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Buck Laser
08-12-2007, 01:32 AM
http://www.rmchronicle.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1138

“Freedom is not a concept in which people can do anything they want, be anything they can be. Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do.”
lily
08-12-2007, 02:17 AM
Huh? :dizzy:
Drocket
08-12-2007, 03:25 AM
Orwell was a prophet.
PatrickHenry
08-12-2007, 04:38 AM
And Rudy wants to be that "authority..."

He's a piece of work, that guy.
ViolaLee
08-12-2007, 04:43 AM
Fear. The Republican platform.
preservanation
08-12-2007, 04:46 AM
Orwell was a prophet.

He sure envisioned a world where the libs hold sway over society.
I see his writings as more of a warning of what will happen if we succumb to total government control rather than actually prophetic.
This is a real threat.
People ought to reject socialism before it infests our process further.
Buck Laser
08-12-2007, 06:37 PM
Orwell was a prophet.

He sure envisioned a world where the libs hold sway over society.
I see his writings as more of a warning of what will happen if we succumb to total government control rather than actually prophetic.
This is a real threat.
People ought to reject socialism before it infests our process further.

In other words, you think resisting socialism is more important than real freedom? Figgers....
Labrocca
08-12-2007, 07:30 PM
People very often misunderstand Rudy. His background is NYC DA where he placed criminals in jail better than anyone else.

And Buck..which part of his statement do you actually disagree with?

Rudy simply believes in structure and authority. Without either our society is chaos. btw...I was rooting for Rudy till I heard his stance on Iraq. I don't want us another President that will keep us there.
NortheastCynic
08-13-2007, 06:51 PM
So freedom is submission to authority.

Wow.

I didn't need another reason to dislike Rudolph Giuliani, but I've found one.

-NC
Buck Laser
08-13-2007, 07:01 PM
People very often misunderstand Rudy. His background is NYC DA where he placed criminals in jail better than anyone else.

And Buck..which part of his statement do you actually disagree with?

Rudy simply believes in structure and authority. Without either our society is chaos. btw...I was rooting for Rudy till I heard his stance on Iraq. I don't want us another President that will keep us there.

All of it. I disagree with the statement in its entirety.
micfranklin
08-18-2007, 08:49 PM
Freedom and authority are not in the same league. Giuliani doesn't seem to get that.