line, which means you really don't give a crap about race-manipulative politics anyway. What a joke.

Stoner
08-13-2007, 07:27 PM
Oh please who do you think you're fooling you were never considering voting for a democrat in the first place.

Everyone is on my mental list. I scratch them off one by one until I'm down to one.

I can't help it neolibs keep doing ignorant things. Don't blame me, blame them.

Edwards was scratched when he used his wife's cancer to gain votes. Hillar-y-ous was scratched for having no clue about politics. She's just running on her unfaithful husband's name and the fact she's a woman.

The only neolib that hasn't looked like a complete and total loser is Bill Richardson. He hasn't been scratched off the list yet.

exigent
08-13-2007, 07:37 PM
Stoner, simplify this a bit please...obama was "scratched off" cuz his wife did what again, exactly?

Stoner
08-13-2007, 07:40 PM
Stoner, simplify this a bit please...obama was "scratched off" cuz his wife did what again, exactly?


Sorry, son. I can't help you read and comprehend.

The great thing about forums is everything is saved and documented. If your comprehension skills are failing you once again I suggest going to the beginning of this thread and re-reading.

Sorry, son, it's all I can do.

exigent
08-13-2007, 07:46 PM
Aaaaaaaaaand we'll scratch Osama off the list of people I'll be possibly voting for. I hate people that play the race card and will definitly not be voting for him now. It's obvious Osama is sliding in the polls so his wife decided to make this a racial issue.

I was waiting for this cowardly act to be used by them. For a moment I didn't think his camp would do it...but like clockwork his wife decided to play that card.

CHICAGO (AP) - The wife of Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama on Sunday admonished those who question her biracial husband's credentials as a black man, calling the issue "nonsense."
"We're still playing around with the question: Is he black enough?" Michelle Obama told a campaign event on Chicago's South Side. "Stop that nonsense."

Michelle Obama, who was raised on the South Side, was speaking at a predominantly black "Women for Obama" rally, which cheered her comment about the U.S. senator from Illinois.

She added that raising the specter of whether her husband—whose mother was white and whose father was Kenyan—was sufficiently black sent a confusing message to kids.

"We are messing with the heads of our children," she said.

At the gathering, Michelle Obama also thanked the South Side community for supporting her family over the years.

"This community of people has raised us ... has helped create our moral fabric," she said. "We couldn't do it without the South Side."

She also told the several hundred people at the elaborately decorated Grand Ballroom that she hoped her husband serves as a role model in how he helps raise their two young daughters.

"If you can't run your own house, you certainly can't run the White House," she said.

___

LOS ANGELES (AP)—Obama got Oprah. Clinton gets Magic.

New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's presidential campaign said Sunday that former NBA star Earvin "Magic" Johnson will hold a fundraiser to support her candidacy on Sept. 14.

The announcement comes about a month after Illinois Sen. Barack Obama's campaign said that talk show host Oprah Winfrey will hold a Sept. 8 fundraiser on his behalf at her palatial estate near Santa Barbara.

The dueling events highlight the competition among Democratic candidates for black support in the party's 2008 presidential primary.

Winfrey is a well-known Obama fan. She called him "my favorite guy" and "my choice" on CNN's "Larry King Live" last year before he announced he would run for president.

In a statement, Johnson said Clinton "has the experience and knowledge to help lead our country."

Co-hosts at Johnson's fundraiser include music industry heavyweights Quincy Jones and Berry Gordy, who announced their support for Clinton's campaign in April.

___

TULSA, Okla. (AP)—Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton told hundreds of supporters in Oklahoma she will make a strong effort to win over the politically conservative state.

"I don't know whether we can carry Oklahoma or not, but we're going to give it a try," she said at a fundraiser late Saturday evening. "After today, I'm on the way."

Clinton, whose flight from Texas was more than an hour late, spoke for about 30 minutes but hung around afterward to sign autographs and talk with people.

More Americans should become energy conscious, just like her late father was, who turned the lights off when people left a room and turned the heat off at nights even during cold Chicago winters, she said.

"I'm acting more and more like him all the time," Clinton said.

Mike Turpen, Oklahoma finance chairman for her presidential bid, said Clinton's two Oklahoma fundraisers, including one in June, show she has "committed, enthusiastic supporters" in the state.

He said she raised a total of approximately $400,000 in the two events.

___

DES MOINES, Iowa (AP)—The wife of Republican presidential candidate Rep. Ron Paul of Texas had surgery Sunday to install a heart pacemaker.

A statement from Paul's campaign said that the surgery on Carol Paul was a success and that she is expected to make a full recovery.

Carol Paul was hospitalized Saturday after experiencing an irregular heartbeat. Her husband, who was due to participate in a high profile Republican straw poll in Ames, was delayed in arriving at the event because he was at his wife's side.

Paul attended the straw poll—where he placed fifth—after doctors gave him assurances his wife would be fine.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8R07N3O0&show_article=1



Nope...read it twice and dont see what you're fussing about. Dont see the point of this thread, either. I asked you to paraphrase whatever it was you were trying to originally convey.

I'll take your previous snide response as absence of a logical explanation.

Stoner
08-13-2007, 07:49 PM
I'll take your previous snide response as absence of a logical explanation.


Ok. I'll take your inability to comprehend basic words and sentences under consideration when having to deal with you in the future. I'll use smaller words next time. May even have the gang from Sesame Street give me a hand in giving you a tutorial.

Buck Laser
08-13-2007, 07:55 PM
Stoner, simplify this a bit please...obama was "scratched off" cuz his wife did what again, exactly?


Sorry, son. I can't help you read and comprehend.

The great thing about forums is everything is saved and documented. If your comprehension skills are failing you once again I suggest going to the beginning of this thread and re-reading.

Sorry, son, it's all I can do.

No, that isn't all you can do. You can learn (possibly) to refrain from the sleaze you spread around with abandon. "Hussein Osama?" Gimme a fuckin' break, stoner! And you persist in misreading and misrepresenting accounts of events, just like you perpetuate the lie that anything signed into law is "automatically" constitutional. Sheesh! There are rational conservative voices around, but you sure as hell ain't one of 'em.

preservanation
08-14-2007, 12:53 AM
It's funny
the Dem's wives have more to say then their male counterparts, except Hillary.
She has Bill's balls in her lock box..

Labrocca
08-14-2007, 01:25 AM
Personally I don't see how she played the race card. My family takes the stance..when people do ask us we just tell them it's not an issue because we choose not to make it one.

"playing the race card" requires you to use it as a defense in some type of spin game..I don't read that here.

"Stop that nonsense."

What else can she say? It's a perfect sentiment imho.[hr]

Anti-Racism
08-14-2007, 01:51 AM
Multiculturalism is racism. I find the term "Hussein Osama" kind of silly. I think this guy's out for having nothing on his side BUT the race card.

preservanation
08-14-2007, 01:53 AM
If Hillary has anything to say about it,
sex will trump race.

Buck Laser
08-14-2007, 02:24 AM
If Hillary has anything to say about it,
sex will trump race.


Why are you using a thread about Michelle Obama to bash Senator Clinton? Is that what's called neocon intelligence? Or is it something simpler? Yeah, I think it is.

preservanation
08-14-2007, 02:28 AM
Ok, sorry,
I'll stop bashing the fat bitch.

Waffletush
08-14-2007, 03:02 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHA

<takes breath>

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHA


ha

preservanation
08-14-2007, 03:34 AM
You ever laugh becaus somebody else does?
Me too.
Bhaaaaaaaaaa
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Thanks, Waffle.
Made my day!

ECW
08-14-2007, 03:48 AM
I'll take your previous snide response as absence of a logical explanation.


Ok. I'll take your inability to comprehend basic words and sentences under consideration when having to deal with you in the future. I'll use smaller words next time. May even have the gang from Sesame Street give me a hand in giving you a tutorial.


Two chances to restate his bitch about Obama's wife and he couldn't do it. Even Labrocca called him on it, exigent, and he scooted away.

Translation: Obama is a Democrat and so is his wife. All they have to do is sneeze without covering their mouth and Stoner would use that as an excuse to wipe them off the list. He's going to vote for whomever the GOP nominee is. Don't let him string you along for the ride. His colors are well known here and there isn't a drop of blue in it. That's the sum total of his political analysis for this thread: Obama is off the list. Three down and five to go.

preservanation
08-14-2007, 03:50 AM
Obama is a Democrat and so is his wife. All they have to do is sneeze without covering their mouth and Stoner would use that as an excuse to wipe them off the list.Hillary will wipe him off
but it won't be from her "list".

ECW
08-14-2007, 04:05 AM
Count on seeing him or Richardson as the next VP. There will be so much "race" floating around that Stoner will puke upon getting out of bed in the morning before he gets to watch the news. He can use his "list" to wipe his mouth.

preservanation
08-14-2007, 04:31 AM
He can use his "list" to wipe his mouth.
Must be a pretty long "list".

PatrickHenry
08-14-2007, 05:23 AM
What soes it say about a member here, that he can conflate a Democratic Presidential candidate of African descent with America's reputed Enemy #1, Osama Bin Ladin?

Is he just a partisan hack?
Is he an antiBlack racist?
Is he an idiot?
Or does he think his remarks are funny?

Or all of the above?

Waffletush
08-14-2007, 05:42 AM
What soes it say about a member here, that he can conflate a Democratic Presidential candidate of African descent with America's reputed Enemy #1, Osama Bin Ladin?

Is he just a partisan hack?
Is he an antiBlack racist?
Is he an idiot?
Or does he think his remarks are funny?

Or all of the above?


I would say it says the exact same thing about Liberals here who liken people to Nazis.

PatrickHenry
08-14-2007, 05:53 AM
Well, I never saw anybody write George W. Hitler, but maybe that's not humorous...

ECW
08-15-2007, 08:51 AM
What soes it say about a member here, that he can conflate a Democratic Presidential candidate of African descent with America's reputed Enemy #1, Osama Bin Ladin?

Is he just a partisan hack?
Is he an antiBlack racist?
Is he an idiot?
Or does he think his remarks are funny?

Or all of the above?


I would say it says the exact same thing about Liberals here who liken people to Nazis.


By "people" you obviously mean Republicans. Yeah. Liberals learn real quick from the race-baiting, divisive, monocultured namecallers who think nothing of dropping "terrorist sympathizer" bombs on anyone who takes issue with a security policy or use the politics of Personal Destruction to discredit a candidate or a belief. It's a real bitch when that kind of shitt comes back around to bite you. THEN you want to play nice...

As for the people who would associate Barack Obama with OBL, they are the same ones who regularly bash Muslims, post so many threads about Hillary that one would think they were obsessed with her, and show their ignorance by constantly misusing the word "neolibs" when they ought to stick with bashing Liberals because a neoliberal is nothing like a Liberal. But then, you can't teach some people anything because they are so full of hate.

micfranklin
08-15-2007, 01:28 PM
I'm confused how Stoner won't be voting for Obama if it's his wife (i.e. not him) making an issue out of it?

Jaaaman
08-15-2007, 01:31 PM
I'm confused how Stoner won't be voting for Obama if it's his wife (i.e. not him) making an issue out of it?


The wives of politicians oftentimes influence their spouse on political decisions... It is definately not unheard of.

Truth_and_Power
08-15-2007, 04:30 PM
Hillarious.. whining about being called nazis when they post a thread a week about Hitlary and hussein osama. You guys are the kings of low brow political discourse.

Deadshot
08-15-2007, 04:48 PM
Argue this all you want, to be honest it won't start coming into play until March anyway.

Until then the Democrats will beat on each other, just as the Republicans will. After a winner is chosen in the primaries the attack ads will come out in full force.

But a word of warning. Woe be to the Democrat that tries to paint Republicans as racist Nazis or the Republican that tries to paint women or blacks negatively. It's all well and good in the anynonomous atmosphere of the internet to act like an ass, but do it in a public forum and the American people will crucify you.

...just a word to the wise, from Pennywise.:thumbsup:

ECW
08-15-2007, 05:52 PM
But a word of warning. Woe be to the Democrat that tries to paint Republicans as racist Nazis or the Republican that tries to paint women or blacks negatively. It's all well and good in the anynonomous atmosphere of the internet to act like an ass, but do it in a public forum and the American people will crucify you.


It would appear that Nixon's Southern Strategy is set in stone but mentioning it is verboten, eh? Ho-kay...

Waffletush
08-15-2007, 06:27 PM
But a word of warning. Woe be to the Democrat that tries to paint Republicans as racist Nazis or the Republican that tries to paint women or blacks negatively. It's all well and good in the anynonomous atmosphere of the internet to act like an ass, but do it in a public forum and the American people will crucify you.

Collectively, that is what I call the Double Edged Sword of The Internet.

You see, on the internet, you can act like an anonymous asshole because now one knows who you are. But when they know who you are, you are no longer anonymous, you are just an asshole.

(By no strange conincidence, check out just how many people have posted pics of themselves in the Off Topic thread relating to the same.)

Truth_and_Power
08-15-2007, 06:33 PM
(By no strange conincidence, check out just how many people have posted pics of themselves in the Off Topic thread relating to the same.)


We're just scared of Marley and his fists of steel.

micfranklin
08-15-2007, 06:43 PM
Argue this all you want, to be honest it won't start coming into play until March anyway.

Until then the Democrats will beat on each other, just as the Republicans will. After a winner is chosen in the primaries the attack ads will come out in full force.

But a word of warning. Woe be to the Democrat that tries to paint Republicans as racist Nazis or the Republican that tries to paint women or blacks negatively. It's all well and good in the anynonomous atmosphere of the internet to act like an ass, but do it in a public forum and the American people will crucify you.

...just a word to the wise, from Pennywise.:thumbsup:


It doesn't make much different to me because I already know who I'm not voting for come next November.

ViolaLee
08-15-2007, 06:47 PM
Me too mic....Obama.

Who are you voting for?

Deadshot
08-15-2007, 07:08 PM
First off, who's Marley? I see a lot of references to this individual but I am a newbie so somebody needs to clue me in.

Next, you should vote for the best candidate available. Right now, we don't know who that would be. So let's give the process a chance...

micfranklin
08-15-2007, 07:19 PM
Me too mic....Obama.

Who are you voting for?


Democrat-wise, either Obama or Kucinich.

Republican-wise, unknown.

Either way I'm not voting for the two biggest names in either party as they're both scumbags.

ViolaLee
08-15-2007, 07:36 PM
First off, who's Marley? I see a lot of references to this individual but I am a newbie so somebody needs to clue me in.

Next, you should vote for the best candidate available. Right now, we don't know who that would be. So let's give the process a chance...
He's a rightie who got banned because of his attacks and insults. He got banned from another board I know of too. Same reason.

Deadshot
08-15-2007, 08:15 PM
First off, who's Marley? I see a lot of references to this individual but I am a newbie so somebody needs to clue me in.

Next, you should vote for the best candidate available. Right now, we don't know who that would be. So let's give the process a chance...
He's a rightie who got banned because of his attacks and insults. He got banned from another board I know of too. Same reason.


Thanks for the info, I assumed as much but thought I'd better make sure.

As to the candidates, give'em a chance and let's see what each side puts forth.

exigent
08-15-2007, 08:19 PM
Marley had a terrific downward spiral, physically threatening everyone in sight, posting his address and invited people to his house to fight him. I know he was punching his keyboard at the time it was happening...good sh1t.

I still havent seen anything in this thread about what Obama's wife did that was so wrong, btw.

micfranklin
08-15-2007, 08:35 PM
He was probably one of those many, many trolls from Youtube.

Truth_and_Power
08-15-2007, 09:39 PM
Marley had a terrific downward spiral, physically threatening everyone in sight, posting his address and invited people to his house to fight him. I know he was punching his keyboard at the time it was happening...good sh1t.

I still havent seen anything in this thread about what Obama's wife did that was so wrong, btw.


Check the thread author.. then go to FP and count the # of splits he has there. Nuff said.